Evolution V Creationism

shellspeare · 2005-04-11 17:57:30

Do you believe in Darwin's theory of evolution or do you believe that God created all forms of life simultaneously and that we did not evolve from lower life forms?

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Do you believe in Darwin's theory of evolution or do you believe that God created all forms of life simultaneously and that we did not evolve from lower life forms?

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#2 11-04-2005 07:04PM

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I belive in the Philosphy forum

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#3 11-04-2005 07:05PM

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1) this is hardly the place for such things,

2) but if you must know, i created all life, it was accident, and i'm still clearing up the mess. dinosaurs took fookin' billions of years to get rid of, but the human race seems like it will be a lot easier...

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#4 11-04-2005 08:13PM

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shellspeare wrote:

Do you believe in Darwin's theory of evolution or do you believe that God created all forms of life simultaneously and that we did not evolve from lower life forms?

darwins theory was flawed, but is still a little bit more convincing than some 'higher life form' that no one has ever seen, and have no proof of, suddenly decided to make a bunch of people on a planet inthe middle of nowhere.

what do you think?

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#5 11-04-2005 08:16PM

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I think that I'm making everything up in my head. Nothing really exists except my imagination.

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#6 11-04-2005 08:26PM

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shellspeare wrote:

Do you believe in Darwin's theory of evolution or do you believe that God created all forms of life simultaneously and that we did not evolve from lower life forms?

Exactly how do you define lower lifeform?

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#7 11-04-2005 08:39PM

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psi wrote:

Exactly how do you define lower lifeform?

anyone registered on boards after say, a year ago?

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#8 11-04-2005 08:43PM

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phew... safe

Darwin's theory helps understand and answer most of the questions but some god doing it all is just crazy talk.

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#10 11-04-2005 08:57PM

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/brain implodes

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#11 11-04-2005 09:14PM

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www.truthforyouth.com has it all........;)

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#12 11-04-2005 09:47PM

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what a topic shellspeare!!

i no longer believe in "god the creator of all", the church have changed what they have said about how the world was created so many times that I have gotten to the stage where I no longer believe them

I believe some what in Darwin, but if we all evolved from single cell lifeforms where did that first life form come from?

THe whole debate of where do we come from really bugs me, what does everybody else think? What are your views?

just thinkin is this a bit to serious for after hours!!

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#13 11-04-2005 09:50PM

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Check this out..

http://www.answersingenesis.org/museum/walkthrough/

Apprantly Adam created the T-Rex. Using DNA from a fly I guess. Its all in room 19.

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#14 11-04-2005 09:58PM

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well I want to believe in creationism but I'm afraid the evidence for evolution is compelling...

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#15 11-04-2005 10:06PM

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unfortunately as scientific theories go, evolution is probably one of the weakest, and one that is easiest to pick holes with.

Creationism however isn't a theory, merely blind belief. But religious fanatics worldwide have found in evolution a weakness in the scientific armor and try their best to use it to descredit the scientific method as a whole because it impedes their implementation of blind ignorance upon themselves and everyone else.

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God created all forms of life simultaneously with pre-arranged memories about 5 minutes ago.

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shellspeare wrote:

Do you believe in Darwin's theory of evolution...?

[ponceyvoice]Well, actually the question is a little restricting...[/ponceyvoice] there are theories of evolution other than Darwin's. But yes I believe it anyway. Those who insist it's 'a theory not a fact' are clutching at straws. Yes, evolution is a theory. And Genesis is a fairy tale.

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Gordon wrote:

I think that I'm making everything up in my head. Nothing really exists except my imagination.

Which beggars the question why would invent White Wash Man? Do you hate yourself?

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Einstein said 'Reality is the belief held by the imagination.' This still doesn't excuse people who honestly believe in creationism.

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#21 11-04-2005 11:30PM

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Well i'd say that the theory of evolution is probably the closest thing we have to a plausible explanation at the moment. However I believe that our knowledge is still limited and I'm open to newer or even modified older, more concrete theories that don't leave strings dangling around the place.

So, the short answer to your question is..... I don't know, i'm still in the process of making up my mind, and that may take a while.

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#23 12-04-2005 12:06AM

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Memnoch wrote:

I'm open to newer or even modified older, more concrete theories that don't leave strings dangling around the place.

So you probably wouldn't want anything to do with this

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#24 12-04-2005 12:12AM

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Space Whale, tbh

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#25 12-04-2005 12:33AM

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Hobbes wrote:

Check this out..

http://www.answersingenesis.org/museum/walkthrough/

Apprantly Adam created the T-Rex. Using DNA from a fly I guess. Its all in room 19.

Heres a really good debate on a talk radio show, with the head of a creationalist church who build that museum and some well informed call in guests

http://www.infidelguy.com/demo/infidelguy.com_hovind_vs_ig.mp3

(save target as...)

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#26 12-04-2005 12:48AM

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Jr.Shabadu wrote:

Space Whale, tbh

Even creationism brings up less bile than that sort of theory... it is bollix - but has antiquity in its favour! Space whale :rolleyes: ... aw go ahead and stir it! makes thread more interesting...

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#27 12-04-2005 12:48AM

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Well, actually the question is a little restricting... there are theories of evolution other than Darwin's

Agreed. It's evolution for me. I've yet to see a credible alternative. Also... the creationist theory doesn't exactly gel with the undisputable existence of dinosaurs.

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#28 12-04-2005 01:19AM

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Look at the bigger picture people, what the hell created the universe we live in now(i know about the 'big bang theory') but what was here b4. its mind boggling to even fathom, you cant just say there was nothing? evoultion and creationism could easily both be true.

what 'IF' a higher being did make the universe, the earth simply found itself in the right place with the right exact conditions necessary to start off with that single cell we all evolved from.

i'd like to believe if you could get to the end of 'space' and travel faster then its expanding thereby leaving space, you could meet up with who/whatever is responsible (or you could and probably would just enter nothingness and die horribly)

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#29 12-04-2005 01:25AM

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#30 12-04-2005 01:30AM

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bravestarr082 wrote:

Look at the bigger picture people, what the hell created the universe we live in now(i know about the 'big bang theory') but what was here b4.

this is often the "theory" that most religious people use to defend creationism. The problem with this theory AND with creationism is that if you think at ALL logically then it's completely self defeating. Let me explain.

Assumption - Universe cannot create itself.
Therefore - Something must have created it.
This something is the "creator".

The PROBLEM with it is, that you are making a huge assumption based on nothing. And that is that, while the universe cannot create itself, the "creator" can. It's a self-defeating paradox.

Either something can exist from nothing, and if it can, then so can the universe, or nothing can exist from nothing, in which case neither can the creator.

So if god made the universe, then who made god?
and if god was "just there" then why can the universe not be so?

the real answer to all these questions, is WE DON'T KNOW, and to claim so otherwise is foolish. (but creationists tend to often do this, while most evolutionists will accept that while it's a good theory, it's still not concrete enough to be accepted as fact.)

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#31 12-04-2005 01:40AM

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Memnoch wrote:

So if god made the universe, then who made god?
and if god was "just there" then why can the universe not be so?

the real answer to all these questions, is WE DON'T KNOW, and to claim so otherwise is foolish. (but creationists tend to often do this, while most evolutionists will accept that while it's a good theory, it's still not concrete enough to be accepted as fact.)

i agree.

for all we know we, our entire universe could be in a petri dish in someone's hands. we only see size, physics from our point of view.

scientists have suggested that parallel universes could exist (via blackholes for instance) with different laws of physics, worlds that if existed we could never visit as even a miniscule change in our laws of physics would vapourise us!

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