embarrassing muppets on Paddy's Day

I think it's just sad that people take sport and turn it into more than it is. The jersey a person wears should not have any influence on what people think of him.... Can't say I've ever seen someone in a [insert soccer team here] jersey and thought "what a wanker".

nlgbbbblth wrote:

Not everyone - just many of them as I said above

Many of them in the world? or many of them in your study? or many of them who you know? or many of them you heard from your uncles sisters aunt?

What has any of this got to do with people singing "Fields of Athenry"?

billy the squid wrote:

here you go
http://news.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/spl/hi/programmes/panorama/transcripts/scotlandssecretshame.txt

above is the transcript of this programme
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/panorama/4284023.stm[/QUOTE]

Some nice quotes

"DEVINE: I remember visibly the Irish Ambassador to the UK attending its first old firm match. He thought he was at an international game because on the one side of the park the Irish tricolour, the Republic of Ireland; on the other side, the red hand of Ulster. It was almost, if you like, a metaphor for the fact that Irish problems had been transferred onto Scottish soil."


"SHAUN McGRANAGHAN
Paramedic
People who don’t understand it, down South it's probably like if you had an all black team and an all white team, and the all black team were always supported by blacks, and all white team were always supported by whites and that's the only way you could really explain it, where there was that type of violence out in the street, that's what it's like up here, so it's not colour of skin, it's the religion."



It's amazing that Celtic fans in this country will try to deny what is actually the truth..

pwd wrote:

Most patriotic British men wouldn't consider the idea because the Union Jack has become a symbol of Facism. .

you learn something everyday :rolleyes:


QUOTE=Slutmonkey57b]while football fans are scumbags .[/QUOTE]

and now I learn I am a scumbag too

QUOTE=pwd]Celtic jersey = scumbag. No question..[/QUOTE]

pwd = prone to sweeping generalisations without knowing what he's on about, no question.

Slutmonkey57b wrote:

Whaddya know, celtic supporter goes rabid at the suggestion that a lot of celtic supporters might be scumbags, or ira supporters, or scumbags.

If asking for some examples is going rabid in your book, well done

I don't think it's a difficult stretch to assume that football fans are scumbags.

substitute people for football fans

They have riot police at football matches for a reason you know.

Just goes to show hw many football matches you have been to. Are you talking all football games? some football games? all Celtic games?

They don't have riot police on horses at cricket matches. I suggest the reason for that is that cricket fans are mostly quiet, middle-aged people with no interest in violence, while football fans are scumbags who shout abuse and attack people for no good reason. You don't hear rival sets of cricket fans shouting "you're going home in a ****ing ambulance" at each other.

So you have been to more criket matches than football matches... interesting

For proof, see tv footage of any major football match from about 1975 on anywhere in europe.

That hardly constitutes proof for your wild generalisations

pwd wrote:

google for celtic football and ira (17,800 results)

http://www.google.ie/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=%2Bceltic+%2Bira+%2Bfootball&meta=

google for celtic soccer ira (6,780 results)

http://www.google.ie/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=%2Bceltic+%2Bira+%2Bsoccer&meta=

bizarre huh? How did I end up thinking that shouting IRA chants and slogans,calling people "british *****", and participating in sectarian violence makes people bigoted scumbags?
There was a march commemorating that scumbag Bobby Sands in Dublin a few years ago. About half of these scumbags publicly displaying their support for the IRA were wearing Celtic jerseys, as I recall.
Why would you want to support a football club whise fans shout IRA slogans and chants at their matches and whcih is so strongly associated with sectarianism unless you sympathised with these ideals? You would not. In the same way a British man would not wear a uniion jack vest because he would not want to be considered a Fascist. For this reason, Celtic jersey = scumbag. No question.
You go to the next Celtic match wearing a Rangers jersey and singing "rule britannia and God save the queen. Stand in the Celtic supporters section. See what happens you.

Again, I don't see any evidence to back up your assertion that Celtic fans are sectarian. You are just using other google. Celtic fans sometimes sing about Irish independence and the 1916 Rising... Is this sectarian and scummy? Celtic fans sometimes sing the Irish national anthem... Is this sectarian and scummy?

Go to the next Man United game wearing a Leeds jersey and sing the Munich song - lets see what happens. Only an idiot would contemplate doing such a thing.

Slutmonkey57b wrote:

I don't think it's a difficult stretch to assume that football fans are scumbags. They have riot police at football matches for a reason you know. They don't have riot police on horses at cricket matches. I suggest the reason for that is that cricket fans are mostly quiet, middle-aged people with no interest in violence, while football fans are scumbags who shout abuse and attack people for no good reason. You don't hear rival sets of cricket fans shouting "you're going home in a ****ing ambulance" at each other.

Whoa there! You're making a huge and unfounded leap of logic there to suggest that people who like football are scumbags. I (and many of my friends) like football, and we sure aren't scumbags by any stretch of the imagination. If you have 90,000 people at the Nou Camp, then of course you will need police, you won't get 90,000 at a cricket match now will you? Plus, cricket is (IMO) not as passionate or fast paced as football, where the tides of fortune can change in a minute. Seriously, even you must admit that saying all football fans are scumbags is totally wrong????

Likewise, whereas I can understand that Celtic have gotten a lot of chav supporters in Dublin (and I've mentioned this earlier), it is also unfair to brand all Celtic fans... think about it, it's just dumb to say that everyone is xxxxx because they like xxxxxx. Generalisations... Taken to the logical conclusion, if you stretch that rationale out far enough, you can say everyone in Dublin is a scumbag.. and that just isn't true now, is it?

Also, calling Bobby Sands a scumbag is a little out of order. The times were different then pwd, and the man died on hunger strike for his political stance on this country.. which whether right or wrong in your book, should earn him respect.

Die.