What's the story with culchies with D4 accents???

karlh · 07-03-2005 12:27PM

handjobs + lunchtime = chips.

the only maths i ever learned. dogs and rats were childsplay!

bohsboy · 07-03-2005 12:31PM

:mad: I'm surprised no one has mentioned that horrendous Donegal "ooooh aye" accent that they all try to push on us dubs. "Ooooh aye, I'm jus a wee lassie from the Glenties".....that is the most exaggerated accent I've ever heard and I should know!

Went out with a girl who spoke with a normal nice accent but anytime we met someone new or had to order something in a shop/pub..."Ooooh tae pints of Bud hai? Aye ..aye..thanks!" :mad: :mad:

Well I suppose it worked on me. I'm marrying her in July! Aye!

AARRRGH · 07-03-2005 12:33PM

You know the way they say the Irish are begrudgers?

Well, guess what. A D4 accent represents wealth.

I think the problem is not the "sound" of the accent or any **** like that, but plain and simple begrudgery.

Most of the posts in this thread are pathetic. You people really need to take a good look at yourselves.

super_furry · 07-03-2005 12:35PM

dublindude wrote:

Well, guess what. A D4 accent represents wealth.

Yeah roish!

Lafortezza · 07-03-2005 12:41PM

super_furry wrote:

A dog? A dog? Proper little Lord Snotty weren't you? We had to dive headlong into ditches in search of rats in the vain hope that we could squeeze a drop or two out of them.

Rats eh? rats! That's plural that is, you had a *choice* of vermin to select a prime source of urine. I was stuck with the next door neighbours dog that had fleas, diarrhea, and couldn't pee more than a couple of drops a minute, that's why I had to get up so early to get my urine.

Plus the dog died one morning, and I *still* got a weeks worth of urine out of it! Youngsters these days, don't know how lucky ye are.

This thread is officially hi-jacked

karlh · 07-03-2005 12:44PM

dublindude wrote:

Most of the posts in this thread are pathetic. You people really need to take a good look at yourselves.

can I presume you're quite partial to a latté and an aul jaunt in Anabels yerself!?

RobertFoster · 07-03-2005 12:53PM

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AARRRGH · 07-03-2005 12:53PM

karlhoff wrote:

can I presume you're quite partial to a latté and an aul jaunt in Anabels yerself!?

Not at all. I'm not into that **** whatsoever.

If your problem is people who are tossers (doesn't matter where you are from, of course I agree there are lots of tossers everywhere, "D4" included) than no problem. But that is not what this thread is about. It is about people who come from rich familes and you all hating that fact.

It's jealousy, begrudgery etc. Very pathetic.

I gaurantee if "D4 people" did not speak the way they did, you'd find something else to bitch about.

Really, you just sound like a bunch of petty fools.

Keyzer · 07-03-2005 01:03PM

dublindude wrote:

You know the way they say the Irish are begrudgers?

Well, guess what. A D4 accent represents wealth.

I think the problem is not the "sound" of the accent or any **** like that, but plain and simple begrudgery.

You've got it wrong...
If its not put on then you can't really fault it.
But if it is put on, thats what annoys people. And its the exact same as seeing lads from any "wealthy" area going on like scumbags, acting the hard man. Girl I worked with years ago had the most annoying "roish" accent I ever heard, I presumed she was from Blackrock or somewhere like that, turned out she was from Donaghmede (nothing wrong with Donaghmede) and her house was like something out of steptoe and son.
Why did she have a "Roish" accent? Because she went to Trinity, and to conform with Trinity Society she adopted an appropriate accent, because she definitely didn't grow up speaking like that.
I suppose people who "adopt" these accents are fearful of other peoples perceptions in relation to accents, are afraid to say where they are actually from (she used to tell people she was from malahide) for fear of being labelled a knacker etc. This applies to country folk too, who don't want Dubs to view them as thick boggers, so they adopt an appropriate accent too....
Anyway, anyone who develops an accent in order to be accepted by whatever part of society they aspire to be a part of is a sad git in my book....

Santa Claus · 07-03-2005 01:05PM

An even more worrying trend is the youth of Killiney & Dalkey developing skangers accents to be considered "hard".

karlh · 07-03-2005 01:12PM

dublindude wrote:

I gaurantee if "D4 people" did not speak the way they did, you'd find something else to bitch about.

Really, you just sound like a bunch of petty fools.

eh, the title of the thread is ' What's the story with culchies with D4 accents!!???', we're saying that the accent is getting on our collective t1ts....at least I am.

i love rich people, especially the one's that did more than inherit their wealth.

i agree begrudgery is a major problem here and i think this accents thing is an offshoot of it. since we now all have a few bob (or that's the theory), the people who used to be the only one's who could afford a few pairs of shoes and a hot dinner have to up the ante to be recognised as financially endowed.

personally i think anyone who wants us to know they are rich or even anyone who wants to pretend to be rich should just wear top hats and tails like the good 'ol days and not mix with us commoners at all....

AARRRGH · 07-03-2005 01:12PM

Keyzer wrote:

You've got it wrong...
If its not put on then you can't really fault it.
But if it is put on, thats what annoys people. And its the exact same as seeing lads from any "wealthy" area going on like scumbags, acting the hard man. Girl I worked with years ago had the most annoying "roish" accent I ever heard, I presumed she was from Blackrock or somewhere like that, turned out she was from Donaghmede (nothing wrong with Donaghmede) and her house was like something out of steptoe and son.
Why did she have a "Roish" accent? Because she went to Trinity, and to conform with Trinity Society she adopted an appropriate accent, because she definitely didn't grow up speaking like that.
I suppose people who "adopt" these accents are fearful of other peoples perceptions in relation to accents, are afraid to say where they are actually from (she used to tell people she was from malahide) for fear of being labelled a knacker etc. This applies to country folk too, who don't want Dubs to view them as thick boggers, so they adopt an appropriate accent too....
Anyway, anyone who develops an accent in order to be accepted by whatever part of society they aspire to be a part of is a sad git in my book....

OK, I agree there is something very sad about people changing their accents to fit in.

But I think the general consensus seems to be that people who talk like a rich boy is a tosser - and I disagree with this.

Most people cannot help their accent.

Sleepy · 07-03-2005 01:17PM

The problem is that the accent is completely false. The only people growing up speaking in that horrid, nasal whine are the spoilt rotten little ****ers whose parents invented the accent. The D4 accent is not the Dortspeak of the "D4" accent. The "D4" accent we refer to was originally a badge of arrogance worn by typically country people who made it and bought big houses in Dublin. Now it's just a badge of a spoiled brat.

AARRRGH · 07-03-2005 01:20PM

Sleepy wrote:

The problem is that the accent is completely false. The only people growing up speaking in that horrid, nasal whine are the spoilt rotten little ****ers whose parents invented the accent. The D4 accent is not the Dortspeak of the "D4" accent. The "D4" accent we refer to was originally a badge of arrogance worn by typically country people who made it and bought big houses in Dublin. Now it's just a badge of a spoiled brat.

Do you know how ignorant that sounds?

May I ask, what is your accent?

As I have said already, I am "very well spoken" although I do not say "roish" or whatever. Although you would probably think I do.

I have spoken like this MY ENTIRE LIFE. It is called being well spoken.

Example: a foreign person comes to Ireland. They ALWAYS say, "The Irish accent is hard to understand, but you know what? I can understand you perfectly."

What is wrong with that?

A.S.H. · 07-03-2005 01:23PM

I also have been accused of having a "D4" accent, I went to a "good" school. I mainly get asked by people if I'm english or else if I'm american I believe this to be from the amount of T.V. I watch, I have a dislike of those who came from well off families and put on the "knacker" accent.

karlh · 07-03-2005 01:32PM

your school got beaten by a poor school at chess.

HA!.

Raytown Rocks · 07-03-2005 01:32PM

I live in Dublin 4 ( or D4 as people like to call it). I have lived there all my life. I don't have a "D4" accent, however I am in my opinion well spoken.
What you have to realise is that "D4" is a big place. Not everyone in "D4" lives in Blackrock, DonnyBrook, Sandymount, and not everyone in "D4" are snobs or rich.
I agree with Dublindude, there is nothing wrong with being well spoken.
As a "D4" resident though I must agree that the put on accent is a pain in the ass.
( not from a stuck up point of view) but from the fact it sounds so false.
Basically what im saying is that its not fair to generalise all people form "D4" .

Keyzer · 07-03-2005 01:32PM

More worrying is that more and more Irish people sounding like upper class English prats. Its like the "Roish" accent is now too common, so lets all speak like Jeeves and Harry, tallyho chaps.

Good point made by Dubdude, theres nothing wrong in being well spoken, nothing at all, but the thread isn't about being well spoken, its about country people developing upper class Dublin accents, and my explanation of why they do is in my last post...

A.S.H. · 07-03-2005 01:36PM

karlhoff wrote:

your school got beaten by a poor school at chess.

HA!.

Yes and as such we did our good deed fro the week. Allowing the commoners to think that they can win, thus giveing them a good self belief

I would also like to add that we lost a lot in rugby as well.

StupidLikeAFox · 07-03-2005 01:43PM

I dont understand why people get so annoyed about it. Sure the accent might be annoying, put on blah blah etc etc but who cares? They might be intelligent down to earth people, they might be goddam saint not that your never gonna know anyway. So live with it. Nobodys asking you to marry them. If its causing you that much trouble buy earphones or something

yossarin · 07-03-2005 02:01PM

ColHol wrote:

Nobodys asking you to marry them.

to be fair, bohsboy could have been asked by his roish-talkin-future-wife, we don't know.

AARRRGH · 07-03-2005 02:30PM

ColHol wrote:

Nobodys asking you to marry them.

While I agree with your points, I find that statement hilarious!

BlitzKrieg · 07-03-2005 02:40PM

*sniffle*

I love you guys...

cournioni · 07-03-2005 02:52PM

The D4 accent is a very very annoying and an accent that is mainly put on to make the person feel superior to those with a skanger accent.

It is the exact same in the North. If you've watched "Give my head some peace", you'll notice that Da and Uncle Andy have two totally different accents even though they are supposed to live in more or less the same area. This is a skit of Paddys and Brits in the north, the paddys are supposed to have a "bogger" accent and the brits a "posh" accent.

It is all to do with trying to belong to a crowd of people, that is the way it is and the way it always will be. I am happy to say that I do not exaggerate any type of accent, I have used the accent/voice I have grown up with and I am proud of that. Funny thing is, anywhere I go no one seems to know where I am from although they always have a guess!

simu · 07-03-2005 02:59PM

julep wrote:

you're one of them, aren't you!

I find it extremely pretentious when someone from outside of D4 chanes their accent. Why bother? are you ashamed of where you come from? So what if you have a limerick/cork/galway accent. no-one is going to judge you differently.

I don't know what sort of accent I have but it's unlikely it's a D4 one as I've never had contact with D4 people. People don't always change their accent on purpose - it happens unbeknownst when you pick things up from TV and people around you.

Also, you can't criticise a Cork person for not having a "Cork accent". There are many different accents in the city including some really annoying sing-song ones. People assume that all Cork people must have a sing-song accent but many don't.

Sleepy · 07-03-2005 03:01PM

dublindude wrote:

Do you know how ignorant that sounds?

May I ask, what is your accent?

A pretty peculiar mix of Wexford, Bray and Galway. It's my own though, it's not something affected.

As I have said already, I am "very well spoken" although I do not say "roish" or whatever. Although you would probably think I do.

If you're not a dort speaker, why do you seem to take offence to people slagging off idiots that put on affected accents?

I have spoken like this MY ENTIRE LIFE. It is called being well spoken.

Example: a foreign person comes to Ireland. They ALWAYS say, "The Irish accent is hard to understand, but you know what? I can understand you perfectly."

What is wrong with that?

There's nothing wrong with speaking your normal accent. Affecting accents in order to appear "upper class", however, is a pathetic trait in any human being afaic.

Piste · 07-03-2005 03:40PM

D wrote:

Most "D4" people are 2nd or 3rd generation culchies. Their accent just comes from going to local schools.

Excelent point, my Mum is from Cork and my Dad's from westmeath but I speak with a fairly neutral accent tinged with dortspeak. Why? Because I go to a school in Donnybrook where 90% of the students and teachers are from Donnybrook/Sandymount/Blackrock/Foxrock. Up until when Im started secondary school I spoke without an accent- as did nearly everyone in my clas in primary school. My sister still speaks neutrally because she is only in primary school. I sometimes get criticism for speaking 'Like a poshie' but the way we speak is strongly influenced by the people around us so I don't try and speak the way I do, it has just grown on me.

tintinr35 · 07-03-2005 03:47PM

joejoem wrote:

Go back to the country you inbred retard.

Smort Very Smort indeed.. u are the retard :cool:

Ardent · 07-03-2005 04:06PM

My former landlady's accent was reminiscent of that of Garret Fitzergerald - a nasally "posh" English type accent. Funny how a Dubliner could adopt that kind of accent (she didn't live in England at any stage AFAIK).

Keyzer · 07-03-2005 04:06PM

Gummybearz!!! wrote:

Excelent point, my Mum is from Cork and my Dad's from westmeath but I speak with a fairly neutral accent tinged with dortspeak. Why? Because I go to a school in Donnybrook where 90% of the students and teachers are from Donnybrook/Sandymount/Blackrock/Foxrock. Up until when Im started secondary school I spoke without an accent- as did nearly everyone in my clas in primary school. My sister still speaks neutrally because she is only in primary school. I sometimes get criticism for speaking 'Like a poshie' but the way we speak is strongly influenced by the people around us so I don't try and speak the way I do, it has just grown on me.

There ye go, my point is proven....
It didn't grow on you though, conciously or subconciously you realised that you needed to change your accent in order to fit in with your classmates.
Will you change you accent again if you end up in college down the country?
All you Doirty types should read this...

What's the story with culchies with D4 accents???

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