Mixed couples

Those that have stayed in Ireland are not so open to or familiar with people from other countries. They have not had exposure to other societies so their realm of experience is what they know of Ireland. For most of their lives foreign residents and cultures were not a part of that.

rom1 wrote:

Do any of you have similar experiences?

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mais c'est pas tes oignons

Evilution wrote:

Yanno what makes me cringe? Going into a chinese resturaunt after a night out and hearing drunken arseholes doing the whole "ching chong chinaman" routine. Kinda makes me ashamed to be irish, that does.

I'm in a mixed relationship, and we experiece this all the time, however if the irish who made these comments visited the far east thier perceptions would change. Too many irish think we are the centre of the universe.

BTW the Chinese take the mik of Ireland too:-

1. Thinking we are better than them
2. Think out transport and infrastructure is the best in the world !!!
3. That we think they all live in straw huts and wear straw hats !!!

How wrong we are !!!! Lets live together and forget race !!!!!!

:-)

I'll try keep this short... On the basis of Irish - Chinese relations: I saw this program about an American family who had to move to somewhere in Mongolia. They lived with a bunch of nomads for 6 weeks. It really opened their eyes at the cultural differences. They were a farming people but it would have been similar to living conditions of 1930s rural ireland, no electricity, no local shops, not tv etc. Think it was on sky travel or something if anyone saw it can they say it. So much to say about what ppl said.

Shortcomings of Irish Girls - It depends I suppose on peoples different experiences. Its not really fair to stereotype Irish women but I agree anyways.

Stereotyping irish girls is like shooting fish in a barrell, its too easy. They really are becoming products of a western society - increased corpulence and obesity, greater fixation with money, more vain, higher maintenance, increasingly temperamental etc.
I'm not saying that irish lads are any better; I'm a guy who likes girls so I tend to notice this stuff about girls more. That said, some lads I know 'could' fall into some of the above categories.
At the end of the day, the girls I like are generally what you would call 'one in a thousand' girls - maybe the lads will know what I mean. When we lads talk about girls like this, we generally refer to them as 'cool' and 'sound' - two of the greatest compliments a girl can get from a lad, believe it or not.

I know what you mean by one in a thousdand girls :P
Definitly we have become more "western" no doubt. Myself and my friend(he's going out with an Italian girl)were discussing this at work the other day: Irish girls are harder to get on with. It's just, I think 1, product of a society (in Cork and mostly outside of Dublin) that offers for the most part single sex schooling.2, We are less relaxed towards the European idea of sex.
for example when Cork first introduced the idea of a sex shop there was so much contravesy about it.3, Probably the influence of the church on our parents growing up. It's only recently that educated ppl(more ppl in college these days compared to our parents) that we have really questioned their beliefs. 4,The influx of foreigners. We live in a nation of fear, the media is completely negative. This negativity stems to our xenophobia.

Lets face it, if an Irish girl was out of the country and she ran into an Irish guy, she'd be friendly with him. Why -> probably comort zone. You can talk about home or share personal experiences. Anyone who has ever been to Dubriovnik in Crioatia would see that.(Irish pub) But at home she acts stuck up because she thinks hes drunk or hes going to make a move on her.
BTW lads are just as bad as women...

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Originally Posted by elvis2002
Lads at college who play the field tell me though that women like to be treated like ****e, if you act hard with them they respect you more

Yeah, but you have to be able to (a) approach them without getting your head bitten off, and (b) get them away from their sychophantic friends, to be able to do this. I think what they really mean is 'get them drunk and slag them off'.

So true, one night my friend (male) was being a drunk dickhead to these two relatively attractive girls. They had every right to lay into him tbh and I would have, but I was trying to calm them down. I was talking to one and the other strated and i calmed her down too. Then my friend left and I was apologising for his behaviour and this third girl like a battleaxe outta hell this erupted at me what you saying to my friend, that's my friend. My jaw dropped and I stood there in shock, I just had to walk. Couldn't do anything else. TBH shes probably used to it but still it's a bit ignorant.

Often when guys approach me they ask where I'm from and when I say Dublin act like I'm a liar and tell me I'm not Irish. I know they aren't trying to be mean/racist but it's really hurtful when people make you feel like you don't belong in your own country. It's just ignorance, assuming Irish people should all have pasty skin and ginger hair.

Just cause it walks like a shovel and talks like a shovel doesn't mean its a shovel. To be fair ppl should not say sorry I thought you were foreign. FFS Phil Lynott, Samantha Mumba (god knows where Colin Farrel is from) are all famous Irish (non Irish looking) stars. PPl can just be so ignorant sometimes. Wvwn if you were foreign isn't easier to talk to you? Where you from? What you do here? You like it? etc... I don't know sometimes.

A lot of people are not educated about these things and believe a lot of the misinformation out there about the immigrants. Education is the key to overcoming this and more integration

I disagree. More integration is a must but you can have all the education in the owrld and be ignornant as ****. I feel myself to be openminded and am well travelled. If you're not used to an idea then you won't take to it. When I was in America the amount of African-Americans was a new concept for me. I hadn't seen that amount of interracial interaction and I was (given very young at the time) but also taken back by it. It was a culture shock. If you're not used to it in society the only way to deal with it is in colloquial life. Our schools should help by interacting the kids at a young age with ethnic classes but isn't our education system at the moment the one responsible for the Irish ignornance now or merely are we ignornant ppl?

Yanno what makes me cringe? Going into a chinese resturaunt after a night out and hearing drunken arseholes doing the whole "ching chong chinaman" routine. Kinda makes me ashamed to be irish, that does.

Pure ignorance

Mixed racial couples will never be accepted by the nation with the current concept of thinking. It's a shame that so many people suffer so much hardships in this day and age. I mean for people to be racially abused for walking down the street/in a club etc is just plain bollocks... Sorry for this but I don't adminsiter these racial jeers nor am I resposible for others actions. hopefully this attitude will change. I've experienced it with a friend of mine, and I'm sad @calling myself Irish with these ppl being associated with my culture. Where is our culture?

I guess I'm "lucky" that even though I'm not Irish, I don't look foreign, and pretty much sound Irish at this point (to most people). Nearly everyone is sound when they find out where I'm from, but Western Europe isn't really counted as "foreign" to a lot of people, if I were from Eastern Europe or Asia it'd be a whole different story I imagine, I've seen some seriously ignorant displays of racism since I've been over, but it's usually from the type of people that you'd expect that from (scumbags), most people are fine.

I know a lot of lads who subscribe to the "foreign girls are better" newsletter (and as one, I can see where they're coming from ).

This tread highlights the issue very clearly !! Irish are far to clannish and negative towards thier own sure how can we be positive to outsiders !!

Evilution wrote:

It'd be great for more and more irish people to visit the countries of origin of the people they jeer and ridicule on a daily basis. They have the money to do so! Only problem is, most irish peoples' idea of a 'foreign' holiday is to the Costa del sol or whatever, where you have more chance of meeting a neighbour from back home than a person from a different country.

Agreed, I've travelled most of the far east and was pleasantly suprised, nothing better than the Korean and Japanese Techno Marts for all the latest gadgets !!!! (dream........) and the "welcoming" atmospher to foreigners. Not judgemental but welcoming !!


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