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A Merry F**king Christmas to Ryanair.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,687 ✭✭✭✭A Dub in Glasgo


    Leaving at 1pm was way too late for a last check-in of 2.05pm. Ryanair have its policy of closing the gate 40 minutes prior to take off. They very rarely move from this policy, blaming traffic holdups in Dublin City Centre is not going to cut it and it is not really unexpected.

    They could have dealt with it better but ultimately, it was your own fault you missed that flight!

    Ryanair have been the reason I have flown back to Dublin from Prestwick much much more since they flew here as I remember what it was like flying with Aer Lingus as the only operator to Glasgow. It was bloody expensive and I probably travel 3 times as much to Dublin than when AL had the monopoly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,687 ✭✭✭✭A Dub in Glasgo


    fluffer wrote:
    I just hope that people who get done over by different companies actually learn from their mistakes and refrain from giving them business in future. A few more quid will get you a flight with another airline, from a better airport, served by better public transport, and not cost you extortionate baggage fees.

    Dublin to Prestwick Airport as against Dublin to Glasgow Airport

    Prestwick Airport has a walkway from the Airport to a train station and the train takes 45 minutes into the centre of Glasgow with half price travel. Glasgow airport does not have a train service.

    Dublin Airport is the same for both airlines, Glasgow Aiport is not better than Prestick Airport. Glasgow Airport does not have better public transport links although it is closer to Glasgow and with hand luggague, there is no difference in baggage fees.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,213 ✭✭✭✭therecklessone


    Everyone else seems to have something to say, so I'll join in.

    Big Chief, they could have been nicer to you given the day that was in it, but rules are rules. Let you through, and next week its somebody who has to make a flight for a funeral/wedding/interview. Or "I'm meeting somebody the other side, and they're driving for three hours to collect me, and I have no way to contact them".

    Leaving the City at 1pm for a 2.05pm check-in is lethal. You have no idea what you will encounter along the way. What if there'd been a major accident at the Port Tunnel works and the traffic was at a stand still? What if you'd spent 30 minutes waiting on a bus because the one you'd expected to get broke down around the corner? Todays lesson is...plan to arrive at the airport at least 1.5 hours before the flight departs, 2 hours if possible. Give yourself time to recover from a mishap.

    You reckoned you'd make it to the gate in 35 minutes? I spent 40 minutes queing to get through security in Stansted during the summer, what if you'd encountered a similar delay? More importantly, the check in staff have no way to trust that you will go straight to the gate, rather than an amble through duty free or a quick pint or three. They let you through and you're a late arrival at the gate? Possible slot missed, and they will get a severe dressing down. Would you risk losing your job to help a complete stranger on Xmas Eve?

    Finally, if people were unhappy with Ryanair they wouldn't fly with them. The airline has prospered for the last ten years, because it gives the vast majority of its customers exactly what they want. I've had bags lost by British Midland, flights cancelled with SAS, and I've been snarled at by Aer Lingus staff. The worst I've got from Ryanair? A couple of minutes late, and thats after 30 or so flights with them. That said, if things do go wrong I don't expect any compassion, but then I doubt I get that for my €40 flight.

    Glad you got out with EI by the way, hope you enjoyed the Xmas.

    /me crosses fingers that 11.30 to Stansted departs on time tomorrow, else I ain't seeing Spurs vs Palace... ;)


  • Posts: 6,645 ✭✭✭ Jolene Spicy Schoolroom


    Like others have said, it's your own fault. You know right well what the traffic in Dublin is like, you should have left earlier. All airlines recommend that you arrive at least 2 hours in advance of the flight time for a reason. I know it's too late now, but I would never give myself an hour to get to the airport in check in. I just flew to Madrid last week and gave myself 2 hours before the check in even opened to get the bus into town and the Aircoach out to the airport. I had an hour to wait before the check-in even opened which was boring and a waste of time, but I didn't even want to risk arriving late. I went to check-in 25 mins before the time and there was already a queue. There was a problem with the bag weighing and it took me over an hour and a half to check in. I ended up only having 30 mins to spare, to eat my lunch and whatever, before I had to be at the boarding gate.

    If you want to be the smart arse who turns up last to check in, avoiding the queues and going straight to the boarding gate, you run the risk of arriving late and being refused. If you can't take the consequences, don't take the risk. I can't believe you had the cheek to blame Ryanair for this when it was clearly your own fault. Why should they let you potentially hold up all the people who made the effort to arrive on time?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,518 ✭✭✭✭dudara


    i thought over an hour was ample time for getting to the air port from leeson street air coach since i stay in the city centre

    sorry that this happened to you, but that was your mistake right there. Even if the road was clear from the city centre all the way to the airport, I'd still give that trip 2 hours minimum.

    Ryanair are very clear about their check-times, it can suck sometimes, especially like what happened to you, getting caught by only a few minutes, but thems the rules.


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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,264 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dub13


    I live very close to the Airport (Baldoyle) and I would give at LEAST an hour to get there....most times I give two hours,and again my house is only a couple of miles away.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,471 ✭✭✭elexes


    i usually try and plan to be at the checkin desk about 30 mins befor it plans to open . i cant rember a flight i was on where i was not at the desk after the member of the flight crew .

    tbh tho u should of know bing x-mass the roads would of been jammered with ppl trying to get home its the same every year and u did leave it a bit late to leave .

    but for the sake of 5 mins i cant see why the girl couldnt just let u on ? should of looked to speek to her manager or simular unless the q's for security were 30 mins long .

    at liest u rebooked with a propper airline .


  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 7,486 ✭✭✭Red Alert


    it's just that their staff seem so rude all the time. we were always told at work to be at least courteous to people - seems like ryanair forgot that part of the training.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,984 ✭✭✭✭Lump


    I know someone that used work for ryanair.... They are put under soooo much pressure by management. They get bollocked if they dont call some one Sir or madame, even if they are talking to a friend that is flying with ryanair. Also they have to fill out massive amounts of paper work if they slip. In the end of the day, it's more important to keep the plane running on time for 150 people that are on time then to make it run late for one wanker that arrives late.

    I can see how check in people get stressed some times, they get a lot of grief from people who don't read the rules of carraige before packing... they then arrive with 12 bags, each of which weights near on 2 tonne, and they bitch and moan when they get charged for being over weight.

    John


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 519 ✭✭✭cujimmy


    Leaving at 1pm was way too late for a last check-in of 2.05pm. Ryanair have its policy of closing the gate 40 minutes prior to take off. They very rarely move from this policy, blaming traffic holdups in Dublin City Centre is not going to cut it and it is not really unexpected.

    They could have dealt with it better but ultimately, it was your own fault you missed that flight!

    Ryanair have been the reason I have flown back to Dublin from Prestwick much much more since they flew here as I remember what it was like flying with Aer Lingus as the only operator to Glasgow. It was bloody expensive and I probably travel 3 times as much to Dublin than when AL had the monopoly.

    Me too. When I first started to travel Glasgow to Dublin in 1990 it cost me £79(stg) return booking 4 weeks in advance. now is what £15 -£20 each way


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 579 ✭✭✭Da_cOmRaDe_MiKe


    i would have got to the desk and basically said can i speak to your supervisor please.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,984 ✭✭✭✭Lump


    i would have got to the desk and basically said can i speak to your supervisor please.

    They would have said the same thing
    Be on time Numb Nuts


    John


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,673 ✭✭✭Slutmonkey57b


    1: You booked with Ryanair, this was very stupid, you deserve whatever you get.
    2: You assumed there'd be no traffic on CHRISTMAS EVE!! Stupid, stupid, stupid. You deserve whatever you get.
    3: You booked with Ryanair, you deserve whatever you get.

    Never ever complain about Ryanair's service, I have no sympathy for you. Learn your lesson and book through a different airline.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 409 ✭✭janullrich


    A few months ago I had a crap experience with Easyjet where they delayed my flight two and a half hours from Berlin so I missed the connecting flight with Ryanair in Luton. Bottom line is that I will never fly with either of these robbers again regardless of cost (or try to). Easyjet and Ryanair are just the same. Robbers with useful service.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,643 ✭✭✭✭okidoki987


    I would never take a flight on Christmas Eve.
    Too many things can go wrong.

    In the UK there is "Airport" on TV, why doesn't RTE or TV3 do a series "IRISH AIRPORT" or something and then the likes of Ryanair will get the real publicity they deserve for their lack of customer service.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,311 ✭✭✭✭Bard


    Dub13 wrote:
    I live very close to the Airport (Baldoyle) and I would give at LEAST an hour to get there....most times I give two hours,and again my house is only a couple of miles away.
    I live in Dundalk and it takes me about an hour for me to drive to Dublin Airport. Although I'm not the most organised person in the world I'd still allow 2 hours just to get there and make sure I'm there in plenty of time (shortly before the checkin desk opens). Frankly you do have nobody to blame but yourself - it's a bitch that you missed your flight but it's your own fault. You were late. I'd be pissed off if it happened to me, sure - but rules is rules.

    I rarely fly Ryanair though. No frills my arse. To paraphrase Billy Connolly.. "Today I'll have multiple frills! Give me frills and plenty of them my dear! I'll tell you when to stop."


  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 7,486 ✭✭✭Red Alert


    ok i'm sure i get this - one minute they're being berated for not calling someone sir/madam then the next they're being rude! seems like a screwed up outfit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,924 ✭✭✭✭BuffyBot


    the likes of Ryanair will get the real publicity they deserve for their lack of customer service

    If you look at Airline, you'll see that easyJet actually come out looking a lot better than the passengers 99% of the time...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,238 ✭✭✭Gilgamesh


    hwy is everybody talking about 'Service' in relation to Ryanair. the only service they offer is to get you from point A to B, if YOU FOLLOW THEIR GUIDELINES!!
    don't think that they are making a forutne by allegidly ripping people off.
    if a person is 20 minutes late getting onto the plane, they loose their take off window and it can cost them a fortune for therefore interrupting flight traffic on an airport.
    Other companies have this issue too, but they deal with it differently.
    my advise is therefore only. BE there WAY ON TIME, then you won't have that problem.
    if you call a decent Taxi company they recommend you to leave yourself AT LEAST 2 hours to get there


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 32,286 Mod ✭✭✭✭The_Conductor


    I was flying to Lisbon via Paris CDG with Cityjet on the day before Christmas eve, in order to be with family. I bought the ticket online 6 months in advance. The flight leaving Dublin was delayed by over an hour- meaning I had precisely 6 minutes to Departure (not check-in) from Paris to Lisbon. They held the flight in Paris for me..... On arrival at Lisbon my luggage was not there (given the fact that I had bypassed security in Paris and raced to the plane, I wasn't too surprised). I was assured by the lady at the AirFrance desk in Lisbon airport that a staff member would personally deliver my luggage to me the following day and that I could expect it between 2PM and 3PM (despite the fact that it was a goodly distance over 50km, and there is a policy of only delivering luggage to the nearest bus station over 50km). I was given the name of the staff member, and a contact number for them to confirm the details. At precisely 2PM the following day I was called on my mobile for more precise directions- and my luggage was hand delivered 20 minutes later.

    On my return flight yesterday it was delayed leaving Lisbon, and then further delayed because of headwinds. Once again our passage through security in Paris was expedited, and the flight caught.

    Book online, in plenty of time, and you will most likely find offers from the main carriers not too far off those you might expect from the budget carriers, but with a vastly better service.

    I cannot commend Cityjet/AirFrance highly enough.

    Essentially- its a case of you get what you pay for. If you have unrealistic expectations- you will, likely, be dissappointed. Shop around- we're no longer stuck with a monopoly situation, and if you're willing to pay a few pence extra for peace of mind- the options are there.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,213 ✭✭✭✭therecklessone


    Gilgamesh wrote:
    don't think that they are making a forutne by allegidly ripping people off.
    if a person is 20 minutes late getting onto the plane, they loose their take off window and it can cost them a fortune for therefore interrupting flight traffic on an airport.

    Airlines aren't fined by airports for being delayed. At most, a delay from a Ryanair flight leaving Dublin would most likely affect another Ryanair flight that might have to wait for the stand to be vacated. In extreme cases, in heavy traffic periods the delayed flight might take a slot from another aircraft, but any flight missing an allocated CTOT is put to the back of the queue anyway, so that would be minimal.

    The impact on Ryanair (and other low fares airlines) would be to cause a knock-on delay for the airline all day, as they rely on fast turnaround times to enable the maximum usage of their available aircraft. A delay in departure to Glasgow means a probable delay in departure for the GLA-DUB leg, and delays for subsequent flights that the aircraft has been assigned to.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,213 ✭✭✭✭therecklessone


    smccarrick wrote:

    I cannot commend Cityjet/AirFrance highly enough.

    I've a similar love for SAS, despute themredirecting me through Copenhagen to Stockholm a few years ago when they cancelled my direct flight.

    I found myself with the choice of a 40 minute stopover in Copenhagen or 5 hours on my way home from Stockholm another time, naturally I gambled on the 40 minutes. Got onto the aircraft in Stockholm to be told we had a 25 minute delay due to high winds at CPH. I resigned myself to the 5 hour wait.

    But hold on a second says SAS. Flight landed with 10 minutes to spare, we taxied up to our stand, right beside another SAS flight. I depart my a/c, walk down the airbridge and turn left to find the other a/c is the Dublin flight! Show my boarding card and hop on (assigned seating is a godsend), and as I buckle up I see my bags being taken from the first flight and placed in the hold of the second. Home on time, bags and all. Nice.

    And their automatic check-in is a breeze to use.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 7,534 ✭✭✭Blisterman


    Ryanair suck, they only give you 15kg of baggage (which isn't even a full suitcase) and charge you €7 for each additional kilo.
    Alos you can't book 2 flights on the same plane to double your allowance. Air Lingus do thsi too. Now I need to find people who want to fly to London for free with no baggage.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,687 ✭✭✭✭A Dub in Glasgo


    I struggle to fill 15kg when travelling. What are you bringing? Why can't you just pay the extra allowance or fly with AL?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,438 ✭✭✭TwoShedsJackson


    You pay peanuts, you get monkeys. I gladly pay an extra tenner or whatever on Aer Lingus for less ****ty (although still fairly crap) service, an assigned seat so I don't have to scrum through bloody pensioners and women with about twenty bags to try and get a seat, plus the airport they fly to is usually within a few miles of the city I'm going too.

    Having said that, why don't you ring the Herald and tell them your story - they like bashing O'Leary so you'll get your name in the papers at least.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 32,286 Mod ✭✭✭✭The_Conductor


    Blisterman wrote:
    Ryanair suck, they only give you 15kg of baggage (which isn't even a full suitcase) and charge you €7 for each additional kilo. .

    Eeek! My empty suitcase weighs 16kg.......


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,984 ✭✭✭✭Lump


    Do you people actually fly regularly... Aerlingus No longer offers snacks on short haul flights... you have to pay for them... like you have to do with Ryanair. Also it's free seating on Aelingus flights... Like Ryanair... Also on aerlingus you have to walk out to the plane... Guess what, Like Ryanair... they are generally 50 euro more expensive per return flight to the uk. Also... Ryanair allow you 10Kg baggage on the flight, once it's in a bag that fits into the over head lockers.

    I fly a lot... I hate Aerlingus, that is all.


    John


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,706 ✭✭✭Blackjack


    Also it's free seating on Aelingus flights...
    No it's not, it's assigned.
    Also on aerlingus you have to walk out to the plane...
    from Pier A in Dublin you have to walk out to every Airline. It really depends on the Airport.

    Aer Lingus are going down the Budget route, but do have a bit more flexibility than Ryanair. They do also have Lounge facilities and preferrential seating, something you will never get from Ryanair. Less Punctual than Ryanair, but can be cheaper to fly, particularly at weekends depending on the route.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,984 ✭✭✭✭Lump


    Well the last flight to the uk I was on with aerlingus it was free seating... Anyway, who cares if its assigned seating, you're always going to get a seat on the plane... god love you if you have to actually look for a free one. I don't really care, I have issues with aerlingus, I think they are rude and unhelpful, and as you pointed out they are less punctual... it does actually make more of a difference to me to be on time since I'm normally meeting a train etc on the other end of my journey.

    I prefere Ryanair... I can't afford Aerlingus.... I fly ryanair.

    I dont care what other people do really.

    john


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,213 ✭✭✭✭therecklessone


    Lump wrote:
    Well the last flight to the uk I was on with aerlingus it was free seating... Anyway, who cares if its assigned seating, you're always going to get a seat on the plane... god love you if you have to actually look for a free one.

    And some of us prefer the more controlled and patient method of assigned seating as opposed to the general melee for Ryanair flights. In addition, I hate sitting in the middle seat (I'll only do it if travelling with a companion so that we're sitting together).
    Lump wrote:
    I prefere Ryanair... I can't afford Aerlingus.... I fly ryanair.

    Personally I weigh the cost versus the hassle associated with getting to my final destination from the airport I fly into to, then choose accordingly. I prefer British Midland to London, but Heathrow is no use to me if I'm travelling to a match at White Hart Lane, Stansted is. Hence Ryanair get my business.
    Lump wrote:
    I dont care what other people do really.

    john

    But want other people to care what you think?


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