Is the Lotto rigged do you think?

daveirl · 14-12-2004 08:29PM

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is_that_so · 14-12-2004 10:15PM

scargill wrote:

only if u believe that the coin has memory!!!

if so, how do u know that this coin hasn't been flipped thousands of times by a previous owner and that tails is ahead by several hundred tosses....and that heads is only now catching up !!

on a 'fair' coin each throw is a 50/50 chance! regardless of previous results

All the coin flipping reminds me of statistics questions in Leaving Cert Maths - all about biased coins

monument · 14-12-2004 10:31PM

is_that_so wrote:

Just for the conspiracy theorists !!

http://observer.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,6903,1372005,00.html

Although a day or two late... I was just about to post that!...

In short pick 38 if you're doing the UK Lotto.

CuLT · 15-12-2004 01:13AM

Clearly rigged; I haven't won yet.

Sarn · 15-12-2004 11:38AM

As the balls are all stacked in order and dropped in the same pattern every draw I wonder would it be possilbe for a pattern to be created that would favour certain numbers based on the order in which they drop? i.e. could an ordered balls initial trajectory influence it's chances of being drawn from an apparently random draw.

Looking through the draw statistics there are weeks of draws were similar numbers come up regularly, all of a sudden these patterns change. It would be interesting to know if they change the balls used in the draw as it could possibly suggest bias with certain balls.

Kingsize · 15-12-2004 11:46AM

the only way the lotto is "rigged" is the vast amouNts of cash paid to those who work for it & some of the "deserving" benefactors.
The statistics speak for themselves you have a better chance of pulling off a bankraid & getting away scott free with a million than you do of winning.
incedentally i heard a rumour that ronan collins gets a grand everytime he rattles his balls on TV,nice work...
In reality the lottery is a voluntary tax for people who cant do basic maths.

RainyDay · 15-12-2004 11:53PM

Sarn wrote:

It would be interesting to know if they change the balls used in the draw as it could possibly suggest bias with certain balls.

They have a number of different sets of balls/machines in the studio and they pick one set at random under scrutiny of the independent adjudicator ('Evening Terence, Evening Ronan') before the draw.

Hobbes · 16-12-2004 12:09AM

How do you know Terence and Ronan aren't on the take?

RainyDay · 16-12-2004 12:16AM

Hobbes wrote:

How do you know Terence and Ronan aren't on the take?

Terence isn't a one-man band. He has a team of bean-counters from KPMG with him. Are they all on the take? Plus the cameramen & the studio staff?

PHB · 16-12-2004 12:36AM

I remember my friends and I tried to work out some sort of math to maximise your potential to win big in a lottery, and we decided that

even though all combinations have an equal chance coming up
all combinations do not have an equal chance of being picked
thus the only way to maximise your lottery winning potential is to pick 6 numbers that you're as sure as you can be won't be picked by anyone else.

Everytually we decided on 22,23,24,25,26,28

The reason we didn't pick 27 is because there is a chance that somebody else had this idea, so we are trying to counter them

Flukey · 16-12-2004 12:43AM

Well it didn't work tonight, because there was no winner. Neither of the Plus draws were won either, but 27 did come up in the Plus 2 draw. I didn't win anything tonight myself. They are paying €100 for 4 numbers on Saturday night. That would be nice!

Lump · 16-12-2004 02:26AM

It's odd... I got dragged into being a Independant Witness for the english lotto tonight. I can't see how you'd rig it.... and from that I don't know how you'd rig the irish Lotto.

John

eirebhoy · 16-12-2004 01:11PM

eirebhoy wrote:

BTW, the doubles I'll be putting on are:
40 - 18: €5
40 - 16: €5
18 - 16: €5

16 came out on Saturday and 40 came out last night, how close to €250.

Ah well, just goes to show that I was right, it was only a matter of time before the number 40 came out.

humanji · 16-12-2004 01:42PM

I don't know if it's the same for the Irish Lotto, but I heard in the states, they have three draws for most of their lotteries and they only show whichever draw has the smallest payout. Apparently this is the reason for the 15mins between the last accepted tickets in shops and the actual time of the draw. Of coarse this could just be a load of conspiracy BS!

billy the squid · 16-12-2004 02:44PM

http://www.limerickpost.ie/dailynews.elive?id=5866&category=Daily-Thu

it would seem that it was a quickpick line that won the lotto on saturday

RainyDay · 17-12-2004 08:48AM

jomanji wrote:

I don't know if it's the same for the Irish Lotto, but I heard in the states, they have three draws for most of their lotteries and they only show whichever draw has the smallest payout. Apparently this is the reason for the 15mins between the last accepted tickets in shops and the actual time of the draw. Of coarse this could just be a load of conspiracy BS!

Do you really think that it would be possible to keep this secret, given the number of people that would have to be involved in the conspiracy from the Lotto & RTE etc? If this were the case, you'd have 'hidden camera' footage of the 3 draws being sold to the Sunday Indo within a month.

monument · 17-12-2004 09:06PM

Your lack of imagination and an open mind is scarier then most of the ideas that come from conspiracy nuts.

Note to An Post - don’t put "every thing's ok because it's 'Lotto & RTE'" on charge of security. Please!

Flukey · 23-12-2004 01:15PM

I had 4 numbers on the Lotto last night. All prizes were doubled, so I've won €86!

amp · 23-12-2004 01:38PM

Kingsize wrote:

In reality the lottery is a voluntary tax for people who cant do basic maths.

Quoted for truth.

Superman · 25-12-2004 02:49AM

Kingsize wrote:

In reality the lottery is a voluntary tax for people who cant do basic maths.

well it could be that your just a tight bastard and never fancy a fling?

oooh i'm gonna get a bannin for this!
But i said could so I'm not callin you anything... not just yet

The_B_Man · 25-12-2004 03:23AM

no i dont think its rigged, u idiot.

Healio · 25-12-2004 03:28AM

It quite possibly may be rigged but it is in a good way, they make it a no winner jackpot if tey sell hardly any tickets, and try and roll it over a couple of times, and at the end of the day they donate a big amount to various charitys. so think of it as maybe getting a run for your money when donating to charity.

The_B_Man · 25-12-2004 03:39AM

no it not rigged. they donate a designated percentage to charity. y do u tinkj thay have them fags from KPMG each week!!! its not rigged. stop tryin tp pretend theres a conspiracy. just accept it. its exactly wat it sez on the tin.

Is the Lotto rigged do you think?

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