Why does nobody say anything?

Doc · 29-11-2004 08:11PM

Move to London and you'll soon see that Dublin is an incredibly polite city in comparison.

eggshapedfred · 29-11-2004 08:21PM

Do they not realise that if they move back, there will be more room on the bus and more people might be able to get home a little earlier

or people going into a shop. do they not realise the benefit if they let people coming out of the shop before barging straight in?

We rang the bell when our stop came, bus driver kept going.

if fairness, you should see your stop is coming up, gather your belongings, ring the bell and move to the front of the bus, all before the stop flys by. the reason drivers don't pull in everytime someone rings a bell is cos sometimes people abuse the system and just ring it all the time. if you were standing next to the driver, having rung the bell, ready to get off, he would have pulled in at your stop.

meepmeep · 29-11-2004 08:28PM

boo4842 wrote:

The height of Irish ignorance is most obvious to me if you look at your average burger king/ mcDonalds. Every table has trays of food on them. I'd say about 90% of Irish people for some unexplained reason, think they are too good to clear their own table.

Yeah I agree with that. I got some looks off this family in Burger King the other day when I was cleaning up the table I had been eating at. They were waiting for it because the place was packed, but in fairness they could have waited patiently for another 30 seconds.......

Also, there was a guy who threw (actually threw!) his burger at one of the workers because there was lettuce in it. Now I was behind him in the queue and he didn't say he didn't want lettuce, so what was his problem. There was no need for that at all. :mad:

dahamsta · 29-11-2004 08:43PM

It was only a matter of time before McDonalds came up. Watch the thread descend into anarchy now, it's like Godwin's Law for Boards. (I usually clean my table myself, but tbh I dislike people that whine about it more than the people that don't clear their tables. Neah, neah, neah. Like, what-ever.)

adam

Caesar_Bojangle · 29-11-2004 08:46PM

DOC wrote:

Move to London and you'll soon see that Dublin is an incredibly polite city in comparison.

I've seen some terrible abuse directed at Asians & Africans about town. It’s sick really. Sometimes if I'm standing in a queue the person behind the counter serves me first, rather than the non-white Irish person who is clearly ahead of me, and I have to remind them of this. The only person I'd ever consider skipping is someone in a man u jersey.

Dave · 29-11-2004 10:54PM

I few years back I lost my wallet in Limerick City with my drivers licence student card, everything. Three days later it came through the post with nothing missing. Which was nice.

D!ve^Bomb! · 29-11-2004 11:10PM

that must have been a GOOD day!!

Tiriel · 29-11-2004 11:22PM

yeah my sister lost her bag in a club in Cork.. phone wallet credit cards etc etc inside it..

some sound person found it and handed it in intact!!! there are still nice people in the world

and I'd just like to add.. that if you do lose something in a club.. always ask if it has been handed in.. cos I worked in a club and the amount of phones, watches, wallets and id's that were handed in and never reclaimed was ridiculous!

ixoy · 29-11-2004 11:22PM

I was in a bar the other day and the guy in front of me, after getting his drink, just turned off and walked away without a thank you. The clearly exasparated barman actually called after him with a "hey!" He told me afterwards that he was sick of ignorant bastards never being polite.

OTOH, civility isn't truly dead in Dublin. Today people immediately offered an old man a seat on the DART and I've often seen people calling after someone who left something behind. I like to think it's just we notice the ignorant tossers more.

Piste · 29-11-2004 11:26PM

I left my wallet on a Dublin Bus last weekend, My mum rang us Dublin Bus and got it back for me quite quickly and with nothing missing.

Spalk0 · 30-11-2004 09:56AM

woosaysdan wrote:

i work in a pub and every night only one or two people say thanks or please its really annoying

Tell me about it! :rolleyes:

Allthough some of them are too pissed to slur out the words 'please' or 'thank you!'

Chalk · 30-11-2004 10:20AM

was in a supermarket the other day
woman ahead of me in the que was ignorant as fvck
demanding everything be done
wouldnt pay for bags
forgot something in the shop
disappeared for 5 minutes
girl couldnt re-open the till for the next customer cos of the way the tills work
waited
then she came back
no apologies
no thanks for waitrng etc
eventually she finished and left
as i walked out behind her i noticed she had parked in two , yes two, disabled spaces
some people
posh auld ones in there big jeeps

sprinkles · 30-11-2004 12:17PM

Chalk wrote:

was in a supermarket the other day
woman ahead of me in the que was ignorant as fvck
demanding everything be done
wouldnt pay for bags
forgot something in the shop
disappeared for 5 minutes
girl couldnt re-open the till for the next customer cos of the way the tills work
waited
then she came back
no apologies
no thanks for waitrng etc
eventually she finished and left
as i walked out behind her i noticed she had parked in two , yes two, disabled spaces
some people
posh auld ones in there big jeeps

Are you saying we should rid the world of ignorant posh auld ones?

I'm game!

therecklessone · 30-11-2004 12:19PM

Only Human wrote:

The man in his 40's at least. and a young boy on his way home from school who was no more than 12 years old offered her a seat. Unbelievable

Still, nice to see someone's been teaching their kid a few manners.

Caesar_Bojangle wrote:

I've seen some terrible abuse directed at Asians & Africans about town. It’s sick really. Sometimes if I'm standing in a queue the person behind the counter serves me first, rather than the non-white Irish person who is clearly ahead of me, and I have to remind them of this.

Was queuing in a shop a while back, there was an African man being served ahead of me then his mate appears with more stuff and throws that in with the first guy's shopping. I thought it was a bit cheeky, but wasn'tin a hurry and didn't raise a stink. Anyway, I'd say we've all done it at some stage.

Guy behind me starts muttering...

Idiot: FFS, have they no queues in their country, why don't they f*ck off back home?
Me: Was that for my benefit? Cos if it was you can shut right up if you think I'm gonna be your audience.
Idiot: I'm not looking for an audience pal, just saying how ignorant they are
Me: You'd know all about ignorance pal...

My real hate is when you hold a door open in a busy shop and about ten people all walk out without any of them taking the door off you. Yeah right, I'm your f*cking doorman...

Funnily enough I got strange looks in Stockholm when I held the door open for folks, nobody seems to do it up north.

SoupyNorman · 30-11-2004 02:21PM

My real hate is when you hold a door open in a busy shop and about ten people all walk out without any of them taking the door off you. Yeah right, I'm your f*cking doorman...

After the second person walks through just let the door go, you're worse for standing there.

ive worked in many a bar, the worst for rudeness being a 4star hotel in galway. The abuse the barstaff took off customers was unatural, the customers were mainly ordinary schmos from dublin on a 3 or 4 night break they'd seen in the Indo or times now im a dub myself and i know how dubs act in dublin but when they came to the west country they seemed to take on a feeling of grandeur about themselves and think they were better then the country folk.
Of course it wasnt just the dubs, the "landed gentry" or slimline tonic crew as i like to call them used to antagonise the bar staff and try to get them to do something wrong so as they could complain.

The best method of dealing with these ppl is to smile, be extra nice and dont give them an inch, and when the ridiculous demands start just get the duty manager cause it aint in a barmans job description to entertain a$$holes

Lainey · 30-11-2004 02:31PM

one christmas i was leggin it out of credit union, where i was in beggin for an xmas loan, when i noticed a woman ahead of me pushing a roll of twenty pounds into her trousers.. she missed the flap on trousers and the roll of money fell to the ground.. i stared at it for few seconds then picked it up and ran after her.. i said 'excuse me, i think you dropped this'.. while i was waitin with my best honest smile for a pat on the head at least, the wagon snatched the money out of my hand with a grunt and walked off..

samo · 30-11-2004 03:26PM

the woman that did that on you giving her all that cash back is a thick wagon and what goes around comes around.

D!ve^Bomb! · 30-11-2004 03:32PM

Lainey wrote:

the wagon snatched the money out of my hand with a grunt and walked off..

after this.. how much did you regret not keeping the money?

She's a complete gobshíte anyway.. if i had a roll of money i wouldn't casua;;y stick it in my pocket.. i'd MAKE SURE it stayed in my pocket!!! i'd stick it up me hole if i could!!! :rolleyes:

irishbigfoot · 30-11-2004 05:59PM

Maybe I just ignore the ignorant people on the bus but anytime something has been dropped or forgotten somebody has said something.

Had to chase a fellow down the stairs on the bus once to give him his wallet back but he did say thanks. Also had to wake up a girl on the bus because I knew that her stop was coming up and if she missed it she would have a long walk---I did debate about that one since I didn't want to scare the bejaysus out of her---but she was really grateful.

As somebody here said- what goes around comes around.

Trojan · 30-11-2004 06:09PM

Chivalry is not dead, there are still some people who have learned good manners. Personally I believe in karma. I hate rudeness to the point where I've started speaking up in a polite but assertive way - there's no point in letting people away with continuous bad manners, it only reinforces their belief that it's acceptable behaviour.

As to the original question - group psychology is an interesting topic, read up on some of the basics. There have been a few tv shows demonstrating pop-psychology recently, particularly this subject.

Piste · 30-11-2004 07:14PM

I totally agree that what goesround comes round. About a week before I left my wallet on the bus my mum found some girls mobile and managed to track down the girl and give it back to her. A week later she was able to get my wallet back for me when I thiought it was gone for good.

Sleepy · 30-11-2004 08:51PM

I think anyone that displays bad manners/plain ignorance towards someone in the service industry should be made do the rest of that person's shift. It wouldn't be long before they learnt the importance of saying please or thank you!

JackKelly · 01-12-2004 12:02AM

i was on the bus last year, and as we were waiting at the lights, about 50 meters down the road to our left (we were pulling out), a person on a moped got literally run over by a big jeep. (Not just hit, this person could well have been killed-i never found out) Now, i dont know if it was just down to shock or people not seeing the incident or what, but i was the only one on the entire upper level to reach for my phone. The only other real responce was from a woman who merely yelped. Everyone seemed not to care. And just looked, as if it were another paper article.

On a complete tangent of "nobody saying anything". How annoying can it be, that when you are on the bus/luas/train with a friend, NOBODY else seems to speak, leaving your conversation upon everyone's ears. And they look like they aren't listening, but you know its impossible not to (as that sitution-when the roles are reversed-is just as annoying).The charms of public transport

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Davey Devil · 02-12-2004 05:01AM

I don't want to bag the people who work in the service industry too much as they do put up with so much shìt. However, in busy nightclubs I can be standing waiting for up to 20 mins for a drink while blonde girl after blonde girl gets served before me. It's getting to the stage where some nights they could be coming back for another drink by the time I get served.

I also blame the customers for this. They know I have been there longer than them when they squash in beside me and have no problems with getting served before me. Personally If i get served before someone else I know has been queuing longer, I'll point it out to the bar staff but nobody has ever returned the favour for me.

Slutmonkey57b · 02-12-2004 06:33AM

Because they hate you and they want you to die.

DaBreno · 02-12-2004 02:59PM

boo4842 wrote:

I remember seeing a show where an American comic, came here and worked in abrekebabra for a month and couldn't get over it. He start asking people why they don't clean up after themselves, and got responses like "Its not our feckin' job".

sounds like "The Des Bishop work experience."

There was a lot more from where that came from.

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar · 02-12-2004 03:07PM

actually des had been living in ireland for a while before he made that show.

irishbigfoot · 02-12-2004 03:34PM

Been in this country for 12 years and still get looks when I put my own rubbish in the bin. I'm from the States so could agree with a lot that Des Bishop says....good program but I don't think he is the best comic around.

Moriarty · 02-12-2004 05:21PM

Group theory is really intresting. Probably one of the most famous examples of it is the murder case in new york in the 70s(?). Somone was shot to death on their doorstep right on the road of a very busy residential area. No one called the police and the body was left there for ages before a passerby finally saw it. Cops went around later and over 50 people had directly seen the incident, but not one of them phoned. They all said that they presumed somone else would do it.

popinfresh · 02-12-2004 08:04PM

The other day when i was leaving a pub I held the door open for the girl behind me. She gave me a dirty look so I gave her a dirty look, let go of the door and turned around and walked on. ie: the door smacked her in the face.

The only way to do it

Why does nobody say anything?

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