Fedora Core 3

RE*AC*TOR · 09-11-2004 01:44PM #1

Fedora Core 3 is now available from Red Hat and at distinguished mirror sites near you, and is also available in the torrent. Fedora Core has expanded in this release to four binary ISO images and four source ISO images, and is available for both x86-64 and i386. Please file bugs via Bugzilla, Product Fedora Core, Version 3, so that they are noticed and appropriately classified. Discuss this release on fedora-list.

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so, any tried it yet... verdict? 4 CDs is starting to seem excessive.

Ste- · 09-11-2004 01:47PM

Debian is SEVEN!
But I'm not sure if you need all of the four cd's of Fedora.
Just do a simple install and install what you want off the web.

RE*AC*TOR · 09-11-2004 01:48PM

Debian is aiming for a different market altogether though. FC3 is more or less in the mandrake/suse/ubuntu frame (ie consumer desktop).

pickarooney · 09-11-2004 02:01PM

Mandrake's had 4 CDs for a long time (I think 10.1 official has 5). Suse comes on a few DVDs these days, though that might be a professional version.

Ste- · 09-11-2004 02:02PM

Good point, but the Mandrake Community is 5 or 6 cd's.
So having 4 install cd's is nothing new really.
Fedora is just a growing distrobution with more and more people using it, thus more call for more software and more languages for that software.

RE*AC*TOR · 09-11-2004 02:08PM

I think I'll shut up now

Fair point on mandrake, I suppose I mean I prefer a minimalist model - but it doesn't really make much of a difference

Anyone tried it?

Robbo · 09-11-2004 02:16PM

Ste- wrote:

Debian is SEVEN!
But I'm not sure if you need all of the four cd's of Fedora.
Just do a simple install and install what you want off the web.

TBH, I never found it necessary to use anything beyond the first 2 Debian CDs, so I started only keeping two. Then I got fed up of that and just have 2 of the netinstall CDs. One for stable and one for testing. Haul the rest of the stuff down off t'internet.

seanos · 09-11-2004 03:29PM

4th CD is rarely used [I have never performed install where needed it, and some of my installs have installed a fair variety of things].

pickarooney · 09-11-2004 04:16PM

Ever think of making a distro, SeanOS?

Fenster · 09-11-2004 07:58PM

*grumble* I tried downloading it overnight, but it wound up corrupted.

Khannie · 12-11-2004 12:17PM

Sorry for dragging this one back up, but has anyone tried Fedora Core 3 yet? I'm downloading it as I write (the DVD version and the 4 rpm iso's).

I want to use it for a HTPC that I'm going to build within the next few weeks.

<edit> I'm getting it from the esat.net ftp mirror. It's coming in at 52.9KBps. Just in case anyone else wanted to get it, it's nice and fast. </edit>

Fenster · 12-11-2004 01:00PM

I have. I grabbed it over Bittorrent and put it on my spare hard drive. Its pretty damm nice.

There's been a lot of changes under the hood, so to speak. Some things that weren't enabled by debault in FC2, such as DMA, support for 1gb and more memory and SE Linux, are now and it really makes a difference. The whole thing runs a whole lot faster as a result.

Gnome 2.8 and KDE 3.3 are nice as well as they're both big leaps above the other. Also, most of the attached programs are updated above their FC2.2 versions. Biggest changes I've seen so far are Firefox replacing Mozilla as the default browser (no bad thing) and the adddition of Thunderbird.

EDIT: Here is a screenie I took.

Khannie · 12-11-2004 02:49PM

Nice one. It looks good alright (nice backdrop btw).

Fenster · 12-11-2004 03:03PM

Its this picture, as I inevitably get about ten PMs asking.

Stky10 · 17-11-2004 07:33PM

Slightly off topic and all....

I'm thinking of doing the RHCT/RHCE in the next few months (2-3).
I use SuSE mostly, so I'm going to have to wipe a few machines and
install RH. Would Fedora Core 3 be suitable??. I know the exam is based
on RH Enterprise 3, so how close is FC3 to this, or would I be better
off using RedHat 9 instead.

Khannie · 23-11-2004 09:44AM

I've used RH9 and RHEL 3. They /seem/ the same to me. Also, both came out around the same time if memory serves. I'm pretty sure the kernel versions differ though. I think RH9 uses 2.4.1. Can't remember what RHEL3 uses, but FC3 uses the 2.6 kernel AFAIK. Not sure what's involved with the certification.

Can I ask where you're doing it? What's involved? A linky would be nice. Sounds like the kind of thing I could convince my boss to pay for

scion · 28-11-2004 02:04AM

Here's the link to the DVD ISO...

http://ftp.heanet.ie/mirrors/download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/3/i386/iso/FC3-i386-DVD.iso

Syth · 29-11-2004 06:38PM

I'm thinking of getting this, but first I must repartition my harddisk so I don't lose all my data. Oh and download it of course.

Ah college internet speeds.

eggshapedfred · 29-11-2004 07:38PM

seeing as some people have installed this (and as some are thinking of downloading it) I was wondering what people thought?

I have several problems with FC3:
1) it will only install / on a primary partition. this is rather annoying when you already have a couple of OSs on the hard drive already.
2) theres a truckload of services started by default, slowing startup to a crawl.
3) the kernel sources aren't supplied with the OS. you'd think with 4 cds they could at least include the kernel sources...

these coupled with the usual crippled multimedia functionality has meant that I'm in no way enthusiastic about installing FC3 on any more machines...

anybody else have similar experiences?

Khannie · 01-12-2004 01:31PM

Jesus. I'm a bit shocked by that. No kernel sources + Heaps of cr@p at startup =

pickarooney · 01-12-2004 03:47PM

Just another 38MB for the kernel source if you need it. Probably a pain if you buy the CDs and don't have broadband though.
Services are easy enough to switch off.
It sounds a bit unreasonable that the OS can only be installed on a primary partition though.

zepp · 01-12-2004 10:52PM

ya just went bang when installing Nvidia drivers . kernal no work no more. and no scource to recompile .so

reinstalling

grrrrrrrrr

Mixie · 01-12-2004 10:59PM

Debating installing FC3 at the moment, anyone here running the 64 bit version / familiar with the performance boost gained over 32bit systems?

It's a bit of a stupid question I suppose, but I'd rather install it on the 2600xp pc here than the 3200AMD 64 if there's only a small difference, since it'll never be my main OS.

(Windows = my crutch)

Khannie · 02-12-2004 05:49PM

This may be no indication, but my opteron box in work (running enterprise edition (i.e. 2.4 kernel)) runs like a DOG. If you do install the 64bit version....could you let me know how you get on? Could be a useful way for me to argue my way to a new OS

Mixie · 02-12-2004 07:15PM

Well it comes with a German version of Windows, so going to have to wipe it anyway. I'll download the FC3 64bit dvd iso tonight and give it a bash in the morning (assuming GLS bother delivering it :rolleyes: ) and let you know - tbh, I was just looking for an excuse

zekiel · 03-12-2004 12:08PM

Just finished downloading this..

debating though to install, I'm currently running core 2.

Has anyone encountered many issues.

zepp · 03-12-2004 12:35PM

plenty but most of my own doing

Mixie · 03-12-2004 12:50PM

zepp wrote:

plenty but most of my own doing

hehe sounds like me

I'll be installing it this evening I hopes, will let you know if there's any obvious problems.

Mixie · 03-12-2004 03:14PM

All installed, and running perfectly.

Khannie, I installed the 32 bit version on the 2600xp and whether it's just the CPU upgrade, or the 64bit arch I dunno, but the 3200 is noticeably faster.

Khannie · 06-12-2004 09:34AM

Nice one. Thanks Mixie. I'll start applying pressure now

Mixie · 06-12-2004 09:40AM

No problem - if you want me to mail you a copy of the DVD iso and save yourself a download, PM me.

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