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How many of you do drugs? - You should be all shot

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,598 ✭✭✭ferdi


    so if you dont do drugs you are a better person and you are more productive and therefore more usful to society?

    **** that.

    if you want to be a little drone bee thats fine, i've excepted that i dont have long on this rock and i'm going to have fun by ANY means possible, if you dont like it, go suck a ****.


  • Moderators, Regional North East Moderators Posts: 12,744 Mod ✭✭✭✭cournioni


    I've done the following drugs:

    Hash - Good at times, gives off a good happy buzz. But other times can make you paranoid.
    Weed - Smoked it at a house party, put me to sleep. Decent enough.
    Poppers - Sniffed it on the way to concerts etc. Good 30 second long high. Too much sniffing can give you a headache though.
    Speed - Had it at a house party. Put me crazy. I haven't done it since. It was a good buzz though. Not intending to do it again.

    I'm off all drugs at the moment other than the drink. I play football so I try to stay away from them as much as possible. I have absolutely no problem with anyone doing drugs. It's their choice after all, as long as they don't harm anyone along the way I have no problem with them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 790 ✭✭✭Redleslie2


    Maybe if we gave the rats some MDMA they'd just be a lot more friendly?

    toff.jpg

    Scientists observed that some rats on a strict diet of Château Latour Pauillac, Cohiba cigars and cancer treatment standard morphine developed improvements in their behaviour, sought to improve their appearance and affected manners normally associated with the less noxious of the aristocratic classes. Unfortunately, others tended to spend the duration of the experiment staggering about threatening each other, stealing sportswear, **** and sleeping in their own puke.

    The research continues.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,739 ✭✭✭kleefarr


    the_syco wrote:
    Why? Its better than alcohol
    Enough said. I wish I knew where I could get some.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,868 ✭✭✭jd


    Blub2k4 wrote:
    Here, here.
    I can't see anything here..

    I know he means "hear,hear"


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,263 ✭✭✭Caesar_Bojangle


    toff.jpg

    reminds me of the time my dog took 6 E tablets and I couldn't afford to take him to the vet, so I had to beat him to death with his toy dog bone to put him out of his misery.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,002 ✭✭✭bringitdown


    reminds me of the time my dog took 6 E tablets and I couldn't afford to take him to the vet, so I had to beat him to death with his toy dog bone to put him out of his misery.

    That happend to you too! Only with me it wasn't a dog it was a cat, and it wasn't mine and ii wasn't on E, I was, and it was that night I decided to become a prostitute (owing to my drug 'problem'), and I was nervous, I mistook the cat for a punter and bet it to death with my shoe and legged it, poor cat. All it was looking for was some loving.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 790 ✭✭✭Redleslie2


    reminds me of the time my dog took 6 E tablets and I couldn't afford to take him to the vet, so I had to beat him to death with his toy dog bone to put him out of his misery.
    I can see the Evening Herald headlines now Disco Dog Clubbed To Death Shocker

    Frenzied evil owner administered 120 beats per minute.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,372 ✭✭✭Kone


    I am MAN wrote:
    In relation to the comment about the media exageration, ketamine is actually a horse tranquiliser made into powder and whatever else they do to it.

    Great drug though :)

    That's not strictly true I am MAN,

    What Is Ketamine?

    Ketamine, or ketamine hydrochloride, is a non-barbiturate, rapid-acting disassociative anesthetic used on both animals and humans; it also has been used in human medicine for pediatric burn cases and dentistry, and in experimental psychotherapy.

    But yeah, it's a great drug! ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,909 ✭✭✭✭Wertz


    Kone wrote:
    That's not strictly true I am MAN,

    What Is Ketamine?

    Ketamine, or ketamine hydrochloride, is a non-barbiturate, rapid-acting disassociative anesthetic used on both animals and humans; it also has been used in human medicine for pediatric burn cases and dentistry, and in experimental psychotherapy.

    But yeah, it's a great drug! ;)
    Of all the drugs I've done and experiences I've had on them, my one "time" spent in a K-hole was the single most weird thing I can recall: that's coming from someone whos run the gamut of LSD, psilocybin mushies, speed and all the other crap.
    Meself and a busload of mates were sold K and told it was E: the sheer hilarity of 40-odd people stood in the middle of a club not fit to stand, let alone drink, dance or much else had to be seen to be believed.
    I've never really went looking for it again. Still recall it enough to know that it anaesthatises the parts most beers don't reach ;)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,880 ✭✭✭Canis Lupus


    Wertz wrote:
    Of all the drugs I've done and experiences I've had on them, my one "time" spent in a K-hole was the single most weird thing I can recall: that's coming from someone whos run the gamut of LSD, psilocybin mushies, speed and all the other crap.
    Meself and a busload of mates were sold K and told it was E: the sheer hilarity of 40-odd people stood in the middle of a club not fit to stand, let alone drink, dance or much else had to be seen to be believed.
    I've never really went looking for it again. Still recall it enough to know that it anaesthatises the parts most beers don't reach ;)


    a jaysus that brought a smile to my face :) im sitting in work and ppl are staring at me cos im still giggling


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 526 ✭✭✭dendenz


    So if you all have menial little lives and feel the need for drugs to "enjoy" your weekend fine by me. I have a point of view obviously that a lot of people do not share and I will stand by what I said.

    _1624187_bettspa150.jpg

    Have a look there, its all you yuppies with your attitude like you have that ruins society so much. Leeah Betts probably had the same opinion as most of you lot, she ended up paying for that with her life, maybe if it happened to one of your friends or family you might think twice.

    As for not believing the media hype of whats in ecstacy, I take it you all take the word of your dealers then? So you take the word of some <unt who will tell you some ****e is 100% ecstacy just so he can pawn it off to some poor <unt who should be halfway between the gutter and the sewer? You should all take a good long look at yourselves and see what your lacking in life, I have a very good friend of mine who got ruined by drugs, just make sure you lot dont too


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,880 ✭✭✭Canis Lupus


    shut up man... if thats a real photo then thats a shame but its likely no one forced that person to take drugs.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 526 ✭✭✭dendenz


    whats the fact she was forcet to take drugs or not go to do with my point Lupus, re read what I posted...SHE PROBABLY THOUGHT THE ONE TABLET WOULD NOT HURT HER


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,756 ✭✭✭I am MAN


    HAAHAHA den denz,

    its been proven that leah betts the son of a law man consumed too much water and died. You are digging yourself deeper and deeper.

    You media whore.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 526 ✭✭✭dendenz


    and that was as a result of taking..............

    god this is a vicious circle.........


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,756 ✭✭✭I am MAN


    As a result of her been foolish enough to consume excessive amounts of water, E does not make you drink water.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 274 ✭✭adjodlo


    dendenz wrote:
    whats the fact she was forcet to take drugs or not go to do with my point Lupus, re read what I posted...SHE PROBABLY THOUGHT THE ONE TABLET WOULD NOT HURT HER


    No no that wasn't her first e tablet. That's just what her friends tell the parents to cover their asses.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 526 ✭✭✭dendenz


    Ecstacy does affedt the oestrogen levels in women and one of the causes is water retention you ill educated boy...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,909 ✭✭✭✭Wertz


    dendenz wrote:
    So if you all have menial little lives and feel the need for drugs to "enjoy" your weekend fine by me. I have a point of view obviously that a lot of people do not share and I will stand by what I said.
    Yet you and many like you have the need for alcohol to "enjoy" your w/e, while sitting back in your high stool and criticising people who decide to alter their brain chemistry in different ways? Like I say, sheer hypocrisy: your choice. You're entitled to your point of view, but you're not entitled to enforce it on those who have a differing one than you, and you're certainly not entitled to shoot them...

    _1624187_bettspa150.jpg

    Have a look there, its all you yuppies with your attitude like you have that ruins society so much. Leeah Betts probably had the same opinion as most of you lot, she ended up paying for that with her life, maybe if it happened to one of your friends or family you might think twice.
    Leah Betts was the anti-drug poster girl of the tabloids, hell bent on scaremongering society into this misconception that drugs are this all encompassing evil affliction on the youth of the 90's.
    She had the misfortune to go out and do pills with her mates and took an adverse reaction: it could have happened to anyone, but it happened to her. I'm very sorry for her parents and friends loss. She could have died in a car accident, or caught meningitis, but no, she died from a reaction to a drug that at the time was the media's favourite topic. The fact that her father was a policeman only added to the fact that her death would be turned into the circus it was.
    Us "Yuppies" (boy haven't been called that before) won't stop doing E or any other drug simply because of this: how many people of Leah's age died that year as a result of alcohol, diet, environmental factors, accidents? but no, that doesn't make good sensationalist front page "news" on the comics that pass themselves off as newspapers.
    As for not believing the media hype of whats in ecstacy, I take it you all take the word of your dealers then? So you take the word of some <unt who will tell you some ****e is 100% ecstacy just so he can pawn it off to some poor <unt who should be halfway between the gutter and the sewer? You should all take a good long look at yourselves and see what your lacking in life, I have a very good friend of mine who got ruined by drugs, just make sure you lot dont too
    You have outlined in that paragraph the main arguments in favour of decriminalisation: do I trust some idiot on a street corner selling me anonymous white tablets? Not a chance, but what choice do I have? If I'm that worried I can go but an test kit online and test the pills. Even if it comes out as pure 100% MDMA there's still a chance I will die. But for f**k sake, there's a better chance I'll die every morning I get into my mates car and travel to work, there's a better chance I'll go out drinking some night and get murdered by some bunch of drunken f**ks who decided to kick the sh*te out me cos they felt like it at the time.

    I've been "ruined" by drugs in the past: most drug takers will tell you similar stories. But it's not the drugs that ruin you: it's the personality behind the drug taking: if you abuse them and let them control you, they WILL ruin you. But so will drink, cigarettes, et al.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 526 ✭✭✭dendenz


    /When it comes to alcahol we know one or two pints is not going to cause to retain water and kill us. The fact is with drugs you know the risks are higher of dying than getting into a car. A car is useful, ecstacy? erm alters you biochemistry and can cause untold damage . You dont know the long term affects of it.


    Adjodlo, thats pure bollocks and you know that, were you there that night? No , was I no... I am basing my argument on my opinion and the media.

    I suppose if the media were lying then did they also make up a story about 9/11 in order to make a couple of million. So your a conspriacy theorist now as well as a yuppie


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,554 ✭✭✭✭Sir Digby Chicken Caesar


    dendenz wrote:
    Ecstacy does affedt the oestrogen levels in women and one of the causes is water retention youill educated boy...

    rofl

    I dunno, you can't be serious. No one can be that far up their own arse.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,652 ✭✭✭impr0v


    dendenz wrote:
    Ecstacy does affedt the oestrogen levels in women and one of the causes is water retention you ill educated boy...

    You can't call somebody "ill educated" at the end of a sentence as badly constructed as the one above, you cretin.

    And learn to think for yourself before you try to lecture the masses on subjects about which you are clearly ignorant.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,554 ✭✭✭✭Sir Digby Chicken Caesar


    /When it comes to alcahol we know one or two pints is not going to cause to retain water and kill us. The fact is with drugs you know the risks are higher of dying than getting into a car. A car is useful, ecstacy? erm alters you biochemistry and can cause untold damage . You dont know the long term affects of it.

    um..
    did you read *any* of the links I posted into the last thread?

    seriously.. even one? how on earth can you expect to be taken seriously if you don't even make an effort to learn about what you're talking... about.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 362 ✭✭Dancing_Priest


    you know, if everyone on this thread put dentez on their ignore list this could be a very good discussion


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,002 ✭✭✭bringitdown


    god above, dendenz, more people die everyday from countless other tragedies with sweet FA to do with drugs. If drugs were legal would you have this problem? Seeing as you don't seem to be as vehement in your opposition to alcohol or smoking or aspirin or <insert arbitrary legal pastime / product that can accidently cause death in certain circumstances>?

    I know the risks I am taking when I smoke a joint or I drink a pint, thanks to the prevalance of material fed to me in secondary school. However it still stands that I am at more risk walking down the street than I am enjoying a joint (unless I am walking down the street at the time)

    Isn't a more mature approach to legalize such drugs (cannabis, ecstasy etc.) regulate them and tax them like cigarrettes and alcohol and continue with education so people can make a choice not have it made for them. We could then concentrate more resources on the drugs that really render lives useless - heroin for example.

    And before you say it I know the consequences of taking ecstasy took Leah Betts life, it is a tragedy but I refer you back to the start of my post, you can surround yourself in bubble wrap or you can go on and enjoy life on your own terms (just so long as you do your best not to hurt anyone).

    Am I just egging him on...?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 526 ✭✭✭dendenz


    Alright excuse me for the point I made on the ill educated bit,my fault
    .

    My opinion is based on what I have seen from people who are on these drugs.

    Mordeth I am reading your links mon ami dont worry...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,909 ✭✭✭✭Wertz


    dendenz wrote:
    Alright excuse me for the point I made on the ill educated bit,my fault
    .

    My opinion is based on what I have seen from people who are on these drugs.

    Mordeth I am reading your links mon ami dont worry...
    See, there's nothing wrong with approaching things with a slightly open mind: no-ones asking you to start doing cocaine 3 times a day, only to not form opinions wihtout being in posession of all the facts first.
    I agree that seeing some people on drugs when you're not can be an eyeopener to say the least: I've often stood in a club after a load of drink laughing at people gurning and throwing mad shapes on the dancefloor. But till you've walked in those shoes you have no comprehnesion of what's going on at their end...


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,554 ✭✭✭✭Sir Digby Chicken Caesar


    well then do you understand them?

    the bit where it says "ecstacy is a relatively safe drug"?
    the bit about sfa deaths from ecstacy even though MILLIONS upon MILLIONS of people have taken it many, many times?

    yes, ecstacy does reduce seratonin in the brain with repeated use and I believe they also found out that with repeat use it can have an effect on short term memory. There has been no evidence to suggest that it is a "killer drug" or a massive danger to anyone who takes it. If you want to say that it is a killer drug, provide links to back that claim up. You're talking bollox, and the only person who doesn't seem to realise that is yourself.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 526 ✭✭✭dendenz


    OK someone pointed out a couple of websites and I waded through them, one of them dancesafe.org caught my eye. The new kits that are out there wll give you an indication of how pure your tablet is. I for one think that's an excellent idea but reading through it it showed a table of tablets and some had caffeine and other assortments of ****e in them.

    However I also urge you lot to keep an open mind for if I dont know "all the facts" then surley you lot are'nt medical doctors? Thought not because I sure as hell am not. Science has not found much yet to prove it's side effects

    http://www.clubscene.ie/ecstasy.htm

    Now there is a very interesting site, look at the bottom where it mentions Safety.

    Found an interesting link on New Scientist (one of Science's gospel)http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns99993431

    The drug has been shown to kill people as they drink too much water...


    And just to say yes I enjoy a couple of pints but one pint is not going to kill me straight away


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