Priests 'in orgy' at seminary

Sarky · 13-07-2004 06:01PM

"Anything that has to do with homosexuality or pornography has no place at a seminary for priests,”

So homosexuality is as evil as child porn, then? Sparks will fly.

munkeehaven · 13-07-2004 06:14PM

staznik+narrow-mindedness+fear+homophobia=idiot

alleepally · 13-07-2004 08:52PM

Originally posted by leeroybrown
Probably best it wasn't. That would be spookily reminicant of the African missionary scandals.

I agree that there is an immensely/disturbingly high incidence of paedophillia among Catholic priests but I disagree that marriage/sex wouldn't alleviate the problem greatly. Priests having the opportunity of a normal family life would, in my view, make the church a far more natural/normal environment and remove a lot of the temptation to resort to child abuse. Yes, some child abusers will always sucumb to the temptation but many others given the correct environment might never even consider it.

In my view a life of enforced abstinence from both sex and the normal intimacy of a relationship is not a suitable situation for most people.

It sickens me that anybody would interfere with children, especially priests. I'm not generally in favour of the death penalty, but when it comes to anyone harming a child I would be swayed in favour of it.

Regarding the incidence of paedophilia in the Catholic Church, there doesn't appear to be any evidence that the Catholic church has a higher instance than any other church. This is perhaps a redundant point but as the comment was made above about an "immensely/disturbingly high incidence of paedophilia among Catholic priests" it may be worthwhile to be informed.

http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/Roman%20Catholic%20Church%20sex%20abuse%20scandal

pork99 · 13-07-2004 09:01PM

I have a friend who is a straight shootin', mass goin' every Sunday sort of chap who sincerely believes that all the abuse scandals in the Catholic Church are the result of it being infiltrated by Communist agents over the last 50 years in order to subvert and undermine it from the inside?!?!?! :eek: :rolleyes:

cleareyed · 13-07-2004 09:47PM

Homosexuality among priests is no surprise at all. Abolishing the rule on celibacy would really do nothing for the priesthood because 1) belief among intelligent people has collapsed which is why there are so few student priests and 2) the priesthood in most west european and us churches attracts homosexuals. Why? I dunno. Ask them.
The problem with gay orgies in seminaries is this: the RC Church utterly condemns gay sex and gay orientation so what are the very people who claim to stand against homosexuality doing engaging in it? Its a problem of hypocrisy; its a problem that is connected to the pedophilia problem in that there seems to be one law for clerics and another for lay people. If you are a gay priest fine; get your kit off with Fr. Big. If you are a gay man f*** off. If you are a priest pedophile, we'll move you on to fresh pastures, if you are a lay pedophile well that's different. If the Church practised what it rammed down people's throats for generations it would stop hemoragging respect and members.

Vladimar · 14-07-2004 12:05AM

the priesthood in most west european and us churches attracts homosexuals. Why? I dunno.

Maybe because there's no chance of having a meaningful [ie. marriage] relationship with a woman, no great loss for a gay guy.

CuLT · 14-07-2004 12:15AM

Originally posted by Vladimar
Maybe because there's no chance of having a meaningful [ie. marriage] relationship with a woman, no great loss for a gay guy.

"Vladimar - crackin' out jems since '01"

pork99 · 14-07-2004 12:17AM

Originally posted by Vladimar
Maybe because there's no chance of having a meaningful [ie. marriage] relationship with a woman, no great loss for a gay guy.

Remember Fr Michael Cleary? Married in all but name for years on the sly. He wasn't or isn't the only one.

Champ · 14-07-2004 12:28AM

Nope. Just further reaffirms my decision to reject the catholic church that was forced upon me as a kid.

Aye; i feel exactly the same way.

And also think of all the violence related to religion as well.. :rolleyes:

Out of interest is there actually a formal term for us non religious types?

CuLT · 14-07-2004 12:49AM

Originally posted by Champ
Aye; i feel exactly the same way.

And also think of all the violence related to religion as well.. :rolleyes:

Out of interest is there actually a formal term for us non religious types?

Ungodly Heathens?

I prefer no labelling tbh.

pork99 · 14-07-2004 12:55AM

Originally posted by Champ

Out of interest is there actually a formal term for us non religious types?

In the last census we are the second biggest group in the country after RCs.

But what gets into the news? The 300% increase in Muslims.

l3rian · 14-07-2004 05:46AM

what a bunch of idiots those pedo priests are

is it true that no one is joining the priesthood anymore?

well at least the priesthood gave us father ted before it crashed

Out of interest is there actually a formal term for us non religious types?

we are all infidels

from http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=infidel

1. An unbeliever with respect to a particular religion, especially Christianity or Islam.
2. One who has no religious beliefs.
3. One who doubts or rejects a particular doctrine, system, or principle.

or athiests, whatever

[Preacher] · 14-07-2004 06:06AM

Originally posted by Evil_Bilbo
Shame it wasnt a nunnery

Genius.

df001i6876 · 14-07-2004 07:10AM

when i was kid we had no toilet rolls

my mother used too leave the bible in the toilet slowly pages started too go missing . can you gess were they went. too a good cause . them page were the best toilet paper. i ever used.

any more about that book of fiction . i could do with good toilet roll

Champ · 14-07-2004 11:06AM

we are all infidels

Well it could have been worse... something like heretics... :rolleyes:

Batbat · 14-07-2004 11:16AM

I dont understand how anyone could have any respect for priests any more, yes i know that most of them are good but in the end they are still members of one of the moust soul less organisations since the Nazi party, no moral compass whatsoever

Priests 'in orgy' at seminary

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