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Priests 'in orgy' at seminary

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  • 12-07-2004 12:46pm
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    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,252 Mod ✭✭✭✭


    http://www.breakingnews.ie/2004/07/12/story156648.html

    Roman Catholic leaders in Austria called an emergency meeting today after officials discovered a vast cache of photos and videos allegedly depicting young priests having sex at a seminary.

    About 40,000 photographs and an undisclosed number of films, including child pornography, were downloaded on computers at the seminary in St Poelten, about 50 miles west of Vienna, the respected news magazine Profil reported.

    Officials with the local diocese declined to comment but were meeting privately on the scandal, Austrian state television reported.

    It said the seminary’s director, the Rev Ulrich Kuechl, and his deputy, Wolfgang Rothe, had resigned.

    The Austrian Bishops Conference issued a statement today pledging a full and swift investigation.

    “Anything that has to do with homosexuality or pornography has no place at a seminary for priests,” it said.

    Church officials discovered the material on a computer at the seminary, Profil said. It published several images purportedly showing young priests and their instructors kissing and fondling each other and engaging in orgies and sex games.

    The child porn came mostly from web sites based in Poland, the magazine said.

    Bishop Kurt Krenn, a conservative churchman who oversees the St Poelten Diocese, told Austrian television he had seen photos of seminary leaders in sexual situations with students. Krenn, however, dismissed the photos as “silly pranks” that “had nothing to do with homosexuality”.

    A group of St. Poelten Diocese officials planned to ask the Vatican to remove Krenn as bishop, Austrian radio reported.

    Vatican spokesman Ciro Benedettini told the Austria Press Agency that the Holy See had no comment.

    Krenn, 68, issued a statement calling the accusations groundless while conceding that he “may have made some wrong personnel decisions” at the seminary.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 8,969 ✭✭✭Big Ears


    :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,811 ✭✭✭✭billy the squid


    Why is it that whenever someone wants to do something illegal they have to take pictures of it. talk about giving yourself enough rope :o


  • Registered Users Posts: 954 ✭✭✭ChipZilla


    Party on.

    Does stuff like this surprise people any more?


  • Registered Users Posts: 18,484 ✭✭✭✭Stephen


    Nope. Just further reaffirms my decision to reject the catholic church that was forced upon me as a kid.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,372 ✭✭✭Kone


    Originally posted by Stephen
    Nope. Just further reaffirms my decision to reject the catholic church that was forced upon me as a kid.

    Ditto!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,746 ✭✭✭pork99


    Quelle une f*cking suprise as the French say


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 95 ✭✭ALLGOOD


    Originally posted by Stephen
    Nope. Just further reaffirms my decision to reject the catholic church that was forced upon me as a kid.

    Exactly. Its only in this day and age that people can see the catholic church for what they really are. Still a bloddy shame they will never pay for their crimes against humanity properly.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,563 ✭✭✭leeroybrown


    For years I've thought that if (hypothetically) the Catholic Church allowed priests to have sex and marry then 99% of these abuse problems would disappear.

    Priests having sex in the Seminary is nothing new. I'd have no problem with that if they'd keep clear of underage kids.


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,924 ✭✭✭✭BuffyBot


    Priests having sex in the Seminary is nothing new. I'd have no problem with that if they'd keep clear of minors.

    Indeed.

    I say good on them re: the orgy's. You need something to counteract all those masses ;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 15,815 ✭✭✭✭po0k


    [sweeping_generalisation]

    They're Austrain.

    I'm not surprised.

    [/sweeping_generalisation]


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,012 ✭✭✭munkeehaven


    maaaaannnn its just not natural to repress your sexual urges unless its for a certain amount of time to ''refresh'' or whatever,but for priests, i think it can really mess up their heads..man is a sexual animal....god that child porn thing is just phucking disgusting..but you get so used to hearing it theses days it just seems to slide out of your conscience..:dunno: :(


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,626 ✭✭✭smoke.me.a.kipper


    Originally posted by leeroybrown
    For years I've thought that if (hypothetically) the Catholic Church allowed priests to have sex and marry then 99% of these abuse problems would disappear.

    Priests having sex in the Seminary is nothing new. I'd have no problem with that if they'd keep clear of underage kids.

    i agree with you entirely.


  • Registered Users Posts: 481 ✭✭Evil_Bilbo


    Shame it wasnt a nunnery


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,666 ✭✭✭Imposter


    Originally posted by SyxPak
    [sweeping_generalisation]

    They're Austrain.

    I'm not surprised.

    [/sweeping_generalisation]

    tut, tut. But ye I know what you mean.

    Here's another article on ORF about it.
    ORF article (In german)

    The Bishops comment here are laughable but unfortunately not surprising. Denial is the normal defense I do believe.

    (For those who can't get the gist of it he claimed the photos were just photos, bad photos but nothing criminal about them. And apparently there was nothing homosexual about what was in the photos.)


  • Registered Users Posts: 18,484 ✭✭✭✭Stephen


    Not a word about this on the RTE news site. Heh.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,107 ✭✭✭John R


    Originally posted by leeroybrown
    For years I've thought that if (hypothetically) the Catholic Church allowed priests to have sex and marry then 99% of these abuse problems would disappear.
    Unfortunately not, paedophiles will abuse children no matter what other relationships they are in. That there is such a high number of paedophiles in the priesthood is because paedophiles are attracted to positions where they will have power over children rather than the lifestyle of being a priest turning otherwise normal people into child abusers.
    Priests having sex in the Seminary is nothing new. I'd have no problem with that if they'd keep clear of underage kids.

    Indeed, they should be encouraged to bugger each other senseless. They could even put on live shows for the old bags on a sunday morning, that would liven things up.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,252 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dub13


    Originally posted by Evil_Bilbo
    Shame it wasnt a nunnery


    Now there is a thought.....


  • Registered Users Posts: 23,212 ✭✭✭✭Tom Dunne


    Pity the only nuns I know are over 50 and a bit mad.

    Then again, in my head they are in their early 20's, all wearing black, and are very, very naughty......


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,012 ✭✭✭munkeehaven


    its like that sex in the city episode where samantha tries to ride the pious monk-hunk.....would anyone feel guilty if they had feelings for a nun/priest (provided they are young and good-looking) and went on a mission to seduce them? i would:dunno: ....for maybe two seconds!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,918 ✭✭✭Deadwing


    Originally posted by tom dunne

    Then again, in my head they are in their early 20's, all wearing black, and are very, very naughty......

    Man, thats in your head too?!
    :cool:

    Seriously tho, are any of us really that surprised?
    You cant expect to coop a bunch of guys up together for years on end with no access to women and expect them not to get a bit horny now and again. Come on, weve all seen Oz, right? You know what goes on when someone drops the soap.
    Still doesnt excuse the kiddy fiddling tho, shower of bastards.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,563 ✭✭✭leeroybrown


    Originally posted by Evil_Bilbo
    Shame it wasnt a nunnery
    Probably best it wasn't. That would be spookily reminicant of the African missionary scandals.
    Originally posted by John R
    Unfortunately not, paedophiles will abuse children no matter what other relationships they are in. That there is such a high number of paedophiles in the priesthood is because paedophiles are attracted to positions where they will have power over children rather than the lifestyle of being a priest turning otherwise normal people into child abusers.
    I agree that there is an immensely/disturbingly high incidence of paedophillia among Catholic priests but I disagree that marriage/sex wouldn't alleviate the problem greatly. Priests having the opportunity of a normal family life would, in my view, make the church a far more natural/normal environment and remove a lot of the temptation to resort to child abuse. Yes, some child abusers will always sucumb to the temptation but many others given the correct environment might never even consider it.

    In my view a life of enforced abstinence from both sex and the normal intimacy of a relationship is not a suitable situation for most people.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1 staznik


    This is just further proof of the undeniable link between homesexuality and paedophilia.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,102 ✭✭✭RossFixxxed


    Originally posted by staznik
    This is just further proof of the undeniable link between homesexuality and paedophilia.

    :eek:
    es is zeit zu fur ranche!

    wir mussen die juden ausrotten!

    :p


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,514 ✭✭✭Sleipnir


    Originally posted by staznik
    This is just further proof of the undeniable link between homesexuality and paedophilia.


    Oh that's funny. First Newbie Post Of the Year Award!


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,924 ✭✭✭✭BuffyBot


    Originally posted by staznik
    This is just further proof of the undeniable link between homesexuality and paedophilia.


    Yes, it is isn't it.

    Yet again, I recommend the ducking stools..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 75 ✭✭lyonsy


    God must be sooooo mad round about now!:mad:


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,560 ✭✭✭Slutmonkey57b


    Krenn, 68, issued a statement calling the accusations groundless while conceding that he “may have made some wrong personnel decisions” at the seminary.

    Hmm. Like pointing out "Hey lads child porn is OK by me." ?

    Gotta love the catholic church


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 95 ✭✭ALLGOOD


    Anybody think we'll every see the catholic church disbanded in Ireland ?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,556 ✭✭✭✭Sir Digby Chicken Caesar


    it all depends on how soon I get into power..


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,746 ✭✭✭pork99


    Originally posted by staznik
    This is just further proof of the undeniable link between homesexuality and paedophilia.

    I zink if you are measuring zer skulls Herr Staznik you vill find ze unrefutable scientific evidence for zis. I am also blaming infiltration of ze Catholic Church by ze Communists, ze Semites und ze Negroes fur zis mein self.


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