Garda I.D's

kahlua · 23-06-2004 09:31AM

In Galway pubs and clubs will only except a passport or a drivers licence.

Hell_en_earth · 23-06-2004 10:14AM

I can really only speak for my own encounter's with bouncer's / barpeople They have alway taken my garda ID I never carry anything else so if they don't take it I would report them because it's illegal not to take a goverenment issued ID. If the garda accept it there is no reason why they shouldn't. And most pub's should have that secton of the law posted on the door, I have seen this in several pub's so if they challenge you, quote the law at them, they get scared because usually they don't know it themselves!!!

Duffman · 23-06-2004 10:54AM

Originally posted by dark_knight_ire
As for Section 15 of the Act well thats what you may produce on the demand of a member of An Garda Siochana.

This simply isn't true. The provisions of the act regarding id apply specifically to the owners of licensed premises and their employees. It has nothing to do with the powers of Gardai to ask for id.

Just to clarify, there is no legal basis for a pub/club refusing someone on the grounds that they don't have one particular form of government id.

dark_knight_ire · 23-06-2004 11:28AM

True but see look at it this way if i was a bouncer you come up to go into the club i work at and i dont like you maybe i shagged your gf or something i dont know thats beside the point. He stops you asks for ID you produce a passport (silly cos they are not worth losing) he tells you they only accept garda id you argue you point he is not listening so you start to go on how unfairly you are being treated.

You attempt any action next day or so he is asked what the story was all he has to say was the person was abusive and had to much to drink any of the two are ground not to be allowed in.

See gardai are fair we accept most forms of ID if asking to produce, but you must remember a lot of the bouncers in the city are criminals with ties to parties like sinn fein.

It is slowly changing the industry will be regulated soon.

jabberwock · 23-06-2004 11:52AM

Originally posted by Duffman
This simply isn't true. The provisions of the act regarding id apply specifically to the owners of licensed premises and their employees. It has nothing to do with the powers of Gardai to ask for id.

Just to clarify, there is no legal basis for a pub/club refusing someone on the grounds that they don't have one particular form of government id.

but sure there is no such thing as a dress code or over-21's into a ordinary pub but that doesn't stop the bouncers from inforcing them

Kalikat · 23-06-2004 02:02PM

can be used for pretty much everything, even flights to the UK

Not on Ryanair or Aer Lingus anymore, AFAIK, although Eurolines coaches will apparently accept them.

I lost my passport recently (as I was STUPIDLY using it for ID in town), and thought that getting a Garda ID would be a quick way of getting photo ID for an urgent flight to London. Boy, was I wrong! I phoned and was told that the waiting time was more like 8-10 weeks at the moment. (I know! What are they doing - carving them by hand onto ancient cherry wood, and embossing them with the finest gold?

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Duffman · 23-06-2004 02:36PM

Originally posted by Kalikat
Not on Ryanair or Aer Lingus anymore, AFAIK, although Eurolines coaches will apparently accept them.

I lost my passport recently (as I was STUPIDLY using it for ID in town), and thought that getting a Garda ID would be a quick way of getting photo ID for an urgent flight to London.

The exact same thing happened to me

I suppose I should report it or something.. :dunno:
Although €80 for a new one seems very excessive..

jabberwock · 23-06-2004 03:04PM

Originally posted by Duffman
The exact same thing happened to me

I suppose I should report it or something.. :dunno:
Although €80 for a new one seems very excessive..

well when interpol or scotland yard arrives at your door wondering where what you were doing in such and such a place, the expense won't seem so important

Gavin · 23-06-2004 05:04PM

Originally posted by dark_knight_ire
See gardai are fair we accept most forms of ID if asking to produce, but you must remember a lot of the bouncers in the city are criminals with ties to parties like sinn fein.

It is slowly changing the industry will be regulated soon.

Holy cow, thats an amazingly general statement to be made by someone claiming to be a member of the gardai. What age are you mate ? 13 ?

Gav

Duffman · 23-06-2004 05:05PM

Originally posted by jabberwock
well when interpol or scotland yard arrives at your door wondering where what you were doing in such and such a place, the expense won't seem so important

lol

Explosive_Cornflake · 23-06-2004 06:14PM

Originally posted by Verb
Holy cow, thats an amazingly general statement to be made by someone claiming to be a member of the gardai. What age are you mate ? 13 ?

Gav

But largely true to a degree i'd imagine.

Healio · 23-06-2004 06:41PM

Originally posted by Verb
Holy cow, thats an amazingly general statement to be made by someone claiming to be a member of the gardai. What age are you mate ? 13 ?

Gav

i read his profile he is 23 apparently.

keu · 23-06-2004 06:56PM

if i were a garda (which i'm not) I wouldn't go around parading the fact on boards...AND including my full name to top it off???
(and then go bad mouthing local bouncers affiliating them with sinfein.)
silly innit?

Explosive_Cornflake · 23-06-2004 07:03PM

Originally posted by keu
if i were a garda (which i'm not) I wouldn't go around parading the fact on boards...AND including my full name to top it off???
(and then go bad mouthing local bouncers affiliating them with sinfein.)
silly innit?

Thats a good point. Maybe he has a grudge against some garda and this is his cunning revenge?

steveland? · 23-06-2004 10:16PM

I got my garda id a couple months ago (took well over 6 weeks to arrive whereas ya can get fake ones in no time these days) and some bouncer in Bruxelles off grafton st told me it was fake. He took out an id he had confiscated from someone else to compare it with mine. I always get ided cos i look fairly young but this was the first time someone wouldnt accept my id. I was just hopin he'd confiscate my id and i could go straight down to the garda station on pearse st and report him. Thats illegal to take someones garda id right?

Well anyways i work in a pub and the pub doesnt have any rules about whether you need a garda id only. We'll accept passports and driving licences aswell but be warned that most drivers licences can look very fake if they have been around the block a few times and they look a little worn in. I've refused plenty of people with driving licences cos they look too dodgy to be accepted and we have to cover all bases...

So anyway a garda id is the safest option but it helps to have something else, preferably a passport with you but since a passport is so important to keep safe some sort of a student id is handy to keep with you aswell as your garda id just in case they quibble about the garda id

steveland? · 23-06-2004 10:22PM

Originally posted by Hell_en_earth
it's illegal not to take a goverenment issued ID.

Look at the back of your id. It says on it the card doesnt guarantee the holder to entry to any place. Pubs have the legal right to refuse ANYONE they want despite the reason.

A Garda id isnt there so you can be guaranteed to get in somewhere... it's just there so you can prove your age.

Garda ID's are only there so they have a standard and the fact that they only accept garda id's, passports or drivers licences is mainly to stop people using student cards and other forms of id which are easily fakeable.

dark_knight_ire · 30-06-2004 07:29PM

I could not give a flying f*** what you think, just giving the proceedure and helping out people. i like the frog face is it a self portrait ???

Oh as someone stated in a post your right there is no such thing as over 21's. The only way to teach them a leasson well is not going back. you won't get anywhere with legal action you would not first to try its been done, and as for the criminal side well there is none really so noting the police can do.

Hit them in the pocket

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