Is WW3 starting ?...

Paddy20 · 23-05-2004 09:37PM #1

In view of Iraq and the Middle East calamity. Are we due to the American, British, Israeli attitudes, heading into World war 3 .

Imo we are now closer than at any time in my lifetime, and I am concerned, are you ?

Pepe LeFrits · 23-05-2004 09:41PM

no

bizmark · 23-05-2004 09:44PM

Er no who are we going to have a world war with ?

and judgeing by both iraq war's it would be one hell of a short war

Pepe LeFrits · 23-05-2004 09:45PM

marsians living in paddys basement...?...!.

AndrewWK · 23-05-2004 09:50PM

No

bizmark · 23-05-2004 09:53PM

Honestly though who the fu*k are we going to have a war with ?

what do you be thinking about in your free time paddy been playing to much command and conqure me thinks

sceptre · 23-05-2004 10:33PM

Originally posted by Paddy20
Imo we are now closer than at any time in my lifetime

You don't remember the Cuban missile crisis?

kano476 · 23-05-2004 11:00PM

fu*k it lets invade the ukraine. that'll teach em to win the eurovision.

actually a second emergency would be great craic.

Dont Ban Me · 24-05-2004 12:25AM

No!!

Lump · 24-05-2004 12:44AM

No, I don't think WW3 is on the way. However, people in the Uk are starting to relise that Blair was a n00b for backing Bush..... it only took a year

John

Chinafoot · 24-05-2004 01:13AM

roll on november.......but bush cheated once whats to stop him cheating again.

as for WW3, who knows.

Funky · 24-05-2004 01:53AM

no

Ellesmere · 24-05-2004 02:02AM

absolutley not, look at what happened during the 'cold war'. theres too many people on the make to let something like 'mutual assured destruction' ruin it.

BlitzKrieg · 24-05-2004 05:37AM

I was thinking...

do you think there would be a chance of a Second American civil war???

Far fetched but maybe more likely then ww3?

could be spurrned on if GW cheats again...or something similar (unpopular legistration etc etc)...

or are they too patriotic to let such a thing happen...

actually now that i think about it...civil wars seem to be impossible once a country gets into the western world (i.e bloody rich) maybe all this consumerism is controlling the populace to such a large extent that large scale mobilisation...

hmm....

ooo its 530 time to turn the brain off...

Hobbes · 24-05-2004 07:12AM

Originally posted by BlitzKrieg
I was thinking...

do you think there would be a chance of a Second American civil war???

Far fetched but maybe more likely then ww3?

could be spurrned on if GW cheats again...or something similar (unpopular legistration etc etc)...

http://johntitor.strategicbrains.com/

daveg · 24-05-2004 07:55AM

Originally posted by sceptre
You don't remember the Cuban missile crisis?

Bet me to it.

BlitzKrieg · 24-05-2004 08:49AM

man...that john titor stuff is interesting...

pity he doesnt mention much about the world outside america

(how would want to nuke the irish?)

whosurpaddy · 24-05-2004 09:06AM

Originally posted by bizmark
Er no who are we going to have a world war with ?

and judgeing by both iraq war's it would be one hell of a short war

em we are neutral, last time i checked.

hedgetrimmer · 24-05-2004 09:47AM

Neutral in a very pro-USA/UK way, in fariness.

I'd be kinda worried about the China Taiwan situation, and America's willingness to step in there too. I don't think Ireland would get involved in a war directly, but I think there's trouble brewing on many horizons at the moment, and USA is involved in too many.

As long as this one bypasses Europe - we've had our fair share of major wars

BlitzKrieg · 24-05-2004 09:51AM

awwww but we are the experts now.....nothing like experiance.

i know i said i'd go to bed at 530 DAMNIT ITs 10 GO TO F***ING BED HITS SELF WITH EMPTY CHAMPAGNE BOTTLE....meh

Agent Smith · 24-05-2004 10:43AM

i just cant wait to blow some guys head off... YEAh!

only kidding....
/me ponders

in short.... no world war 3 isnt happening anytime soon, keep watching sky news tho... they'll tell ya the truth!

RE*AC*TOR · 24-05-2004 11:00AM

Originally posted by Paddy20
In view of Iraq and the Middle East calamity. Are we due to the American, British, Israeli attitudes, heading into World war 3 .

Imo we are now closer than at any time in my lifetime, and I am concerned, are you ?

I think he meant "we" in the global, "we" as humans heading for another world war (not "we" irish).
I would admit that it is the closest currently in my lifetime to another WW (and no i don't remember the cuban missile crisis - wasn't around in 1962).
I think the critical thing here is the need for the involvement of a serious (ie abundance of troops and nuclear weapons) counter-power to the US. So that could be Russia (unlikely), Europe (very unlikely), China (probably not) or India / Pakistan (you never know). If India and Pakistan were to flair up against each other the whole place could go nuts. China and Russia would get fairly nervous and Israel / Middleeast could devolve into further quagmire. The US is stretched enough already. Europe could become involved and we could be a nice easy target on the periphery (but most likely not).

Xterminator · 24-05-2004 11:14AM

I think the only bloc that is powerful enough to trigger WW3 are the Chinese.

If the sh|t hits the fan in Korea or Taiwan I reckon at could trigger somethng major.

Mind you Injdia and Pakistan have been doing their best recently to bring about the first 'nuclear exchange' in war.

But the Arab states lack the ability to bring the fight to the west, on a sustained basis. That is why 'terror' is the only weapon they have. Thus they migh inflame public opinion, they might fan the flames of war, but I cant see a WW3 scenario coming from Iraq.

X

Paddy20 · 24-05-2004 12:31PM

sceptre,

Of course I remember the Cuban missile crisis, when Kruschev and Kennedy had us on the brink.

However, the world has changed dramatically since those days. More nuclear threats, glad some posters noted the India/Pakistan nuclear war risk.

I am concerned at the number of countries and terrorist organisations that now already have or are capable of obtaining nuclear or chemical warfare materials which could easily be used to wipe out the worlds citizens in a manner never before imaginable, and I believe there exists a number of 'suicidal' mindset lunatic fringe groups who could trigger WW3 by their actions, and basic inexperience, or just a total lack of respect for 'Life on this planet'.

New risks exist today that I believe are beyond control.

Slutmonkey57b · 24-05-2004 01:03PM

ww3 is teh win!

DMT · 24-05-2004 01:21PM

"The Holy Angels of Jesus" will apparently protect Ireland from WWIII according to some nun on the radio a few ago. I think they're going to use force fields and shit.....

So nothing to worry about then....

ixoy · 24-05-2004 01:38PM

But we're already involved in a global war - the war on terror! All hail the President for bringing us here!!

Oh, say can you see, by the dawn's early light,
What so proudly we hailed at the twilight's last gleaming?
Whose broad stripes and bright stars, through the perilous fight,
O'er the ramparts we watched, were so gallantly streaming?
And the rockets' red glare, the bombs bursting in air,
Gave proof through the night that our flag was still there.
O say, does that star-spangled banner yet wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave?

On the shore, dimly seen through the mists of the deep,
Where the foe's haughty host in dread silence reposes,
What is that which the breeze, o'er the towering steep,
As it fitfully blows, now conceals, now discloses?
Now it catches the gleam of the morning's first beam,
In full glory reflected now shines on the stream:
'Tis the star-spangled banner! O long may it wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave.

And where is that band who so vauntingly swore
That the havoc of war and the battle's confusion
A home and a country should leave us no more?
Their blood has wiped out their foul footstep's pollution.
No refuge could save the hireling and slave
From the terror of flight, or the gloom of the grave:
And the star-spangled banner in triumph doth wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave.

Oh! thus be it ever, when freemen shall stand
Between their loved homes and the war's desolation!
Blest with victory and peace, may the heaven-rescued land
Praise the Power that hath made and preserved us a nation.
Then conquer we must, for our cause it is just,
And this be our motto: "In God is our trust."
And the star-spangled banner forever shall wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave!

Dont be at yourself · 24-05-2004 01:54PM

Maybe if Bush gets re-elected and decides to start **** with North Korea.

Tails · 24-05-2004 02:48PM

No, No war, but maybe its the falling of america as a superpower, look at history great empires fell not from other great empires but internal struggle or barbarians. The barbarians in the case could be these terrorists everybody is talking about.

bizmark · 24-05-2004 02:58PM

Originally posted by whosurpaddy
em we are neutral, last time i checked.

By we i mean the eu or west there’s VERY little chance of England and Germany going at it again or the usa attacking the eu ......Russia is to poor and ill equipped to fight a world war china....well i don’t think china is up for a war tbh

Theres no great power out there right now that wants to fight each ...and any way if they did the whole MAD thing would put them right off

all that’s been happening lately is a bunch of small wars that where over in a week or two this has been happen since the beginning of time

seamus · 24-05-2004 03:33PM

Originally posted by Hobbes
http://johntitor.strategicbrains.com/

Heh, that's cool. I'd heard the name, but never read the whole thing.
The only thing being mildly convincing is the prediction about suppression of civil liberties, which came well before 11/09/2001 and the Patriot Act.

There are a lot of intelligent, but highly bored people on the Internet though. It wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if someone went to a crazy amount of effort to pull that off and try to create an Internet legend.

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