What do women want? Some questions and observations........

Coney Island · 03-05-2004 01:24AM #1

Hey, can anyone explain why when you date a girl, whatever you do is wrong?
Case 1:If you show that you care about her and that you love her, then she freaks out because "she is not ready for a relationship (with you!)" .......
Case 2:If you try to take it easy and just have a good time together then she blames you that you don't love her and you don't care about her and that you are only after sex.
Does this make sense? What are men suppose to do? :-)

Also, all women seems to be complaining about drunken guys they get chat up by in night clubs, and then they are more likely to reject a sober guy rather than a drunk one when he makes a move....that's another mistery. And what about women complaining about drunken guys and the they hang out at the weekend and they completely pissed? Even more confusing...

It just popped into my mind one more: why do women in Ireland take pride about having "scored" a guy in a night club and they feel flattered if they "get lucky" and show off how good they are to their friends? For god sake, there is nothing to take pride for...even the ugliest of the women out there can have a one night stand with all the queues of desperate guys out there who would sell their mother for a night of sex.

hey hang on....I have another one: why does every decent women you see in a night club have an ugly friend pulling her away from you if you try to chat her up, regardless if she is interested in you or not? If I try to do this to one of my friends he would punch me on the nose!

Why do women complain if a guy asks them for their phone number and he doesn't call them, and a guy shouldn't complain when a woman gives him her phone number and then when he calls she refuses to see him again?

These are only a few of 100 question I could have but I am too tired to type them all....anyone out there as any typical example of controversial behaviour?

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar · 03-05-2004 01:27AM

What do women want? Some questions and observations........

Hey, can anyone explain why when you date a girl, whatever you do is wrong?
Case 1:If you show that you care about her and that you love her, then she freaks out because "she is not ready for a relationship (with you!)" .......
Case 2:If you try to take it easy and just have a good time together then she blames you that you don't love her and you don't care about her and that you are only after sex.

was it the same girl?

because if not I think I see a small flaw in your premise..

Coney Island · 03-05-2004 01:31AM

I am not referring to anyone in particular.....these are just things I have noticed in past relationships with women, and in discussion I had with friends in general. Most of the guys out there seem to be puzzled by women sometimes, and the greater mistake is that we (men) still try to understand them....:D

I love women, don't get mislead by my statements......I just can't understand them

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar · 03-05-2004 01:34AM

try and treat them like people?

and what age group are you dealing with here... anything under 26/27 is not "women"... still very much in the "teenage girl mentality" there.

Sarky · 03-05-2004 01:35AM

You might as well be flicking bread pellets into a black hole, for all the good it will do you.

Women are the Anti-logic. Don't even bother trying to understand.

Duffman · 03-05-2004 01:42AM

Originally posted by Coney Island

Also, all women seems to be complaining about drunken guys they get chat up by in night clubs, and then they are more likely to reject a sober guy rather than a drunk one when he makes a move....that's another mistery.

Girls, like guys, are scared of rejection at some level.. If a guy is hammered there's almost zero chance of rejection. Not that much of a mystery tbh.

Moral of the story? Get drunk and score.

That is all.

KlodaX · 03-05-2004 01:42AM

case 1: whenever you LOVE a girl ... it freaks her out? .. well yeah .. whenever a women loves a guy it generally freaks him out too...

you may be coming on a bit strong ... especially too early .. love is a very strong word

case 2: who blames people for not loving them? .. where are you getting these girls?... are you expecting something in return?

....

stop going to nightclubs to meet women.
I'm sorry I don't have a better solution for you .. but ... it seems to be the best solution.

why do women in Ireland take pride about having "scored" a guy in a night club and they feel flattered if they "get lucky" and show off how good they are to their friends? For god sake, there is nothing to take pride for...even the ugliest of the women out there can have a one night stand with all the queues of desperate guys out there who would sell their mother for a night of sex.

... ok .. if you 'scored' with a girl in a night club .. would it mean you slept with a hoar? .. no.. no it wouldn't .. it would mean you shagged a nice bird... *for lack of a better term*...

and a guy shouldn't complain when a woman gives him her phone number and then when he calls she refuses to see him again?

alcohol is like blinders to a horse

*edited due to missreading on my behalf*

Havelock · 03-05-2004 03:03AM

alcohol is like blinders to a horse

Speaking from experiacne KlodaX?

Women surpass the logic engines of today. Computers were actually not orginally designed for military use, nerds just wanted to figure out women.

Nah, we will never understand women, but why complain, the still have that mystery that always charms us.

jesus_thats_gre · 03-05-2004 03:29AM

A simple, you can't live with them but you can't live without them will suffice!

Women are totally different to men. This is why we will never full understand each other!

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar · 03-05-2004 03:29AM

there is of course the idea that there is nothing to understand.

that they are just people like yourselves, and if you make an effort to learn more about yourself and grow as a person you might maybe be able to understand a teensy bit more about others around you?

women aren't special.. they're just human

KlodaX · 03-05-2004 01:00PM

women aren't special

.. take that back! ... women are special ...

Speaking from experiacne KlodaX?

... I thought everyone experienced beer goggles at some point in life?

'I think yer bout an 8 or a 9... maybe 9 and a half in 4 beers time!'

Tommy Vercetti · 03-05-2004 01:21PM

Originally posted by Coney Island

hey hang on....I have another one: why does every decent women you see in a night club have an ugly friend pulling her away from you if you try to chat her up, regardless if she is interested in you or not? If I try to do this to one of my friends he would punch me on the nose!

the ugly one is jealous because she doesn't have the confidence to be on her own, because she realises that she is an ugly monster; therefore you must take the initiative and suggest a threesome. One ug and one good looking girl = two averages - the yin and the yang or whatever it is.

If they refuse, punch them in the nose.

Trust me it works:ninja:

Lainey · 03-05-2004 01:23PM

don't know what kinda girls you know but if someone came up to me and my friends suggesting that it's more than likely him walking away with a wobbly nose..

The Sweeper · 03-05-2004 01:26PM

Originally posted by Coney Island
Hey, can anyone explain why when you date a girl, whatever you do is wrong?

...I think it's just you, to be honest.

Case 1:If you show that you care about her and that you love her, then she freaks out because "she is not ready for a relationship (with you!)" .......

Some people just aren't ready. The younger, the less ready generally. If she's not ready she's not ready. What do you want her to do? Lie? Tell you she likes you and then laugh behind your back? Be glad of her honesty.

Case 2:If you try to take it easy and just have a good time together then she blames you that you don't love her and you don't care about her and that you are only after sex.

I generally thought having a good time together in the biblical sense meant just having sex. Did you ask her in advance if that was what she wanted, or did you use the astounding powers of deduction that lend such credence to this thread?

Does this make sense?

Yes, perfect sense. The first one wasn't ready for a relationship, the second one didn't feel sufficiently valued. Where's the problem?

What are men suppose to do? :-)

Normally, I'd say keep trying. You're a special case. I recomend the foreign legion.

Also, all women seems to be complaining about drunken guys they get chat up by in night clubs, and then they are more likely to reject a sober guy rather than a drunk one when he makes a move....

You know, nine out of ten statistics are made up on the spot... Chances are when you're drunk you make a pass at anything and are therefore more likely to score. When you're sober you're more selective, thereby increasing the chances of a rejection. Crash n burn baby, crash n burn.

that's another mistery. And what about women complaining about drunken guys and the they hang out at the weekend and they completely pissed? Even more confusing...

There's a difference between 6ft 2", 13 stone and drunk, and 5ft 3", high heels and drunk. Of course in Dublin, that difference is mainly that the latter will pull a nail scissors on the former.

It just popped into my mind one more: why do women in Ireland take pride about having "scored" a guy in a night club and they feel flattered if they "get lucky" and show off how good they are to their friends?

For the same reason men do.

For god sake, there is nothing to take pride for...

Tell that to the male population.

even the ugliest of the women out there can have a one night stand with all the queues of desperate guys out there who would sell their mother for a night of sex.

Are you speaking from personal experience? Friend of a friend? And while I'm at it, how much for yore ma?

hey hang on....I have another one: why does every decent women you see in a night club have an ugly friend pulling her away from you if you try to chat her up, regardless if she is interested in you or not?

Ugly friends are like alsation dogs. They can smell a gobsh1te at 20 paces.

If I try to do this to one of my friends he would punch me on the nose!

Assuming he wasn't too busy selling his mother for a night of sex?

Why do women complain if a guy asks them for their phone number and he doesn't call them, and a guy shouldn't complain when a woman gives him her phone number and then when he calls she refuses to see him again?

Who says he shouldn't complain? Find me where it's written that he should not complain! THOU SHALLT NOT COMPLAIN BOYO! I don't think so.

These are only a few of 100 question I could have but I am too tired to type them all....anyone out there as any typical example of controversial behaviour?

About the most controversial behaviour I can think of right now is posting a thread that makes sweeping and unjustifed generalisations about the opposite sex.

The bottom line is this: most of the time when people act funny towards you, IT'S YOU. Forget your mum and your mates telling you that there's nothing wrong with you, it's most probably still just you. She doesn't want you? The "you" in that sentence is more important than the "she".

I think you should change your approach. And possibly your appearance.

Tommy Vercetti · 03-05-2004 01:27PM

Originally posted by Lainey
don't know what kinda girls you know but if someone came up to me and my friends suggesting that it's more than likely him walking away with a wobbly nose..

nah you'd be mad for it, sweetcheeks

frantic_mel · 03-05-2004 01:30PM

Take it from me

Men will never understand women, like women will never understand men.
But like the previous posts say "You cant live with them but you also cant live without them",
Women are here for one thing and thats to reproduce. We are the gateway into this world.
Women go through so much during there lifetime and with drugs around now such as "the pill" etc the majority of women go crazy. Its called artificial hormones. But however not all women are like that, you do get decent ones.
I love watching Football, Wrestling, Porn, Action Movies etc and if that keeps my boyfriend happy, well i dont really have much to complain about.

But i do think you seem to meet the wrong women.

Under 26/27 are women, its a proven fact that the majority of men are very immature in the 20's than women are. The reason why is that women have to grow up quick, from 12 onwards, the pain, the hormones, the pregnancy, the birth etc etc etc.

Barbie_666 · 03-05-2004 01:35PM

Originally posted by Coney Island
I love women, don't get mislead by my statements......I just can't understand them

Coney, sorry 2 break it to you, but you'll never understand us!!!
Women are from venus, men from mars etc.etc.etc..........:)

The Clown Man · 03-05-2004 01:48PM

Haha! Oh god why is there always the ugly friend?!

Seriously, they might be a whole lot like an alsation, but alsations go mental at the good, the bad and the ugly. I would hope to be in the "good" faction but regardless, as long as you are in a faction, the ugly friend doesn't agree. I honestly reckon they would tend to go more for the "ugly" faction because then they don't feel as threatened.

In my experience only bulldogs get past the alsations!

Bard · 03-05-2004 03:18PM

Originally posted by Barbie_666
Coney, sorry 2 break it to you, but you'll never understand us!!!

No.

But I will...

Bigshot · 03-05-2004 03:27PM

Question: What do Women Want?
Answer: They dont know.

Coney Island · 03-05-2004 05:43PM

Originally posted by Minesajackdaniels
...I think it's just you, to be honest

Some people just aren't ready. The younger, the less ready generally. If she's not ready she's not ready. What do you want her to do? Lie? Tell you she likes you and then laugh behind your back? Be glad of her honesty.

I generally thought having a good time together in the biblical sense meant just having sex. Did you ask her in advance if that was what she wanted, or did you use the astounding powers of deduction that lend such credence to this thread?

Yes, perfect sense. The first one wasn't ready for a relationship, the second one didn't feel sufficiently valued. Where's the problem?

Normally, I'd say keep trying. You're a special case. I recomend the foreign legion.

You know, nine out of ten statistics are made up on the spot... Chances are when you're drunk you make a pass at anything and are therefore more likely to score. When you're sober you're more selective, thereby increasing the chances of a rejection. Crash n burn baby, crash n burn.

There's a difference between 6ft 2", 13 stone and drunk, and 5ft 3", high heels and drunk. Of course in Dublin, that difference is mainly that the latter will pull a nail scissors on the former.

For the same reason men do.

Tell that to the male population.

Are you speaking from personal experience? Friend of a friend? And while I'm at it, how much for yore ma?

Ugly friends are like alsation dogs. They can smell a gobsh1te at 20 paces.

Assuming he wasn't too busy selling his mother for a night of sex?

Who says he shouldn't complain? Find me where it's written that he should not complain! THOU SHALLT NOT COMPLAIN BOYO! I don't think so.

About the most controversial behaviour I can think of right now is posting a thread that makes sweeping and unjustifed generalisations about the opposite sex.

The bottom line is this: most of the time when people act funny towards you, IT'S YOU. Forget your mum and your mates telling you that there's nothing wrong with you, it's most probably still just you. She doesn't want you? The "you" in that sentence is more important than the "she".

I think you should change your approach. And possibly your appearance.

It is not just me, I have more dates in a month than an average guy in a year, and I assure you there is nothing wrong with my appearance!! I knew someone would have come out with an answer like this, just so pathetic....
I just can't stand women who play with guys because we let them behave like this (still referring to the desperate guys who will take anything from a woman in order to get her). I am a very sensitive guy (and nowadays this is seen as a very negative thing) and like to put things clear and espress my feelings very openly, however I reckon that the more you show to a woman you care about her, the more she feels she can manipulate you the way she wants. I am not only talking for personal experience, because I am sure many other guys out there think the same way as me. With this I don't mean to say that all women are bad, I am sure "Ms. Right" is out there waiting for me.....but she knows how to hide very well

About the "Being proud of scoring a guy in a club" IT IS NOT the same thing if a woman does it or a man does it. With this I don't want to say that if a man sleeps with many women he is a playboy and when a woman sleeps with different men she is a whore. But remember that the 90% of the times is the man who has to make the first move, and for many shy guys this is seen as something risky and embarassing because are afraid of rejections and can impact their confidence. For a woman, even if very shy, this is much easier...she just needs to wait for a guy to come on to her and chat her up, and as I said before even if a woman is damn ugly she can still hope to meet a decent enough guy.

banquo · 03-05-2004 07:01PM

its sooo temtpting to ask if ur weekend went ok...

The Sweeper · 03-05-2004 07:14PM

Originally posted by Coney Island
It is not just me, I have more dates in a month than an average guy in a year,

The statistics fairy strikes again!!

and I assure you there is nothing wrong with my appearance!!

Says you. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder...

I knew someone would have come out with an answer like this, just so pathetic....

It was more than one answer. And just because you don't like to hear that you're not managing your personal relationships well, doesn't mean I'm wrong. Though I agree with pathetic. I do a great pathetic. The whining, the begging, lifting one paw, I swear. I rock.

I just can't stand women who play with guys because we let them behave like this (still referring to the desperate guys who will take anything from a woman in order to get her).

So "we", and "the desparate blah blah" - all in one sentence, so you're referring to yourself? The best looking desperado out there?

I am a very sensitive guy

A sensitive bloke wouldn't have called me pathetic... sniffle...

(and nowadays this is seen as a very negative thing) and like to put things clear and espress my feelings very openly, however I reckon that the more you show to a woman you care about her, the more she feels she can manipulate you the way she wants.

Yeah!! VAGINA WIELDING OPPRESSORS!!

I am not only talking for personal experience, because I am sure many other guys out there think the same way as me.

Are you paying the statistics fairy for this flagrant abuse of her time?

With this I don't mean to say that all women are bad, I am sure "Ms. Right" is out there waiting for me.....but she knows how to hide very well

I'd hide too tbh...

About the "Being proud of scoring a guy in a club" IT IS NOT the same thing if a woman does it or a man does it. With this I don't want to say that if a man sleeps with many women he is a playboy and when a woman sleeps with different men she is a whore.

But you will anyway?

But remember that the 90% of the times is the man who has to make the first move,

And if that first move ended in him scoring, isn't that a result? Per se?

and for many shy guys this is seen as something risky and embarassing because are afraid of rejections and can impact their confidence.

I thought your point was that he didn't get rejected because she scored.

For a woman, even if very shy, this is much easier...

In your MIGHTY opinion.

she just needs to wait for a guy to come on to her and chat her up, and as I said before even if a woman is damn ugly she can still hope to meet a decent enough guy.

You sir, are an ass.

Coney Island · 03-05-2004 07:15PM

Originally posted by robbb_mm
its sooo temtpting to ask if ur weekend went ok...

Ha ha

that's funny.
No problem, I can answer this: I went out only saturday night and I didn't meet anyone special, and I went home on my own. I hope I have answered your question

Having said that I give another opportunity to some of the ladies out their to keep bitching about me on this thread....

Come on, kill me!

The Sweeper · 03-05-2004 07:21PM

Originally posted by Coney Island
out their

out there - "their" indicates possession. Maybe I will kill you. The grammatical ability of the average boards user will rise by approximately - oh, FIVE PERCENT!!

(If you can abuse the statistics fairy, why can't I?)

Coney Island · 03-05-2004 07:24PM

Originally posted by Minesajackdaniels
The statistics fairy strikes again!!

Says you. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder...

It was more than one answer. And just because you don't like to hear that you're not managing your personal relationships well, doesn't mean I'm wrong. Though I agree with pathetic. I do a great pathetic. The whining, the begging, lifting one paw, I swear. I rock.

So "we", and "the desparate blah blah" - all in one sentence, so you're referring to yourself? The best looking desperado out there?

A sensitive bloke wouldn't have called me pathetic... sniffle...

Yeah!! VAGINA WIELDING OPPRESSORS!!

Are you paying the statistics fairy for this flagrant abuse of her time?

I'd hide too tbh...

But you will anyway?

And if that first move ended in him scoring, isn't that a result? Per se?

I thought your point was that he didn't get rejected because she scored.

In your MIGHTY opinion.

You sir, are an ass.

It looks like you really took your time to answer all my points, I appreciate the effort...is this because you recognise yourself in this profile? Don't worry, you have no reason to hide from me...I would never go with a girl like you anyway.
Now go home, wear your pink dress, get drunk and go playing men hunting with your friends.....you may be tonight's winner....

Coney Island · 03-05-2004 07:28PM

Originally posted by Minesajackdaniels
out there - "their" indicates possession. Maybe I will kill you. The grammatical ability of the average boards user will rise by approximately - oh, FIVE PERCENT!!

(If you can abuse the statistics fairy, why can't I?)

My mistake, I admit this. I just didn't take my time to double check my answer before posting it. The fact that you wanted to highlight this makes me think that your frustration is growing......

5% ? are you kidding? Do one user represent the 5% of the board members? God, you are also bad at maths...

The Sweeper · 03-05-2004 07:34PM

Originally posted by Coney Island
Do one user ...

That should read "does one user". That's okay though. I wont hold it against you. Not even with a barge pole.

Coney Island · 03-05-2004 07:47PM

Originally posted by Minesajackdaniels
That should read "does one user". That's okay though. I wont hold it against you. Not even with a barge pole.

:mad: :mad: :mad:

Seraphina · 03-05-2004 08:00PM

Coney give up, you're making a stupidly generalised post and Majd will beat you down after every idiotic comment

embee · 03-05-2004 08:05PM

I want a lifetime supply of cheese, some gin and playthings.

We arent that complicated.

What do women want? Some questions and observations........

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