What do women want? Some questions and observations........

Coney Island

Hey, can anyone explain why when you date a girl, whatever you do is wrong?
Case 1:If you show that you care about her and that you love her, then she freaks out because "she is not ready for a relationship (with you!)" .......
Case 2:If you try to take it easy and just have a good time together then she blames you that you don't love her and you don't care about her and that you are only after sex.
Does this make sense? What are men suppose to do? :-)

Also, all women seems to be complaining about drunken guys they get chat up by in night clubs, and then they are more likely to reject a sober guy rather than a drunk one when he makes a move....that's another mistery. And what about women complaining about drunken guys and the they hang out at the weekend and they completely pissed? Even more confusing...

It just popped into my mind one more: why do women in Ireland take pride about having "scored" a guy in a night club and they feel flattered if they "get lucky" and show off how good they are to their friends? For god sake, there is nothing to take pride for...even the ugliest of the women out there can have a one night stand with all the queues of desperate guys out there who would sell their mother for a night of sex.

hey hang on....I have another one: why does every decent women you see in a night club have an ugly friend pulling her away from you if you try to chat her up, regardless if she is interested in you or not? If I try to do this to one of my friends he would punch me on the nose!

Why do women complain if a guy asks them for their phone number and he doesn't call them, and a guy shouldn't complain when a woman gives him her phone number and then when he calls she refuses to see him again?

These are only a few of 100 question I could have but I am too tired to type them all....anyone out there as any typical example of controversial behaviour?

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

What do women want? Some questions and observations........

Hey, can anyone explain why when you date a girl, whatever you do is wrong?
Case 1:If you show that you care about her and that you love her, then she freaks out because "she is not ready for a relationship (with you!)" .......
Case 2:If you try to take it easy and just have a good time together then she blames you that you don't love her and you don't care about her and that you are only after sex.

was it the same girl?

because if not I think I see a small flaw in your premise..

Coney Island

I am not referring to anyone in particular.....these are just things I have noticed in past relationships with women, and in discussion I had with friends in general. Most of the guys out there seem to be puzzled by women sometimes, and the greater mistake is that we (men) still try to understand them....:D

I love women, don't get mislead by my statements......I just can't understand them

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

try and treat them like people?

and what age group are you dealing with here... anything under 26/27 is not "women"... still very much in the "teenage girl mentality" there.

Sarky

You might as well be flicking bread pellets into a black hole, for all the good it will do you.

Women are the Anti-logic. Don't even bother trying to understand.

Duffman

Originally posted by Coney Island

Also, all women seems to be complaining about drunken guys they get chat up by in night clubs, and then they are more likely to reject a sober guy rather than a drunk one when he makes a move....that's another mistery.

Girls, like guys, are scared of rejection at some level.. If a guy is hammered there's almost zero chance of rejection. Not that much of a mystery tbh.

Moral of the story? Get drunk and score.

That is all.

KlodaX

case 1: whenever you LOVE a girl ... it freaks her out? .. well yeah .. whenever a women loves a guy it generally freaks him out too...

you may be coming on a bit strong ... especially too early .. love is a very strong word

case 2: who blames people for not loving them? .. where are you getting these girls?... are you expecting something in return?

....

stop going to nightclubs to meet women.
I'm sorry I don't have a better solution for you .. but ... it seems to be the best solution.

why do women in Ireland take pride about having "scored" a guy in a night club and they feel flattered if they "get lucky" and show off how good they are to their friends? For god sake, there is nothing to take pride for...even the ugliest of the women out there can have a one night stand with all the queues of desperate guys out there who would sell their mother for a night of sex.

... ok .. if you 'scored' with a girl in a night club .. would it mean you slept with a hoar? .. no.. no it wouldn't .. it would mean you shagged a nice bird... *for lack of a better term*...

and a guy shouldn't complain when a woman gives him her phone number and then when he calls she refuses to see him again?

alcohol is like blinders to a horse

*edited due to missreading on my behalf*

Havelock

alcohol is like blinders to a horse

Speaking from experiacne KlodaX?

Women surpass the logic engines of today. Computers were actually not orginally designed for military use, nerds just wanted to figure out women.

Nah, we will never understand women, but why complain, the still have that mystery that always charms us.

jesus_thats_gre

A simple, you can't live with them but you can't live without them will suffice!

Women are totally different to men. This is why we will never full understand each other!

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

there is of course the idea that there is nothing to understand.

that they are just people like yourselves, and if you make an effort to learn more about yourself and grow as a person you might maybe be able to understand a teensy bit more about others around you?

women aren't special.. they're just human

KlodaX

women aren't special

.. take that back! ... women are special ...

Speaking from experiacne KlodaX?

... I thought everyone experienced beer goggles at some point in life?

'I think yer bout an 8 or a 9... maybe 9 and a half in 4 beers time!'

Tommy Vercetti

Originally posted by Coney Island

hey hang on....I have another one: why does every decent women you see in a night club have an ugly friend pulling her away from you if you try to chat her up, regardless if she is interested in you or not? If I try to do this to one of my friends he would punch me on the nose!

the ugly one is jealous because she doesn't have the confidence to be on her own, because she realises that she is an ugly monster; therefore you must take the initiative and suggest a threesome. One ug and one good looking girl = two averages - the yin and the yang or whatever it is.

If they refuse, punch them in the nose.

Trust me it works:ninja:

Lainey

don't know what kinda girls you know but if someone came up to me and my friends suggesting that it's more than likely him walking away with a wobbly nose..

The Sweeper

Originally posted by Coney Island
Hey, can anyone explain why when you date a girl, whatever you do is wrong?

...I think it's just you, to be honest.

Case 1:If you show that you care about her and that you love her, then she freaks out because "she is not ready for a relationship (with you!)" .......

Some people just aren't ready. The younger, the less ready generally. If she's not ready she's not ready. What do you want her to do? Lie? Tell you she likes you and then laugh behind your back? Be glad of her honesty.

Case 2:If you try to take it easy and just have a good time together then she blames you that you don't love her and you don't care about her and that you are only after sex.

I generally thought having a good time together in the biblical sense meant just having sex. Did you ask her in advance if that was what she wanted, or did you use the astounding powers of deduction that lend such credence to this thread?

Does this make sense?

Yes, perfect sense. The first one wasn't ready for a relationship, the second one didn't feel sufficiently valued. Where's the problem?

What are men suppose to do? :-)

Normally, I'd say keep trying. You're a special case. I recomend the foreign legion.

Also, all women seems to be complaining about drunken guys they get chat up by in night clubs, and then they are more likely to reject a sober guy rather than a drunk one when he makes a move....

You know, nine out of ten statistics are made up on the spot... Chances are when you're drunk you make a pass at anything and are therefore more likely to score. When you're sober you're more selective, thereby increasing the chances of a rejection. Crash n burn baby, crash n burn.

that's another mistery. And what about women complaining about drunken guys and the they hang out at the weekend and they completely pissed? Even more confusing...

There's a difference between 6ft 2", 13 stone and drunk, and 5ft 3", high heels and drunk. Of course in Dublin, that difference is mainly that the latter will pull a nail scissors on the former.

It just popped into my mind one more: why do women in Ireland take pride about having "scored" a guy in a night club and they feel flattered if they "get lucky" and show off how good they are to their friends?

For the same reason men do.

For god sake, there is nothing to take pride for...

Tell that to the male population.

even the ugliest of the women out there can have a one night stand with all the queues of desperate guys out there who would sell their mother for a night of sex.

Are you speaking from personal experience? Friend of a friend? And while I'm at it, how much for yore ma?

hey hang on....I have another one: why does every decent women you see in a night club have an ugly friend pulling her away from you if you try to chat her up, regardless if she is interested in you or not?

Ugly friends are like alsation dogs. They can smell a gobsh1te at 20 paces.

If I try to do this to one of my friends he would punch me on the nose!

Assuming he wasn't too busy selling his mother for a night of sex?

Why do women complain if a guy asks them for their phone number and he doesn't call them, and a guy shouldn't complain when a woman gives him her phone number and then when he calls she refuses to see him again?

Who says he shouldn't complain? Find me where it's written that he should not complain! THOU SHALLT NOT COMPLAIN BOYO! I don't think so.

These are only a few of 100 question I could have but I am too tired to type them all....anyone out there as any typical example of controversial behaviour?

About the most controversial behaviour I can think of right now is posting a thread that makes sweeping and unjustifed generalisations about the opposite sex.

The bottom line is this: most of the time when people act funny towards you, IT'S YOU. Forget your mum and your mates telling you that there's nothing wrong with you, it's most probably still just you. She doesn't want you? The "you" in that sentence is more important than the "she".

I think you should change your approach. And possibly your appearance.

Tommy Vercetti

Originally posted by Lainey
don't know what kinda girls you know but if someone came up to me and my friends suggesting that it's more than likely him walking away with a wobbly nose..

nah you'd be mad for it, sweetcheeks

frantic_mel

Take it from me

Men will never understand women, like women will never understand men.
But like the previous posts say "You cant live with them but you also cant live without them",
Women are here for one thing and thats to reproduce. We are the gateway into this world.
Women go through so much during there lifetime and with drugs around now such as "the pill" etc the majority of women go crazy. Its called artificial hormones. But however not all women are like that, you do get decent ones.
I love watching Football, Wrestling, Porn, Action Movies etc and if that keeps my boyfriend happy, well i dont really have much to complain about.

But i do think you seem to meet the wrong women.

Under 26/27 are women, its a proven fact that the majority of men are very immature in the 20's than women are. The reason why is that women have to grow up quick, from 12 onwards, the pain, the hormones, the pregnancy, the birth etc etc etc.

Barbie_666

Originally posted by Coney Island
I love women, don't get mislead by my statements......I just can't understand them

Coney, sorry 2 break it to you, but you'll never understand us!!!
Women are from venus, men from mars etc.etc.etc..........:)

The Clown Man

Haha! Oh god why is there always the ugly friend?!

Seriously, they might be a whole lot like an alsation, but alsations go mental at the good, the bad and the ugly. I would hope to be in the "good" faction but regardless, as long as you are in a faction, the ugly friend doesn't agree. I honestly reckon they would tend to go more for the "ugly" faction because then they don't feel as threatened.

In my experience only bulldogs get past the alsations!

Bard

Originally posted by Barbie_666
Coney, sorry 2 break it to you, but you'll never understand us!!!

No.

But I will...

Bigshot

Question: What do Women Want?
Answer: They dont know.

Coney Island

Originally posted by Minesajackdaniels
...I think it's just you, to be honest


Some people just aren't ready. The younger, the less ready generally. If she's not ready she's not ready. What do you want her to do? Lie? Tell you she likes you and then laugh behind your back? Be glad of her honesty.



I generally thought having a good time together in the biblical sense meant just having sex. Did you ask her in advance if that was what she wanted, or did you use the astounding powers of deduction that lend such credence to this thread?



Yes, perfect sense. The first one wasn't ready for a relationship, the second one didn't feel sufficiently valued. Where's the problem?



Normally, I'd say keep trying. You're a special case. I recomend the foreign legion.



You know, nine out of ten statistics are made up on the spot... Chances are when you're drunk you make a pass at anything and are therefore more likely to score. When you're sober you're more selective, thereby increasing the chances of a rejection. Crash n burn baby, crash n burn.



There's a difference between 6ft 2", 13 stone and drunk, and 5ft 3", high heels and drunk. Of course in Dublin, that difference is mainly that the latter will pull a nail scissors on the former.



For the same reason men do.



Tell that to the male population.



Are you speaking from personal experience? Friend of a friend? And while I'm at it, how much for yore ma?



Ugly friends are like alsation dogs. They can smell a gobsh1te at 20 paces.



Assuming he wasn't too busy selling his mother for a night of sex?



Who says he shouldn't complain? Find me where it's written that he should not complain! THOU SHALLT NOT COMPLAIN BOYO! I don't think so.



About the most controversial behaviour I can think of right now is posting a thread that makes sweeping and unjustifed generalisations about the opposite sex.

The bottom line is this: most of the time when people act funny towards you, IT'S YOU. Forget your mum and your mates telling you that there's nothing wrong with you, it's most probably still just you. She doesn't want you? The "you" in that sentence is more important than the "she".

I think you should change your approach. And possibly your appearance.

It is not just me, I have more dates in a month than an average guy in a year, and I assure you there is nothing wrong with my appearance!! I knew someone would have come out with an answer like this, just so pathetic....
I just can't stand women who play with guys because we let them behave like this (still referring to the desperate guys who will take anything from a woman in order to get her). I am a very sensitive guy (and nowadays this is seen as a very negative thing) and like to put things clear and espress my feelings very openly, however I reckon that the more you show to a woman you care about her, the more she feels she can manipulate you the way she wants. I am not only talking for personal experience, because I am sure many other guys out there think the same way as me. With this I don't mean to say that all women are bad, I am sure "Ms. Right" is out there waiting for me.....but she knows how to hide very well

About the "Being proud of scoring a guy in a club" IT IS NOT the same thing if a woman does it or a man does it. With this I don't want to say that if a man sleeps with many women he is a playboy and when a woman sleeps with different men she is a whore. But remember that the 90% of the times is the man who has to make the first move, and for many shy guys this is seen as something risky and embarassing because are afraid of rejections and can impact their confidence. For a woman, even if very shy, this is much easier...she just needs to wait for a guy to come on to her and chat her up, and as I said before even if a woman is damn ugly she can still hope to meet a decent enough guy.

banquo

its sooo temtpting to ask if ur weekend went ok...

The Sweeper

Originally posted by Coney Island
It is not just me, I have more dates in a month than an average guy in a year,

The statistics fairy strikes again!!

and I assure you there is nothing wrong with my appearance!!

Says you. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder...

I knew someone would have come out with an answer like this, just so pathetic....

It was more than one answer. And just because you don't like to hear that you're not managing your personal relationships well, doesn't mean I'm wrong. Though I agree with pathetic. I do a great pathetic. The whining, the begging, lifting one paw, I swear. I rock.

I just can't stand women who play with guys because we let them behave like this (still referring to the desperate guys who will take anything from a woman in order to get her).

So "we", and "the desparate blah blah" - all in one sentence, so you're referring to yourself? The best looking desperado out there?

I am a very sensitive guy

A sensitive bloke wouldn't have called me pathetic... sniffle...

(and nowadays this is seen as a very negative thing) and like to put things clear and espress my feelings very openly, however I reckon that the more you show to a woman you care about her, the more she feels she can manipulate you the way she wants.

Yeah!! VAGINA WIELDING OPPRESSORS!!

I am not only talking for personal experience, because I am sure many other guys out there think the same way as me.

Are you paying the statistics fairy for this flagrant abuse of her time?

With this I don't mean to say that all women are bad, I am sure "Ms. Right" is out there waiting for me.....but she knows how to hide very well

I'd hide too tbh...

About the "Being proud of scoring a guy in a club" IT IS NOT the same thing if a woman does it or a man does it. With this I don't want to say that if a man sleeps with many women he is a playboy and when a woman sleeps with different men she is a whore.

But you will anyway?

But remember that the 90% of the times is the man who has to make the first move,

And if that first move ended in him scoring, isn't that a result? Per se?

and for many shy guys this is seen as something risky and embarassing because are afraid of rejections and can impact their confidence.

I thought your point was that he didn't get rejected because she scored.

For a woman, even if very shy, this is much easier...

In your MIGHTY opinion.

she just needs to wait for a guy to come on to her and chat her up, and as I said before even if a woman is damn ugly she can still hope to meet a decent enough guy.

You sir, are an ass.

Coney Island

Originally posted by robbb_mm
its sooo temtpting to ask if ur weekend went ok...

Ha ha that's funny.
No problem, I can answer this: I went out only saturday night and I didn't meet anyone special, and I went home on my own. I hope I have answered your question

Having said that I give another opportunity to some of the ladies out their to keep bitching about me on this thread.... Come on, kill me!

The Sweeper

Originally posted by Coney Island
out their

out there - "their" indicates possession. Maybe I will kill you. The grammatical ability of the average boards user will rise by approximately - oh, FIVE PERCENT!!

(If you can abuse the statistics fairy, why can't I?)

Coney Island

Originally posted by Minesajackdaniels
The statistics fairy strikes again!!


Says you. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder...


It was more than one answer. And just because you don't like to hear that you're not managing your personal relationships well, doesn't mean I'm wrong. Though I agree with pathetic. I do a great pathetic. The whining, the begging, lifting one paw, I swear. I rock.


So "we", and "the desparate blah blah" - all in one sentence, so you're referring to yourself? The best looking desperado out there?


A sensitive bloke wouldn't have called me pathetic... sniffle...


Yeah!! VAGINA WIELDING OPPRESSORS!!


Are you paying the statistics fairy for this flagrant abuse of her time?


I'd hide too tbh...


But you will anyway?


And if that first move ended in him scoring, isn't that a result? Per se?


I thought your point was that he didn't get rejected because she scored.


In your MIGHTY opinion.


You sir, are an ass.

It looks like you really took your time to answer all my points, I appreciate the effort...is this because you recognise yourself in this profile? Don't worry, you have no reason to hide from me...I would never go with a girl like you anyway.
Now go home, wear your pink dress, get drunk and go playing men hunting with your friends.....you may be tonight's winner....

Coney Island

Originally posted by Minesajackdaniels
out there - "their" indicates possession. Maybe I will kill you. The grammatical ability of the average boards user will rise by approximately - oh, FIVE PERCENT!!

(If you can abuse the statistics fairy, why can't I?)

My mistake, I admit this. I just didn't take my time to double check my answer before posting it. The fact that you wanted to highlight this makes me think that your frustration is growing......

5% ? are you kidding? Do one user represent the 5% of the board members? God, you are also bad at maths...

The Sweeper

Originally posted by Coney Island
Do one user ...

That should read "does one user". That's okay though. I wont hold it against you. Not even with a barge pole.

Coney Island

Originally posted by Minesajackdaniels
That should read "does one user". That's okay though. I wont hold it against you. Not even with a barge pole.

:mad: :mad: :mad:

Seraphina

Coney give up, you're making a stupidly generalised post and Majd will beat you down after every idiotic comment

embee

I want a lifetime supply of cheese, some gin and playthings.

We arent that complicated.

Squall

You might as well be flicking bread pellets into a black hole, for all the good it will do you.

Rofl. Great line gotta use that sometime

Karma

Stop going to clubs to pick up girls. Go have fun instead, of chasing girls and trying to be yourself at the same time. This does not work for many people(guys and girls).

I found that being comfortable with who you are, helps with your interaction with other HUMAN beings(Say no to dogs).

Do you get on well with women around you -friends and/or co-workers ?
This is important, so be honest.

Different people are attracted to different things, so what do you like in a woman? besides low standards and a bad taste in men?

If you are yourself, then there is nothing to lose by talking to Women in clubs( BTW which classy establisments would the hunting grounds be?)

Attitude???
Dont have one, be yerself and be nice- F$*k'em if they dont like you for being you-dont waste yer time with them.

Go out with friends and be nice, they have female friends and you will meet. (unless you are the "GUY" all the girls are warned about)

oh dog, could go on forever about this but no.

BTW, out of all those dates you have every month, what happens that there is more new dates every month?
Answer this first and it MIGHT be a step to answering your question( of course you could ask the woman what she wants[ a dictaphone would be good for this ] )
What do you want?

Cheeers
DotC

love this. no really i do
Seraphina
Coney give up, you're making a stupidly generalised post and Majd will beat you down after every idiotic comment

NO SAINTS HERE.

blondie83

Chocolate, and lots of it!:D

Coney Island

Originally posted by Seraphina
Coney give up, you're making a stupidly generalised post and Majd will beat you down after every idiotic comment

This isn't a thread about english grammar, and as she is a moderator she shouldn't keep posting answers which have nothing to do with our topic of conversation.

Plus, she never answered my question whether she sees herself in some of the points I described.....I bet you she plays the part of the ugly friend

Lainey

ahh... it's nice to be nice coney..

only thing i can see here is how comes all the women you meet are like this.. you say your a fairly good looking guy, do you tend to stick to the best looking woman you can find??? i can't understand how every woman you meet can be so negative?????????????????????

Coney Island

Originally posted by RogueDotC
Stop going to clubs to pick up girls. Go have fun instead, of chasing girls and trying to be yourself at the same time. This does not work for many people(guys and girls).

I found that being comfortable with who you are, helps with your interaction with other HUMAN beings(Say no to dogs).

Do you get on well with women around you -friends and/or co-workers ?
This is important, so be honest.

Different people are attracted to different things, so what do you like in a woman? besides low standards and a bad taste in men?

If you are yourself, then there is nothing to lose by talking to Women in clubs( BTW which classy establisments would the hunting grounds be?)

Attitude???
Dont have one, be yerself and be nice- F$*k'em if they dont like you for being you-dont waste yer time with them.

Go out with friends and be nice, they have female friends and you will meet. (unless you are the "GUY" all the girls are warned about)

oh dog, could go on forever about this but no.

BTW, out of all those dates you have every month, what happens that there is more new dates every month?
Answer this first and it MIGHT be a step to answering your question( of course you could ask the woman what she wants[ a dictaphone would be good for this ] )
What do you want?

Cheeers
DotC

love this. no really i do
Seraphina
Coney give up, you're making a stupidly generalised post and Majd will beat you down after every idiotic comment

NO SAINTS HERE.

I am always being myself, and I get on well with my friends-girls and they really have a good opinion about me, especially when they get to know me well. I wanna say it once more, my points in this thread were not only the outcome of some personal experience, many other guys have the same ideas and opinions about women as I do. The problem is that we can't do without them, me included.

As for my dates, I never said that they turn out to be bad, but in the long run I become very picky and look at every little detail and behaviour of a girl....I couldn't date someone only for the sake of it.

We all know it is better to meet women in other places rather than a nite club, and I agree with that, although in the past I met most of my ex girlfriends in nite clubs.....the point is that I don't like to take it too fast, I prefer getting to know a girl before something happens, but for some reason when you meet a girl in a club and you don't make a move the same night most of them think that either you don't like them or that you are shy (and therefore lack of self confidence) or gay....

Coney Island

Originally posted by Lainey
ahh... it's nice to be nice coney..

only thing i can see here is how comes all the women you meet are like this.. you say your a fairly good looking guy, do you tend to stick to the best looking woman you can find??? i can't understand how every woman you meet can be so negative?????????????????????

No, I don't tend to stick with the best looking woman I can find, I am not too demanding when it comes to look (I mean, she has to be cute, but not necessarily model looking!)...but it is important that a woman behaves politely and is smart, reliable, funny, intelligent, etc....i don't see many around.

If it was only about look I believe there are many good looking girls around....

Dave

While I agree with most of what MAJD has said, correcting spelling and grammar on an internet forum is very petty to be honest.

The Sweeper

Yup, that's me, the petty, pink-dress wearing, ugly-friend-part playing howler. I'm just one of those contrary women who doesn't know what she thinks she wants and gets what he thinks she wants to get.

Perhaps it's my own considerable shortcomings that have created this blinkered outlook I have on this thread. No matter how I look at it, I just can't seem to empathise with the guy who gets "more dates in a month than the average guy gets in a year", who believes that "she has to be cute, but not necessarily model looking!" (how accommodating!!) and who stands by the belief that "even if a woman is damn ugly she can still hope to meet a decent enough guy".

Maybe I should worship this messiah, and pay homage to he who bringeth the good news that there's hope for all of us, even the ugly.

Anyway, the only reason I correct grammar is that I have this kinky schoolteacher sideline running two nights a week to raise money so I can go "men hunting" with my friends.

I am woman. Hear me roar. Arf-teeheehee.

Coney Island

Originally posted by Minesajackdaniels
Yup, that's me, the petty, pink-dress wearing, ugly-friend-part playing howler. I'm just one of those contrary women who doesn't know what she thinks she wants and gets what he thinks she wants to get.

Perhaps it's my own considerable shortcomings that have created this blinkered outlook I have on this thread. No matter how I look at it, I just can't seem to empathise with the guy who gets "more dates in a month than the average guy gets in a year", who believes that "she has to be cute, but not necessarily model looking!" (how accommodating!!) and who stands by the belief that "even if a woman is damn ugly she can still hope to meet a decent enough guy".

Maybe I should worship this messiah, and pay homage to he who bringeth the good news that there's hope for all of us, even the ugly.

Anyway, the only reason I correct grammar is that I have this kinky schoolteacher sideline running two nights a week to raise money so I can go "men hunting" with my friends.

I am woman. Hear me roar. Arf-teeheehee.

When I post a message the last thing I want is to have somebody taking it personal, I had nothing against you until you started attacking me, I said about 5 times that my observations were not only outcomes of my personal experience.

Would you have a relationship with the first guy you meet? Are you blaming me for being demandig? I know there are thousand of guys who are much better than I am, but this does not mean that I need to take what they leave behind....

Explosive_Cornflake

Originally posted by Barbie_666
Coney, sorry 2 break it to you, but you'll never understand us!!!
Women are from venus, men from mars etc.etc.etc..........:)

Or omicron persia 7, and omicron persia 9

amp

I like this thread.

Beruthiel

Originally posted by Coney Island
Hey, can anyone explain why when you date a girl, whatever you do is wrong?
Case 1:If you show that you care about her and that you love her, then she freaks out because "she is not ready for a relationship (with you!)" .......
Case 2:If you try to take it easy and just have a good time together then she blames you that you don't love her and you don't care about her and that you are only after sex.
Does this make sense? What are men suppose to do? :-)

Also, all women seems to be complaining about drunken guys they get chat up by in night clubs, and then they are more likely to reject a sober guy rather than a drunk one when he makes a move....that's another mistery. And what about women complaining about drunken guys and the they hang out at the weekend and they completely pissed? Even more confusing...

I haven’t seen such sweeping generalizations in a long time (well, since last week) Do you know every woman on the planet? Or are you just making stuff up as you go along? Could it be that you’re not doing too well on the relationships front and have become bitter because it’s not you so it must be them?
from your comments on this thread alone it is clear to me that you are not in fact the nice, sensitive guy that you make yourself out to be perhaps if you looked a little deeper into that you might get somewhere.

Threads like this one are never started by a man who is a decent, happy individual, who is confident in his own skin and who knows how to behave and treat the people he encounters be they male or female

p2p

Gonna give you some advice that has worked for me.

Rule # 1 - The 3 second rule.

When you're in a club and you see a girl you like give yourself
3 seconds from the point you make eye contact to approach her.

Blokes usually stare at girls they like for most of the night and end up
a.) talking themselves out of approaching her
b.) making the girl think he's a freak/stalker etc

If you follow the 3 second rule, you havnt time to be hesitant
Fear of rejection does not have time to manifest itself.

Rule #2 - Texting is weak.

When you meet a nice girl out, NEVER text her to set up a second date
or tell her "thanks for a great night" after the club.

THis lowers a girls interest straight away and shows that you're too
weak or just not bothered enough to actually call the girl.

Always ring the girl, keep the conversation short and lively and do not
prolong it. Your mission is to agree a date and time for the next meeting
not to chat about the night you met and definitely not to mention that you
fancy her.

Rule #3 - Dont tell your life story

Ok, you got the second date, worst thing you can do now is start telling her everything about yourself, how your dad never liked you, how your pet budgie
doesn't give you enough attention etc.

The key thing that builds attraction in the initial stages is mystery. The less she knows about you the more interesting and alluring you are. She sees it as a challenge to find out more about you. If you tell her everything in one go it ruins this sense of mystery.

Rule #4 - Dont mention "I love you"

These three words are very powerful. Once you utter them, they can have two effects. Two different situations below.

A.) The woman does not love you back but is just testing to see if she can have a little fun with you and manipulate you. THe only time it is safe to say it is if she has already said it, even then proceed with caution. If it is said too early, its game over for the girl and she will move on to the next challenge. May be a reason for that girl perceiving you as a "nice guy".

B.) You are married / In a long term relationship

Rule #5 - Avoid being a nice guy

Not to say be a pric.k to her but there is a fine line between cockyiness and confidence. Women are attracted to confident blokes. Not to say you should change your whole manner, and , like someone else posted its important to 'be yourself' but if you're doing this in a nice guy way you gotta change it.

This might all sound like crap to a lot of people, but it appears to be true for me anyway. Comes from years of trying to impress women by being 'nice'. Suffice to say the results were dreadful.

Let me know how you get on anyway..

Lainey

such confidence.. fairly spot on though.. where i'd be concerned anyways

Cake Fiend

This thread needs to be moved to the Humour board.

dgarrad

I agree, this has become a bit of a joke!

But just to add my two cents'....

Men and women will never truly understand each other, just as any person will never really understand another person. But would you really want to? Personally I think the whole point of any relationship is getting to know the other person, their good and bad points, strengths, weaknesses, dreams, fears, etc. If you knew what your partner thought about any particular thing in advance that would spoil the fun and excitement of getting to know them. Of course during the whole 'getting to know you' stage of a relationship you might find that you're not right, but that doens't mean that the man/woman in question was leading you on, or was just in it for sex. If you really think that incompatible personalities isn't a huge part of why couples break up, then GROW UP! Most people aren't going to be overly concerned with a person's quirks, it's more than likely just the case that there was just no chemistry. But if you start making generalisations then, ie. "all blondes don't like me cause John/Jane didn't" then you're just making excuses and probably making people think you're a git!

I agree that a male/female translator woulc come in usefull sometimes, but it would remove all the passion from a relationship! Fear of the unknown is only natural, but it shouldn't stop you from trying to meet new people and getting to know them. After all, someone had to wonder 'what would happen if I insert this part of my body into this part of yours?", which just goes to show that the unknown can be REALLY good!

I think all any person can reasonably hope for is to build up and understanding of individual people, not of 'men and women'. If you can get to the point where you have a good understanding and appreciation of your partner's personality, then you'll find that all the little things that might have bugged you about dating inthe past won't bother you anymore. I'm a firm beleiver in the 'be yourself' philosophy, trying to change you you are to please someone else might make them happy, but not yourself.

So to generalise (wow, must be a first for this thread! ), don't try to understand men or women, it's as useless as trying to say what food tastes like. Each person is different, and it's these unique personalities that you have to try to understand.

Anyway, I reckon that's enough of that!

swiss

Originally posted by Coney Island:

No, I don't tend to stick with the best looking woman I can find, I am not too demanding when it comes to look (I mean, she has to be cute, but not necessarily model looking!)...but it is important that a woman behaves politely and is smart, reliable, funny, intelligent, etc....i don't see many around.

It's tragic that these good looking, smart, reliable, funny, intelligent women aren't running over each other trying to reach you. They must not exist!

Okay, that is probably a little glib, but you are making some sweeping generalisations here.

Shock, horror. There are women out there who will try to manipulate men who seem to like them, and flaunt their sex and sexuality in front of them for their own amusement and/or monetary gain.

Shock, horror. There are men out there who use women for sex. They will string them along with the idea that they will offer companionship, stability, marraige, love, whatever, but in the end will dump them whenever a 'hotter bird' comes along.

So who do we blame? Is everybody guilty? If you're about to argue that you are not one of these guys who would use a poor innocent girl for sex, (even though there are lots of guys who - as you put it - would sell thier mothers for that opportunity) then you also have to cede that there are women out there who do not act in the manner you've just described.

Let me expand and furthur theorise that for every tale you have of inconsistencies in a womans behaviour, there are equally many stories circulating amongst women about guys being too distant, too clingy, too nice, too much of an asshole etc etc. Factor in the assumption (your assertion) that women can afford to be pickier since "even if a woman is damn ugly she can still hope to meet a decent enough guy" and you can see why girls don't instantly rush at guys.

Don't get me wrong. I don't have a special insight into the mentality of women. However, sometimes I find guys just as perplexing. The only difference is that you probably don't really care about scoring the latter, and I don't care about scoring the former.

KlodaX

I think Coney should post a picture of himself ... then everyone can pass better judgement on him

penguinbloke

No, I don't tend to stick with the best looking woman I can find, I am not too demanding when it comes to look (I mean, she has to be cute, but not necessarily model looking!)...but it is important that a woman behaves politely and is smart, reliable, funny, intelligent, etc....i don't see many around.

Women know your place...:rolleyes: