Smoking Ban - who has broken it

Unexpected · 04-04-2004 05:54PM

Originally posted by Paddy20
Yeah, the stale beer smell is a real turn on:rolleyes:

P. :ninja:

Well if u smell stale beer in your local, think about it; The dust and filth in the air that you must be inhaling combined with smoke and stale beer is hardly the healthiest thing in the world now is it. Do you not think that means the pub itself is dirty and needs to be cleaned properly? Ever think about that no? :rolleyes:

Paddy20 · 04-04-2004 06:07PM

Unexpected,

It's the smell of stale beer coming out of peoples mouths that I am referring too. As an ex-smoker and ex-alcohol drinker :rolleyes: .

P. :ninja:

dazberry · 04-04-2004 06:14PM

Originally posted by Paddy20
Yeah, the stale beer smell is a real turn on:rolleyes:

Actually being serious for a minute I noticed something similar. Not so much stale beer tho' (where I was) but noticably the toilets that looked clean enough but smelled terrible. I guess the general smokey nature in the past had masked that.

D.

Edit/Addition

It's the smell of stale beer coming out of peoples mouths that I am referring too. As an ex-smoker and ex-alcohol drinker.

Very true (well for beer anyway). Also as someone who can't drink coffee - coffee breath is the worst (but like smoking I guess takers don't notice). PPL if you have your double grande mocka with rosemary and chocolate sprinkling, remember to eat the bloody mint afterwards. Thanks.

D.

sleepwalker · 04-04-2004 08:34PM

Very true (well for beer anyway). Also as someone who can't drink coffee - coffee breath is the worst (but like smoking I guess takers don't notice). PPL if you have your double grande mocka with rosemary and chocolate sprinkling, remember to eat the bloody mint afterwards. Thanks.

LOL ive been noticing this recently, well said !

dudara · 04-04-2004 09:02PM

what's terrible at the moment is the smell of stale fag smoke that's leeching out of all the furnishings in pubs. It'll clear up after a while but right now it's not the most pleasant of things.

With regard to the comment about bar staff choosing to work in a smoking pub, that's all well and fine, but wait until they develop a lung-related illness, and just wait for the lawsuits to come then. It has to be a blanket ban for it to work.

Ajnag · 04-04-2004 09:17PM

Originally posted by beardedchicken
1) that would make competition for jobs in smoking pubs more intense than non-smoking pubs

2) which is a form of coercion; poorer people would be forced into unhealthy environments because they pay better, which would have a knock-on effect on the health system

in a few months' time, you won't think anything of stepping outside for a cigrarette, it'll become as normal a part of the evening as going to the bathroom in pairs to reapply make up and bitch, or trying to come on to the lounge girls...

Did you not note I was suggesting hazmat suits as well?

But as to your points thats the way things currently are.Work in dangerous enviroment usually is higher waged.

In a few months time hopefully I wont be in this pit of regulation.

Unexpected · 04-04-2004 11:49PM

Originally posted by Paddy20
Unexpected,

It's the smell of stale beer coming out of peoples mouths that I am referring too. As an ex-smoker and ex-alcohol drinker :rolleyes: .

P. :ninja:

What about people with **** breath in general? And dont try tell me smokey breath people smell good. Enough of this outrage Paddy20.:rolleyes:

kano476 · 05-04-2004 12:52AM

BLAH BLAH BLAH WE ALL GONNA DIE. try tell somone with 10 pints in em not 2 light up. good luck my son.
if everyone was on acid then there would be no problem because you would have a hard time finding the pub in the first place so we would have to wander the streets in a multicoloured groovy daze. then there would be no need for fags.

Paddy20 · 05-04-2004 02:16AM

Unexpected,

Its those damned - silent farters - . That really get up my nose :eek: .

The worst thing is it is impossible too tell who it is. Now what are we going to do about them selfish ignorant uncaring polluters ?...

P. :ninja:

BKtje · 05-04-2004 02:51AM

Fortunately Paddy they arent directly shortening your life span while farting which of course is the main issue here.

neXus9 · 05-04-2004 04:42AM

Originally posted by Kazu
Say you were on a night out at a busy pub you went out for a somke and tryed to go back in and the bouncers say there full and not letting anyone in

fcuk the smoking ban there should be smoking pubs and none smoking pubs

while all nightclubs should be non smoking

As I said in another thread:

A non smoking pub wouldn't work since everyone has friends that smoke (it would cause social segregation). Smokers are not going to bother going to a pub if they can't smoke, unless it's their only choice. Non smoking pubs would lose money because all the smokers would kick up a fuss, and we would either have to break the whole group up into the smokers and non smokers section (which is hardly going to happen) or have to endure the smoke. A lot of people would not bother because they would be losing out in a lot of friends. There wouldn't be equel amounts of pubs for each preference, and all in all it would be just too messy.

An all out ban was the only solution.

castie · 05-04-2004 05:57AM

non-smoking pubs and smoking pubs????
thats the stupidest idea ive ever heard of, and who decides which pub actually is which and what happens if th evinters federation just decide
lets all pick to be smoking bars, no pub is going to say ah sure we will be the non smoking bar as they know very wel they will loose out on alot of business to the smoking bars unless someone out there wants to go tell some publicans that they have been chosen to be one of the few non smoking bars in ireland and you thought telling a guy with 10 pints to stop smoking was frightening gimme a break!

SantaHoe · 05-04-2004 06:22AM

Originally posted by B-K-DzR
they arent directly shortening your life span while farting

Methane poisoning I tell ye'.

RossFixxxed · 05-04-2004 08:16AM

So there, we have figured out, go back to bed Ireland, your government has figured out how it all transpired. Go back to bed Ireland, you government is in control again. Here, here's American Gladiators. Watch this, shut up! Go back to bed Ireland, here's American Gladiators. Here's 56 channels of it. Watch these pituitary retards bang their ****in skulls together and congratulate you on living in the land of freedom. Here you go Ireland, you are free, to do as we tell you, you are free, to do as we tell you.

Ponster · 05-04-2004 09:42AM

Ahhh, nothing like a little Bill Hicks to start off the day

RossFixxxed · 05-04-2004 10:00AM

Shut up baby, I know it! :cool:

one-angry-dwarf · 05-04-2004 12:25PM

Originally posted by Paddy20
halkar,

DONEGAL, of course. In the real old [Wild North West] Where freedom of the spirit and the individual still reigns supreme, and is respected.

It's such a pity the right to not be poisoned by some childish selfish smoker isn't respected.

Bottom line: You have the right to smoke. I have the right to breathe fresh air. My right is more important since it doesnt harm you at all. There is no argument against the smoking ban.

uberwolf · 05-04-2004 12:37PM

Originally posted by Kazu

fcuk the smoking ban there should be smoking pubs and none smoking pubs

imagine now that you're looking for a job.

q. are you willing to work in this smokey environment.
a. no
q. we'll call you...

Johnny Versace · 05-04-2004 12:44PM

I broke it on Saturday night in Capital bar. I was locked and simply forgot about the ban.

The strange thing is I hadn't had a smoke for about 2 years.

Paddy20 · 05-04-2004 01:03PM

Johnny Versace,

Yes, strange isn't it. Here I am not having had a cigarette for almost 5 years, or a drop of alcohol for around 12 years.

Yet, now I am getting very strong compulsive episodes when all I want to do is get some fags and go to a Pub and get legless on spirits while smoking away until I drop.

What is happening

?...

P. :ninja: Note, maybe it is that old anti-establishment anti-authority rebellious nature, thats re-emerging in me :dunno: .

Dustaz · 05-04-2004 01:19PM

Im confused. The militant non-smokers here are saying they have the right to a non-smoking atmosphere and will report people for breaking that right anywhere they see it, for fear of an instant coronary.

Yet they are also saying that smoking AND non-smoking pubs wont work because "ah, sure we will end up going to the smoking pubs to keep the peace"

Err, Courage of your convictions?

uberwolf · 05-04-2004 01:22PM

thankfully worker health concerns have prevented this weekly torment and being torn between better bitumen lining than many county councils can provide and their mates.

RossFixxxed · 05-04-2004 01:38PM

Now we can all wear our jogging gear complete with sweatbands, nibble on our tofu on the way to the pub. And drink 15+ drinks, destroy our livers, dance on some poor guy's head til he has no teeth, but hey Ross isn't getting smoke near me!

Yayy! The government is dealing with the important issues! Yayy we're talking about the important issues. SMOKING! Talk about it? What's that about no jobs going? More road deaths this year WITH penalty points... SHUT UP SMOKING SMOKING, people like bitching about their clothes smelling! Here SMOOOOKING! It's evil! Like people eating fat!

Spiraling suicide rate??? SMOOOOKING!
Politicians nannying us to death (plastic bags ffs)??? SMOOOOKING!
Convicted rapists, paedos, murderers getting released to do it again??? SMOOOOOKING!
Millions nah billions being wasted on projects that should be FAR cheaper like the lua..... SMOOOOOKING! YEAH!

What's that? A political point you want to make? Shut up, stop smoooooking, it's evil. You're the devil. SMOOOOOKING BAN!! Are you talking about it yet?

Doctor J · 05-04-2004 01:46PM

Originally posted by RossFixxxed
Now we can all wear our jogging gear complete with sweatbands, nibble on our tofu on the way to the pub. And drink 15+ drinks, destroy our livers, dance on some poor guy's head til he has no teeth, but hey Ross isn't getting smoke near me!

Yayy! The government is dealing with the important issues! Yayy we're talking about the important issues. SMOKING! Talk about it? What's that about no jobs going? More road deaths this year WITH penalty points... SHUT UP SMOKING SMOKING, people like bitching about their clothes smelling! Here SMOOOOKING! It's evil! Like people eating fat!

Spiraling suicide rate??? SMOOOOKING!
Politicians nannying us to death (plastic bags ffs)??? SMOOOOKING!
Convicted rapists, paedos, murderers getting released to do it again??? SMOOOOOKING!
Millions nah billions being wasted on projects that should be FAR cheaper like the lua..... SMOOOOOKING! YEAH!

What's that? A political point you want to make? Shut up, stop smoooooking, it's evil. You're the devil. SMOOOOOKING BAN!! Are you talking about it yet?

Use your vote wisely.

RossFixxxed · 05-04-2004 01:49PM

Use your vote wisely.

Are you smoking yet?

TacT · 05-04-2004 01:54PM

Who knew the nanny state voted into power was going to enforce a smoking ban before they voted? Hands up now please.

Shouldn't be too long before we're told which side of the street to be walking on...

Doctor J · 05-04-2004 01:55PM

No, I didn't smoke before and I'm not going to start now. I think the workplace smoking ban is the only good thing this government has done.

I want rid of them, hence, I shall use my vote and perhaps work on behalf of my party of choice when the time comes, rather than just whine about FF on the internet. You know, actually do something about the whole situation.

DapperGent · 05-04-2004 01:58PM

Originally posted by one-angry-dwarf
Bottom line: You have the right to smoke. I have the right to breathe fresh air. My right is more important since it doesnt harm you at all. There is no argument against the smoking ban.

Bottom line: Everyone is equal but you're more equal than others right?

If everyone who is in a smoky enviroment chooses of their own free will (with the availability of clean air alternatives) to be in that enviroment, who the fuck are you tell them they can't?

uberwolf · 05-04-2004 01:58PM

Originally posted by TacT

Shouldn't be too long before we're told which side of the street to be walking on...

We're already told what side of the road to drive on and we all know how badly that worked out

TacT · 05-04-2004 01:59PM

DoctorJ you're telling us to exercise our vote, it seems only fair you tell me - Did anybody know what this nanny state was going to do before they were voted into power - to take a small example - the smoking ban? let's say for a minute we did, do you think we would have voted for them?

Funny you should mentiont that uberwolf, I was mightily entertained while cycling down the dual carriageway last week only to see some absolute twonk take a right out of a T-junction and straight up the wrong side of the road and amidst the beeping/shouting/laughing the poor punter still didn't see what all the fuss was about until he noticed every other car facing the other way to him!

Smoking Ban - who has broken it

Comments