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Smoking Ban - who has broken it

  • 04-04-2004 11:25am
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,655 ✭✭✭


    Well me for one - was out last night and I did light up in he pub I was in - did anyone complain - nope: did anyone else light up - nope

    funny that, was sure the smoking police would come in and beat me down with herbal baths and deep cleansers - oh well must have been a rumour then :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,349 ✭✭✭ErinGoBrath


    Originally posted by Ph3n0m
    Well me for one - was out last night and I did light up in he pub I was in

    Wow, your so brave for breaking the law.

    This country needs more fantastic people like you :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,655 ✭✭✭Ph3n0m


    Originally posted by ErinGoBrath
    Wow, your so brave for breaking the law.

    This country needs more fantastic people like you :rolleyes:

    oh no the sarcasm, the horror, the cheapness of it all :rolleyes:


    was just curious has anyone seen or actually broken the smoking ban - thats all - if you want to get nasty - go f**k a sheep :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,758 ✭✭✭Peace


    Originally posted by Ph3n0m
    Well me for one - was out last night and I did light up in he pub I was in - did anyone complain - nope: did anyone else light up - nope

    funny that, was sure the smoking police would come in and beat me down with herbal baths and deep cleansers - oh well must have been a rumour then :)

    What are you 12 years old...bragging about breaking the smoking ban.... my oh my... what a big man you are.:rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,797 ✭✭✭Paddy20


    Most of the Entertainment establishments and Public houses in my home town appear too be completely ignoring the ban :) Along with the local citizenry. There again the people from these here parts of Ireland have minds of their own, and also hate Authoritarianism of any sort.

    P. :ninja:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,034 ✭✭✭Rock Climber


    I've been out the last three nights and the air was so fresh.
    My clothes are so fresh.
    This ban is bloody great it's working :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,349 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    Yep, I was out in town (Dublin) last night and was surprised by how well it work. I went to three different pubs and one nightclub and didn't see anyone smoke at all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,046 ✭✭✭Dustaz


    I was in a late bar the other night and as it was serving late illegally, everyone was smoking
    It was fantastic. After a night of painful smoking in the rain, we ended up in a bar that was serving late. Well over 50% of the customers were smoking leaving the smoke nazis in a difficult conundrum - Report the smoking and end the illegal late drinking or leave because at any second they could contract lung cancer. INCREDIBLY, they chose to stay and have a great time.


    Also, interesting to note people calling other people '12 year olds' for 'gloating' about breaking the ban, when there are posters in our midst who gleefully post the Report-a-Smoker number and would happily ring it themselves based on hearsay, not actually witnessing the events.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 590 ✭✭✭herbie747


    Originally posted by Ph3n0m
    Well me for one - was out last night and I did light up in he pub I was in - did anyone complain - nope: did anyone else light up - nope

    funny that, was sure the smoking police would come in and beat me down with herbal baths and deep cleansers - oh well must have been a rumour then :)

    Smoking is still allowed in The George, that's why.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,046 ✭✭✭Dustaz


    Originally posted by herbie747
    Smoking is still allowed in The George, that's why.

    If only it was, I'd convert like a flash ;)


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Originally posted by Dustaz
    I was in a late bar the other night and as it was serving late illegally, everyone was smoking

    Hmmm,
    I can counter that by saying I was in a bar serving illegally untill the small hours and not a cig in sight.
    I'd have no hesitation reporting both offences tbh but I'd report the smoking one first and probably get amnesia on the other :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,046 ✭✭✭Dustaz


    Originally posted by Earthman
    Hmmm,
    I can counter that by saying I was in a bar serving illegally untill the small hours and not a cig in sight.
    I'd have no hesitation reporting both offences tbh but I'd report the smoking one first and probably get amnesia on the other :)


    Nice, so its alright to break one law, but not another?

    Also, i think you need to read up on how a fine is actually imposed.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,797 ✭✭✭Paddy20


    Earthman,

    Quote; " In a bar serving illegally until the small hours and not a cig in sight " :D Sorry but I simply cannot bring myself too believe you -
    Do you think we all just got off the boat ?...

    From an {Ex-smoker}of many years.

    P. :ninja: :eek: [ Hey Mister ?... gis a fag, aah gwan.]


  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 15,001 ✭✭✭✭Pepe LeFrits


    rebels with a cause, fight the power smokers!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,378 ✭✭✭halkar


    Originally posted by Paddy20
    Most of the Entertainment establishments and Public houses in my home town appear too be completely ignoring the ban :) Along with the local citizenry. There again the people from these here parts of Ireland have minds of their own, and also hate Authoritarianism of any sort.

    P. :ninja:

    Paddy, where is this place? Sounds like a good place to retire early :D and die in peace :p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,797 ✭✭✭Paddy20


    halkar,

    DONEGAL, of course. In the real old [Wild North West] Where freedom of the spirit and the individual still reigns supreme, and is respected.

    Obviously, the exact location of my particular home town must remain a secret ;) .

    P. :ninja:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,522 ✭✭✭Dr. Loon


    Originally posted by Ph3n0m
    Well me for one - was out last night and I did light up in he pub I was in - did anyone complain - nope: did anyone else light up - nope

    funny that, was sure the smoking police would come in and beat me down with herbal baths and deep cleansers - oh well must have been a rumour then :)

    I would've told you to put it out ye wanker. I'm a smoker and I'm not stepping outside in the rain all night to have a smoke while prícks like you break the law. If you didn't put it out on my insistence I would've told the bar staff to eject you or else I'd report them.

    In my local my mates were sitting having a drink and some arséhole lit up. A smoker friend of mine freaked at the guy and told him to put it out for the reasons above. He did.

    Cop on you twat.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,758 ✭✭✭Peace


    Originally posted by Dr. Loon
    I would've told you to put it out ye wanker. I'm a smoker and I'm not stepping outside in the rain all night to have a smoke while prícks like you break the law. If you didn't put it out on my insistence I would've told the bar staff to eject you or else I'd report them.

    In my local my mates were sitting having a drink and some arséhole lit up. A smoker friend of mine freaked at the guy and told him to put it out for the reasons above. He did.

    Cop on you twat.

    Seems perfectly reasonable to me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,010 ✭✭✭littleninja


    Hope it made you feel like a big man smoking in the pub when the ban was in place Ph3n0m....... you sure as hell did a great job making yourself look like a twat on boards admitting you had broken the ban.

    There were a few people smoking in a pub I was in last night, they were told to get out or put out their cigarettes, one lad put out the cigarette, the other lad was forcibly removed VERY quickly by about 6 huge bouncers with his mates looking on.

    Wouldn't mind but there was a marquee provided out the back of the pub where smokers could go if they wanted to have a quick smoke, it's not as if they would have been out in the rain or anything.

    I smoke myself and the only cigarette I had all night was one that I got off some fella outside a pub, I was waiting for mates so I just smoked it whilst I waited for them to turn up, went in and had a brilliant night's craic without coming home without stinking of fags (which was a nice change). At the start of the night I was gasping for a cigarette but once I got dancing that all went out the window and I had a great night.

    I don't see the point in breaking the ban myself, it has been made law so there isn't much we can do about it. If you wanna smoke bring it outside, a lot of pubs will more than likely supply somewhere for people to smoke anyway because they don't want to lose business.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,758 ✭✭✭Peace


    Also i think the pubs that take advantage of it will benefit the most. Come winter when the nights are wet and miserable and sometimes 0deg C people will be royaly pissed off standing out in it.

    If the manager invests a small bit of money in an outdoor heater and a small shelter i would believe that more buisiness would come his/her way.

    Silver lining.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,378 ✭✭✭halkar


    Originally posted by Paddy20
    halkar,

    DONEGAL, of course. In the real old [Wild North West] Where freedom of the spirit and the individual still reigns supreme, and is respected.

    Obviously, the exact location of my particular home town must remain a secret ;) .

    P. :ninja:

    Ok, me grabs my tent and cigs :D


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,309 ✭✭✭Kazu


    Say you were on a night out at a busy pub you went out for a somke and tryed to go back in and the bouncers say there full and not letting anyone in

    fcuk the smoking ban there should be smoking pubs and none smoking pubs


    while all nightclubs should be non smoking


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,484 ✭✭✭✭Stephen


    *whine*


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55,571 ✭✭✭✭Mr E


    Originally posted by Kazu
    Say you were on a night out at a busy pub you went out for a somke and tryed to go back in and the bouncers say there full and not letting anyone in

    fcuk the smoking ban there should be smoking pubs and none smoking pubs


    while all nightclubs should be non smoking
    The smoking ban is for the STAFF, you f**king moron. (The fact that we go home after a night out without smelling like an ashtray, without a sore throat and without cancerous wear and tear in our lungs is a bonus). If we went with your 'argument' (smoking pubs and non-smoking pubs), should the staff in smoking pubs be issued with gasmasks? :rolleyes: Cop on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,367 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    If the staff are prepared to work there I don't see the problem in having smoking pubs. From personal experience, the majority of bar staff I've known were smokers.

    I know it's never gonna happen but just wanted to point out that it's something that could be organised...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 691 ✭✭✭Ajnag


    Originally posted by TmB
    If we went with your 'argument' (smoking pubs and non-smoking pubs), should the staff in smoking pubs be issued with gasmasks? :rolleyes: Cop on.

    Why not? If its as hazordous an Enviroment as ya make it out to be, then why not just deal with it like other people who work in the same conditions.Also staff in smokers pubs would be paid more, bet ya wouldnt complain bout that.But tbh id love to get served by some one waring a half life hazmat suit :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,276 ✭✭✭damnyanks


    I worked as a lounge boy. I developed a smokers cough. Never smoked in my life, think its fairly disgusting to be honest. I hate going out for 1 or 2 and coming home smelling of smoke!

    For years smokers would say if it bothers you just step outside. Well tough titties the role has been reversed, now go stand outside in the rain! Go take some cocaine or something... at least I wont leave smelling of something because you decide to get up to something.

    Greedy whore mongers


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 91 ✭✭Unexpected


    Originally posted by Ph3n0m
    Well me for one - was out last night and I did light up in he pub I was in - did anyone complain - nope: did anyone else light up - nope

    funny that, was sure the smoking police would come in and beat me down with herbal baths and deep cleansers - oh well must have been a rumour then :)

    You absolute loser.

    You are totally hardcore dudeeee.

    If anyone smokes near me in a pub, I will go mad. Really hate smoke. Pubs smell so much better without it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,797 ✭✭✭Paddy20


    Yeah, the stale beer smell is a real turn on:rolleyes:

    P. :ninja:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,484 ✭✭✭✭Stephen


    Its better than the combined smell of cigarettes and beer.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 735 ✭✭✭beardedchicken


    Originally posted by Ajnag
    Also staff in smokers pubs would be paid more, bet ya wouldnt complain bout that.

    1) that would make competition for jobs in smoking pubs more intense than non-smoking pubs

    2) which is a form of coercion; poorer people would be forced into unhealthy environments because they pay better, which would have a knock-on effect on the health system

    in a few months' time, you won't think anything of stepping outside for a cigrarette, it'll become as normal a part of the evening as going to the bathroom in pairs to reapply make up and bitch, or trying to come on to the lounge girls...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 91 ✭✭Unexpected


    Originally posted by Paddy20
    Yeah, the stale beer smell is a real turn on:rolleyes:

    P. :ninja:

    Well if u smell stale beer in your local, think about it; The dust and filth in the air that you must be inhaling combined with smoke and stale beer is hardly the healthiest thing in the world now is it. Do you not think that means the pub itself is dirty and needs to be cleaned properly? Ever think about that no? :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,797 ✭✭✭Paddy20


    Unexpected,

    It's the smell of stale beer coming out of peoples mouths that I am referring too. As an ex-smoker and ex-alcohol drinker :rolleyes: .

    P. :ninja:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,152 ✭✭✭dazberry


    Originally posted by Paddy20
    Yeah, the stale beer smell is a real turn on:rolleyes:

    Actually being serious for a minute I noticed something similar. Not so much stale beer tho' (where I was) but noticably the toilets that looked clean enough but smelled terrible. I guess the general smokey nature in the past had masked that.

    D.

    Edit/Addition
    It's the smell of stale beer coming out of peoples mouths that I am referring too. As an ex-smoker and ex-alcohol drinker.

    Very true (well for beer anyway). Also as someone who can't drink coffee - coffee breath is the worst (but like smoking I guess takers don't notice). PPL if you have your double grande mocka with rosemary and chocolate sprinkling, remember to eat the bloody mint afterwards. Thanks.

    D.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 436 ✭✭sleepwalker


    Very true (well for beer anyway). Also as someone who can't drink coffee - coffee breath is the worst (but like smoking I guess takers don't notice). PPL if you have your double grande mocka with rosemary and chocolate sprinkling, remember to eat the bloody mint afterwards. Thanks.

    LOL ive been noticing this recently, well said !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,518 ✭✭✭✭dudara


    what's terrible at the moment is the smell of stale fag smoke that's leeching out of all the furnishings in pubs. It'll clear up after a while but right now it's not the most pleasant of things.

    With regard to the comment about bar staff choosing to work in a smoking pub, that's all well and fine, but wait until they develop a lung-related illness, and just wait for the lawsuits to come then. It has to be a blanket ban for it to work.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 691 ✭✭✭Ajnag


    Originally posted by beardedchicken
    1) that would make competition for jobs in smoking pubs more intense than non-smoking pubs

    2) which is a form of coercion; poorer people would be forced into unhealthy environments because they pay better, which would have a knock-on effect on the health system

    in a few months' time, you won't think anything of stepping outside for a cigrarette, it'll become as normal a part of the evening as going to the bathroom in pairs to reapply make up and bitch, or trying to come on to the lounge girls...

    Did you not note I was suggesting hazmat suits as well?
    :)


    But as to your points thats the way things currently are.Work in dangerous enviroment usually is higher waged.

    In a few months time hopefully I wont be in this pit of regulation. ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 91 ✭✭Unexpected


    Originally posted by Paddy20
    Unexpected,

    It's the smell of stale beer coming out of peoples mouths that I am referring too. As an ex-smoker and ex-alcohol drinker :rolleyes: .

    P. :ninja:

    What about people with **** breath in general? And dont try tell me smokey breath people smell good. Enough of this outrage Paddy20.:rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 687 ✭✭✭kano476


    BLAH BLAH BLAH WE ALL GONNA DIE. try tell somone with 10 pints in em not 2 light up. good luck my son.
    if everyone was on acid then there would be no problem because you would have a hard time finding the pub in the first place so we would have to wander the streets in a multicoloured groovy daze. then there would be no need for fags.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,797 ✭✭✭Paddy20


    Unexpected,

    Its those damned - silent farters - . That really get up my nose :eek: .

    The worst thing is it is impossible too tell who it is. Now what are we going to do about them selfish ignorant uncaring polluters ?... :confused:

    P. :ninja:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,081 ✭✭✭BKtje


    Fortunately Paddy they arent directly shortening your life span while farting which of course is the main issue here.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 947 ✭✭✭neXus9


    Originally posted by Kazu
    Say you were on a night out at a busy pub you went out for a somke and tryed to go back in and the bouncers say there full and not letting anyone in

    fcuk the smoking ban there should be smoking pubs and none smoking pubs


    while all nightclubs should be non smoking

    As I said in another thread:

    A non smoking pub wouldn't work since everyone has friends that smoke (it would cause social segregation). Smokers are not going to bother going to a pub if they can't smoke, unless it's their only choice. Non smoking pubs would lose money because all the smokers would kick up a fuss, and we would either have to break the whole group up into the smokers and non smokers section (which is hardly going to happen) or have to endure the smoke. A lot of people would not bother because they would be losing out in a lot of friends. There wouldn't be equel amounts of pubs for each preference, and all in all it would be just too messy.

    An all out ban was the only solution.


  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 3,807 ✭✭✭castie


    non-smoking pubs and smoking pubs????
    thats the stupidest idea ive ever heard of, and who decides which pub actually is which and what happens if th evinters federation just decide
    lets all pick to be smoking bars, no pub is going to say ah sure we will be the non smoking bar as they know very wel they will loose out on alot of business to the smoking bars unless someone out there wants to go tell some publicans that they have been chosen to be one of the few non smoking bars in ireland and you thought telling a guy with 10 pints to stop smoking was frightening gimme a break!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,488 ✭✭✭SantaHoe


    Originally posted by B-K-DzR
    they arent directly shortening your life span while farting
    Methane poisoning I tell ye'.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,102 ✭✭✭RossFixxxed


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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,912 Mod ✭✭✭✭Ponster


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,102 ✭✭✭RossFixxxed


    Shut up baby, I know it! :cool:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 215 ✭✭one-angry-dwarf


    Originally posted by Paddy20
    halkar,

    DONEGAL, of course. In the real old [Wild North West] Where freedom of the spirit and the individual still reigns supreme, and is respected.

    It's such a pity the right to not be poisoned by some childish selfish smoker isn't respected.

    Bottom line: You have the right to smoke. I have the right to breathe fresh air. My right is more important since it doesnt harm you at all. There is no argument against the smoking ban.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,581 ✭✭✭uberwolf


    Originally posted by Kazu

    fcuk the smoking ban there should be smoking pubs and none smoking pubs

    imagine now that you're looking for a job.

    q. are you willing to work in this smokey environment.
    a. no
    q. we'll call you...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,166 ✭✭✭Johnny Versace


    I broke it on Saturday night in Capital bar. I was locked and simply forgot about the ban.

    The strange thing is I hadn't had a smoke for about 2 years.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,797 ✭✭✭Paddy20


    Johnny Versace,

    Yes, strange isn't it. Here I am not having had a cigarette for almost 5 years, or a drop of alcohol for around 12 years.

    Yet, now I am getting very strong compulsive episodes when all I want to do is get some fags and go to a Pub and get legless on spirits while smoking away until I drop.

    What is happening :confused: ?...

    P. :ninja: Note, maybe it is that old anti-establishment anti-authority rebellious nature, thats re-emerging in me :dunno: .


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