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ThreadKiller · 2004-02-18 11:45:58

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#32 18-02-2004 04:19PM

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Fair enough, no point in me arguing with that....

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#33 18-02-2004 04:36PM

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i dont like starbucks. its super-capatilism at its max. im all for competition, and i dont hate americans, but i was walkin past st. stephens green and i saw a bunch of lads looking exactly like parodys of 50 cents. when they spoke with their thick dublin accents, i thought, what a bunch of tits. granted its not the clothes that make the man, but lads come on, you just look stupid.

i find it ammusing that a few years back we had great fears of losing our culture as we became more integrated into europe, whereas now we lap up whatever the jt-dog or the fizzle shizzle in the hizzle says.

someone please start a clothing fad thats in the slightest bit original.

whats this got to do with starbucks? dunno. dont like it, id prefer to see us go closer to europe [which granted, has already or is getting starbucks] ... to be honest im just tired of american culture in general. its not a hate crime or racist, im just sick of all the makin love in the house, its gettin hot in here, hey britney, you say you want to lose control? Ben plank of wood Affleck. I'm lovin it! Microsoft, MTV... blah blah. starbucks is a part of that.

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#34 18-02-2004 04:50PM

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It's true, the entry of starbucks just means less choice, not more. In America, the number of starbucks is rediculous, one on every corner.

And I definitely agree with the previous posters. American culture is getting more and more bland each day. Hip-hop seems to lack any innovation whatsover (with the exception of Outkast). Hollywood movies suck, they just keep rehashing stuff over and over. They also summed up the clothing scene well in Friends - "Joey, you're wearing the same shirt as me". "Damn you Gap on every corner!".

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#35 18-02-2004 04:53PM

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Interesting that you chose to use an American series to make your point...
Anyway enough of the America bashing... bring on the coffee !!!

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#36 18-02-2004 05:06PM

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Besides, people do have a choice to voice any dissapproval they may have by not buying Starbucks coffee.

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#37 18-02-2004 05:16PM

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all this capitalist bashing is bull. Realising monopolistic status is why anyone starts up business, i.e. kill of the competition to enjoy bigger revenues, resultant bigger profits and richer shareholders. If the hippies dont like it buy some shares.

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#38 18-02-2004 05:29PM

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Originally posted by hedgetrimmer
Besides, people do have a choice to voice any dissapproval they may have by not buying Starbucks coffee.

Read previous post by padraigmyers: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?postid=1410318#post1410318

My god, where is that post blindness gathering card?

By the way, does anyone have a link for that onion article?

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#39 18-02-2004 05:32PM

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midget lord is right though... you don't get into business to only open one shop, you want to be as big & as powerful as you can...

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#40 18-02-2004 05:43PM

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id rather make my own coffee then spend stupid money on it

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#41 18-02-2004 05:50PM

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Cool, now the fickle flocks will stop spending crowding up and spending all their money in pubs, forcing the prices down and freeing up seats for the committed drinkers!

Can you smoke in Starbucks?

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#42 18-02-2004 07:33PM

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Originally posted by pickarooney

Can you smoke in Starbucks?

Staff are cleared to shoot smokers.

Mike.

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#43 18-02-2004 08:00PM

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Originally posted by padraigmyers
Threadkiller, its funny that you should ask why is anyone aginst Starbucks coming onto the country. I guess you don't
know much about their expansion stratgey. Anyway it go's a little like this:
Starbucks decide to move into a
new town which is capable of supporting about 20 coffee shops.....however Starbucks then put in 25-30 shops, they
place so competition into the area that over time all other coffee shops are forced to close because they are operating
at a loss, the Starbucks shops will also be operating at a loss at this stage, but that part of the plan. When all the other
coffee shops have closed down they then close the surplus outlets leaveing the 20 that would be viable. Thus you now
have nothing but Starbucks to go to. This isn't a big secret, its all well documented. Is this what you really want?

From what a I remeber from Junior Cert Business Studies, Loss-Leading is, and has been for many years, illegal in this country.
Will the governement step in?

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#44 18-02-2004 08:03PM

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never mind americas chain of coffee outlets

when we gonna get some of those Dutch ones eh?
someone should open one in temple bar in dublin
or down the claddagh in galway what do yeh think

are ye with me

yeahhhhhhh mannn

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#45 18-02-2004 08:20PM

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id support starbucks if they came here, i wouldnt mind a choclatey syrup cofee from time to time, i welcome theese american chains, im just holding out till i think its big, or else fat burger come over here, mabye both exist

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#46 18-02-2004 09:10PM

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Originally posted by Senor_Fudge
never mind americas chain of coffee outlets

when we gonna get some of those Dutch ones eh?
someone should open one in temple bar in dublin
or down the claddagh in galway what do yeh think

are ye with me

yeahhhhhhh mannn

Hey Senor_Fudge, get back on your rocker there man

Oh btw, I know it was mentioned to make your own coffee but does anyone find cafe coffee a lot nicer? I know I do

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#47 19-02-2004 02:38AM

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maybe if they offer free WiFi internet...

Call me old fashioned but I like the old world charm of Bewleys, one cup of coffee and you can stay for ages, none of this McDecor designed to get you out of the place ASAP.

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#48 19-02-2004 02:55AM

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It's better than the ****e they serve in O'Briens, of Kylemore.
If Starbucks means putting those places out of business, then I'm all for it to be honest.

That, and the prospect of White Chocolate Mochas... omfg, just cannot resist!

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#49 19-02-2004 09:38AM

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Originally posted by Capt'n Midnight
maybe if they offer free WiFi internet...

Call me old fashioned but I like the old world charm of Bewleys, one cup of coffee and you can stay for ages, none of this McDecor designed to get you out of the place ASAP.

Bewleys come out of a box, same as any other chain/franchise.

Starbucks you can stay all day if you want. On Sofas. With free papers. And free magazines. And music. (I think they have a rule of a purchase an hour, but I think that's fair)

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#50 19-02-2004 10:30AM

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Originally posted by Senor_Fudge
never mind americas chain of coffee outlets

when we gonna get some of those Dutch ones eh?
someone should open one in temple bar in dublin
or down the claddagh in galway what do yeh think

are ye with me

yeahhhhhhh mannn

i fully endorse this product or service. starbucks coming? goody! another target for may-day:)

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#51 19-02-2004 10:46AM

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Originally posted by ferdi
coming? goody! another target for may-day

Why ? What good does it serve ?

Big deal, you go out one day a year & "demonstrate" (i.e. throw a few rocks, make some noise & break some windows) in a feeble attempt to drive the "evil corporations" out.

You break their windows, they get them replaces by the "big bad evil glass corporation™" which gets paid for by the "big bad evil insurance corporation™", both of which have employees who go eat/drink at the "big bad FMCG corporation™" who get their windows broken once a year by the may day group....

You don't like them don't go to them, but I'll hazard a guess that they've more customers than you've got demonstrators...

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#52 19-02-2004 11:09AM

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Originally posted by midget lord
all this capitalist bashing is bull. Realising monopolistic status is why anyone starts up business, i.e. kill of the competition to enjoy bigger revenues, resultant bigger profits and richer shareholders. If the hippies dont like it buy some shares.

Capitalisim bashing was not really my point. Of course its in the interest of Starbucks to more bigger profit and monopilise their market. My point was "Is that good for us?". They are going to use their weight as a massive company to force smaller vendors out of business. I wasn't really making a judgement call. Threadkiller was asking why some people might be aginst Starbucks coming to Ireland, I was just giving him an answer. Its up to you to decide if whats good for Starbucks is good for us. Its not a hippie ideal, I think you'll find that having competition in a market is really a capitalist ideal, what I was asking is, do you think a Starbucks monoply in Irealand (like they have in most places in the states) would be a good thing?

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#53 19-02-2004 12:32PM

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only in starbucks once, near battery park in new york for a quick bite and coffee before we headed off to do the whole statue of liberty thing. it was fine apart from the generally small amount of toilets in it.

seen them over in england during the summer and saw them and wondered why they weren't here but here they come, fine with me look forward to these white choclate thingsy mentioned

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#54 19-02-2004 01:28PM

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I wish you could get KFC after a night out in Dublin.

Miss hillbilly's in cork.

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