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Raise the drinking age to 21

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  • #62
    inaccessibleisl
    Closed Accounts Posts: 112 ✭✭inaccessibleisl


    Fukinell, There are some real gems here. I can't believe some of the posts here.
    "Why not lower the drinking age to 16, there are 16 yr olds drinking anyway"
    Murciful Jeesis :rolleyes:, I once agrued that point. When I was 16/17. You'll understand when your in your earlymid 20's +, the people who consistently have the money, the people who are far less likely to start trouble (yes I f*ckin know people in their 20's fight), people who enjoy a quite night out once a week, these people wouldn't go to the pubs. The Pubs business would drop dramatically if 16yr olds were all over he place, acting (obviously) immaturely.
    Don't even bother saying that young gangs of people don't keep the older crowd from pubs. I've seen it with 4-5 pubs in the last year, the gangs of youths freshly 18 find somewhere were they can inhabit and stay there. The locals leave as it's uncomfortable around these babbling little twits and business suffers. Months later a blanket ban for the young uns and back come the ex-locals again and business and reputation improves again.
    Now could you imagine 16yr olds!! Ffs get a grip will ye?


  • #63
    seamus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,173 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Originally posted by inaccessibleisl
    Don't even bother saying that young gangs of people don't keep the older crowd from pubs. I've seen it with 4-5 pubs in the last year, the gangs of youths freshly 18 find somewhere were they can inhabit and stay there. The locals leave as it's uncomfortable around these babbling little twits and business suffers. Months later a blanket ban for the young uns and back come the ex-locals again and business and reputation improves again.
    Now could you imagine 16yr olds!! Ffs get a grip will ye?
    That's taking a sidetrack from the whole issue. Whether or not it would ruin the enjoyment of pubs for older drinkers is irrelevant. Sometimes older drivers tend to ruin the experience of driving for me. Perhaps we should ban them from the roads?


  • #64
    GuanYin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 15,552 ✭✭✭✭GuanYin


    Originally posted by Imposter
    We'll have to dissagree here

    On some of the points, yup ;)
    Originally posted by Imposter
    I agree with you that there's a huge drink problem in Ireland but I think a lot of it is caused by the nannying. Allowing people to drink younger would move the problem to a place where it could be watched/controlled a lot better than in parks, fields or wherever. Extending opening hours would also solve a lot of problems in the long term. Even put a reasonable curfew (from pubs) on those under 18 if deemed neccessary. Ok initially people would go a bit mad but I would hope they would eventually come to their senses.

    I still wouldn't be in favour of lowering the age until the current situation was handled better. A curfew is something I thought would be a solution, but the biggest problem is the mass exodus at the end of the night. It wouldn't really solve anything.

    I still think offering people an equally viable alternative is phase one. Setting up some system of actually dealing with and deterring current offenders is phase two. Then start worrying about changing age limits and access. Longer opening hours is a must really and deregulation is the way to go. The current situation favours binge drinking. It won't go away over night, but people will be more likely to come and go of their own accord with deregulation, rather than the current trend of "in til the end".


  • #65
    Imposter
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    inaccessibleisl,

    Why is it obvoius that a 16yo would act immaturely? Surely the same attitude can be had by old men against the drinkers in their mid-20's? Should they get banned from drinking too!:dunno:


  • #66
    MrPinK
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    Originally posted by inaccessibleisl
    I've seen it with 4-5 pubs in the last year, the gangs of youths freshly 18 find somewhere were they can inhabit and stay there. The locals leave as it's uncomfortable around these babbling little twits and business suffers. Months later a blanket ban for the young uns and back come the ex-locals again and business and reputation improves again.
    Now could you imagine 16yr olds!! Ffs get a grip will ye?
    You really think if the age limit is lowered then all the pubs will be over run by 16 year olds? The best most of them can afford is 6 cans of Dutch Gold. I'm 21 and I can't afford to drink in pubs to regularly these days, especially since student nights and drinks promotions where banned.


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  • #67
    inaccessibleisl
    Closed Accounts Posts: 112 ✭✭inaccessibleisl


    Oh for fuks sake give me a break. 16yr olds are teenagers, kids. People in their 20's are adults. You could say the same about those in their 30's, people in their 40's think their immature, people in their 50's think those in thier 40's are blah blah blah.
    Wether you fuking idiots like to accept it or not, teenagers are still going through adolesence. No way can you compare 20somethings with teenagers. Stupid, pure stupid.

    Seamus- how is it a 'sidetrack'? They are affecting other people's night outs because they are acting chilish and immature. Bar staff don't like them, those over 21/22 don' like them. My point at the start of this idiot fest was that under 21s aren't old enough to enjoy the social life and can ruin it for others. My point was also that it may deter younger people from drinking like we do now as they wouldn't have AS MUCH of an option. Of course there are going to be drinkers. But as the years go by those people are going to get sick of standing out in the cold or going to a friends bedroom for a few cans or whatever. I knew when I was too young to go to pubs when it was too cold out or the Garda were all over the place I just didn't bother drinking.


  • #68
    inaccessibleisl
    Closed Accounts Posts: 112 ✭✭inaccessibleisl


    Originally posted by MrPinK
    You really think if the age limit is lowered then all the pubs will be over run by 16 year olds? The best most of them can afford is 6 cans of Dutch Gold. I'm 21 and I can't afford to drink in pubs to regularly these days, especially since student nights and drinks promotions where banned.

    Then why legalise it?


  • #69
    Zulu
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,967 ✭✭✭✭Zulu


    Originally posted by inaccessibleisl
    Fukinell, There are some real gems here. I can't believe some of the posts here.
    "Why not lower the drinking age to 16, there are 16 yr olds drinking anyway"
    Murciful Jeesis :rolleyes:, I once agrued that point. When I was 16/17. You'll understand when your in your earlymid 20's +, the people who consistently have the money, the people who are far less likely to start trouble (yes I f*ckin know people in their 20's fight), people who enjoy a quite night out once a week, these people wouldn't go to the pubs. The Pubs business would drop dramatically if 16yr olds were all over he place, acting (obviously) immaturely.
    Don't even bother saying that young gangs of people don't keep the older crowd from pubs. I've seen it with 4-5 pubs in the last year, the gangs of youths freshly 18 find somewhere were they can inhabit and stay there. The locals leave as it's uncomfortable around these babbling little twits and business suffers. Months later a blanket ban for the young uns and back come the ex-locals again and business and reputation improves again.
    Now could you imagine 16yr olds!! Ffs get a grip will ye?

    Do you even think before you type?
    If a pub was losing buisness, it would get rid of the crowd.
    Cafe en Sein/Ron Blacks for example will never be over run by 18year olds, why? Because of buisness.
    Are you drunk?


  • #70
    GreeBo
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    Cafe en Sein/Ron Blacks for example will never be over run by 18year olds, why? Because of
    outrageous prices.


  • #71
    Skud
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    Originally posted by inaccessibleisl
    Oh for fuks sake give me a break. 16yr olds are teenagers, kids. People in their 20's are adults.... blah blah blah.....
    Wether you fuking idiots like to accept it or not, teenagers are still going through adolesence. No way can you compare 20somethings with teenagers. Stupid, pure stupid.

    They(teenagers) are affecting other people's night outs because they are acting chilish and immature. Bar staff don't like them, those over 21/22 don' like them. My point at the start of this idiot fest was that under 21s aren't old enough to enjoy the social life and can ruin it for others.

    How many times can you say idiot or stupid? :)
    To be fair your biased ageist attitude is affecting your opinions here. That's your hang up not ours so please refrain from insulting people when you don't even know them. They are all the same you'll say next. That'll be some generalisation. It's because of attitudes like this that our society has these social problems. Your envoirnement is under threat(ppl invading where you drink) and you attack everyone. You talk about immaturity when clearly shouting abuse and calling people fuking idiots solves everything... Just because you in (I think you said early 20s) doesn't make you a better person than everyone younger than you.


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  • #72
    Zulu
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    Originally posted by Skud
    How many times can you say idiot or stupid? :)
    To be fair your biased ageist attitude is affecting your opinions here. That's your hang up not ours so please refrain from insulting people when you don't even know them. They are all the same you'll say next. That'll be some generalisation. It's because of attitudes like this that our society has these social problems. Your envoirnement is under threat(ppl invading where you drink) and you attack everyone. You talk about immaturity when clearly shouting abuse and calling people fuking idiots solves everything... Just because you in (I think you said early 20s) doesn't make you a better person than everyone younger than you.

    I think he said he was studying for his JCert. ;)


  • #73
    Skud
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    you sure wasn't entrance exam to secondary?


  • #74
    pigeonbutler
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    Originally posted by redoxan

    There should be punishments for pubs/clubs and off licences that serve the underaged. Again, this might stop some people, also we should be taking d&d people off the streets and fining them/parents.

    There are very significant punishments. On conviction for a first offence of serving underage a licenced premises can, and usually is, shut down for 7 days and has its licence endorsed. On further convictions a premises can be shut for up to 30 days or lose its licence completely.
    The current laws do regulate sufficently but they are not very widely enforced. I live in Athlone and am 17 but can get into almost anywhere I want to go out to (mainly due to a slightly receding hairline), including the biggest pub and biggest nightclub. I've yet to see the Gardaí come into a pub and look for ID from all the under 21s on the premises. And that law is on the books since September!!!!!


  • #75
    StephenInsane
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    **** that. Lower the legal age to 16.


  • #76
    Atreides
    Closed Accounts Posts: 439 ✭✭Atreides


    Hmmm make alaw you know will be broken, in the hope it will be broken to less a sever degree then and existing law, thats not procress. Lower the drinking age, people learn bad drinking habites as kids.

    Originally posted by inaccessibleisl
    When the drinking age is 18 people start at 15/16, but if the drinking age was 21 then people may start at 19/20, or maybe they'll be mature enough to say no to drink.
    Stiffer penaltys would also be a fantastic idea. People below 21 found guilty of consuming alcohol could be sentenced to commit their weekends to community service. Like cleaning up vomit at hospitals when drunken louts come in.


  • #77
    BlitzKrieg
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    uhmm havnt been able to read it all but...


    Everyone seems to feel that drinking too much is an irish culture problem...thats wierd cause i'm in england and while me and a dub m8 seem very well in control of our drink it seems the 100 or so other studants in our hall are not. I've seen the worse drinkers in my life here, one girl in particuler has been told many a time by me and other people that she cant drink to save her life that one pint has her drunk and 2 pints has her blacking out. Yet every time (like last night) we leave her and her friend alone in a bar she gets royaly pissed and rings us to carry them home (like last night :( ) Its not just irish i feel the english are worse drunks then us in every sense.


    -I understand the desire to put the drinking age up
    -but as a 18 year old myself i also feel against it


    I personnally feel cause some people feel its like a badge of honour to get pissed in all countries that you get such a problem.


    -Maybe everyone should have on the 18th day after their 18th b-day a bad piss up just so they know the bad side. (for example i have had only one, due to emotional problems and since i have banned myself from whiskey) Nothing beats a terrible night by the toilet to put you off drink. I can show you about 30 people i know alone who from only 1-2 bad experiances have become much more sensible.

    the bad news is i can show you another 20 (mostly female) who are not so sensible.


  • #78
    vgar
    Closed Accounts Posts: 175 ✭✭vgar


    Originally posted by inaccessibleisl
    How many times do you see under 21s vomiting in doorways, grappling eachother outside nightclubs, publicly displaying their awquard love for slappers and generally being an eyesore. Wether it's a student out to get plastered or an apprentice plasterer out to get legless it's all the same.

    Inaccessibleisl, you seem very strung up on the idea that people below 21 are "too immature to enjoy the social life" and that they cannot drink responsibly. Obviously you cannot throw every under 21 into this catagory (yes I agree there are a lot of them, but not all of them).

    I think increasing the legal age limit to 21 would in fact punish only the responsible ones as these are the ones that will head the law and refrain from going to the pub for a drink.
    It is the immature and irresponsible ones that will continue to drink outside of pubs in the streets or in the fields.

    Im in my early 20s now, and I do enjoy a few pints in the pub. I've never been in a fight, caused hassle in a pu or club or distrubted anyone elses night. I've always drunk responsably and I knew my limit. If the legal age was raised to 21 when I was 18 I would not have been happy, but I would not have gone to the pub and I would not have gone drinking in field either (I've never had a pint outside a pub or club). But I did know a lot of people back then who would have taken to the streets and the fields.

    A change like this would be punishing the wrong crowd and would cause more grief in the long run. There has always been an underage drinking problem in this country and there always will be. By uping the age limit you are simply increasing the number of people who fall into the underage catagory.

    I don't believe this is the answer. I believe the answer lies with working off the laws we have in place now and enforcing stricter guidelines and those who do cause problems in pubs and clubs (both young and old alike).


  • #79
    40crush41
    Closed Accounts Posts: 367 ✭✭40crush41


    well over here in america the drinking age is 21, im 17.. and though i don't drink (i will admit to a glass of wine at a Family party or on st.patty's day, but i don't think thats considered "drinking") in my class of about 100 theres about 20 others that don't (more or less) those 80 drink "and get so wasted that they were passed out on the floor -or they puked so much they almost choked on their own throw up and if someone didn't help them they could have died" because the only purpose of them to drink is to get drunk and to rebel against authority. sadly, if you lower the drinking age, it can be infered that these "rebels" will just start drinking earlier, or if you raise the drinking age, these "rebels" will drink to get drunk for a longer period of time. if you take away that rush of breaking the law it becomes less exciting b/c i think its a general rule that if something is denied to you but you get it anyway-say illegally- its really cool b/c ur not suposed to have it, but if its ok to have it then it looses all of its charm.

    either way alcohol is a dangerous thing that should be taken seriously... i guess the only way to deal with it would be through enforced laws. at least where i live the problem is that these underaged drinkers are not caught, be it that they have a fake id that the clubs don't bother to check since these kids are their business or they drink in the privacy of their own home.. where the parents may not care b/c they just want their kid to be "cool." (i can't stand parents who want to live through their kids)

    however, i have never been to ireland and im speaking from my own experiences which may not relate to you. hope that what i say does relate and can add to this discussion.

    have a nice day =) thank you for reading.
    ~beth


  • #80
    40crush41
    Closed Accounts Posts: 367 ✭✭40crush41


    oh, and allow me to add that i think 18 is a fine drinking age. i think its ridiculous that an 18 year old can vote, can fight and give their life for their country.. but isn't responsible enough to have a beer.
    ~beth


  • #81
    Creamy Goodness
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    i think we should losen up on the 18 age drinking rule thingy.

    1. in germany you have to be aged 16 to drink. when i went over there there was no drunks on the street no fights and i think the reason being is kids are use to drink and don't have to go binging.

    2. in france wine is a part of dinner most families with kids as young as 8 drink wine at dinner so when they get older they don't see what's the big fuss about going out and getting sloshed.


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  • #82
    monk
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    but if we raise the age of drinking how will the 40 year old married guys ever score with the teenagers ?
    :eek:

    (yea i'm only jokin)


  • #83
    User45701
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    Originally posted by syke
    If and when we learned to drink sensibly, I'd almost agree with this. Not likely anytime soon. Increasing accessability would do two things.

    1. Put a further strain on the already strained gardai trying to maintain law and order after pubs close at night.

    2. Create a drinking culture in the parks wher eth 16-18 year olds who can't afford to drink in pubs can now get hammered on drink that is easy to obtain, meaning that a sustained garda presence would be needed there too.

    Both good points

    1.I have often considerd the idia of having no set closing time because then there would not be as many drunks on the road at the same time - lol J/K but emm ye
    I just dont understand drink related fights. Why start a fight for no reason and why isent there simply a security camra on ever corner so it is so easy to find the guilty person and punish them?

    2.There punishment for being over 18 and drinking in the parks as i understand it is QUITE a SEVERE fine, it would be the same if the age was lowerd- If you are 17 and one of your 17 year old friends has a massive fine for drinking in a public place it will incurage you not to drink in parks. A sustained garda presence would be a good thing.
    Originally posted by redoxan
    I think lowering it to 16 is absurd. :dunno:
    Im not sure what a solution is, but I think that if the legal age was moved to 21 it would at least stop some people from getting drunk at 16.

    Drink at home if you are that mature!

    It wouldent stop them at 16. Even in america where it is 21 some teenagers do drink at 16 and that is without the "Irish drinking culture" Even if it was 21 people will still be drink at 16.
    Originally posted by Imposter

    Cinema times is a bit of a catch 22 but i'm sure the cinemas schedule the films to get the biggest crowd. If that means alienating a group of teenagers who'd rather be in a pub complaining of lack of other things to do then so be it! :)

    Just a point UGC in dublin is a nice cinima that does sell drink at decent prices though selection isent the greatest. There where complaints that they serve underage but ive been there allot and havent seen any.
    Originally posted by inaccessibleisl
    Fukinell, There are some real gems here. I can't believe some of the posts here.
    "Why not lower the drinking age to 16, there are 16 yr olds drinking anyway"
    Murciful Jeesis :rolleyes:, I once agrued that point. When I was 16/17. You'll understand when your in your earlymid 20's +, the people who consistently have the money, the people who are far less likely to start trouble (yes I f*ckin know people in their 20's fight), people who enjoy a quite night out once a week, these people wouldn't go to the pubs. The Pubs business would drop dramatically if 16yr olds were all over he place, acting (obviously) immaturely.
    Don't even bother saying that young gangs of people don't keep the older crowd from pubs. I've seen it with 4-5 pubs in the last year, the gangs of youths freshly 18 find somewhere were they can inhabit and stay there. The locals leave as it's uncomfortable around these babbling little twits and business suffers. Months later a blanket ban for the young uns and back come the ex-locals again and business and reputation improves again.
    Now could you imagine 16yr olds!! Ffs get a grip will ye?

    A good point. But I do not like you just saying all 16 year olds are imature or all 18 year olds are imature. People mature at different levels. I understand what you are saying i would not want a bunch of miscs in the same pub as me let alone the chance they might sit near me.

    I am trying to think of a solutation to the problem of imaturity but i cant, the best i can come up with is large pubs would probbley end up with youngins on 1 floor and other on another floor, Also the point that they wont all have enough money to go to pubs.
    Originally posted by inaccessibleisl
    Then why legalise it?

    To allow people to go into pubs. Ye they wouldent have the money to do it all the time but it would i would have liked it if i had the option back then
    Originally posted by Cr3m0
    i think we should losen up on the 18 age drinking rule thingy.

    1. in germany you have to be aged 16 to drink. when i went over there there was no drunks on the street no fights and i think the reason being is kids are use to drink and don't have to go binging.

    2. in france wine is a part of dinner most families with kids as young as 8 drink wine at dinner so when they get older they don't see what's the big fuss about going out and getting sloshed.

    Thats almost exeatly what i was going to say at the end of my post but you beat me 2 it.

    So i Will just say this.
    Originally posted by the all powerfull User45701

    Dutch Gold is horrible how can any of you touch it.
    I would prefear to drink 2/3 cans of something nice and not be anyway drunk instead of drinking 6 cans of Dutch


  • #84
    stormkeeper
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,633 ✭✭✭stormkeeper


    Originally posted by Imposter
    I dissagree totally with the idea of raising the drinking age. What I would do is lower it to 16's for beer (pints but not smirnoff ice etc.) and wine while leaving it at 18 for spirits and alcopops.

    I read this particular part with interest, as that how it is in The Netherlands, the 16 for beer and alcopops (i think, basically anything 5% or below, i beleive) and the 18 for higher alcohol content. I was thinking that maybe something like this may work over here?


  • #85
    inaccessibleisl
    Closed Accounts Posts: 112 ✭✭inaccessibleisl


    Originally posted by Zulu
    Do you even think before you type?
    If a pub was losing buisness, it would get rid of the crowd.
    Cafe en Sein/Ron Blacks for example will never be over run by 18year olds, why? Because of buisness.
    Are you drunk?

    Not everywhere is like Cafe en Seine with bouncers and a reputation. I already said I have seen 4-5 pubs in the last year suffer because of this problem. I swear to Jeesus some of the dopes here just see things in black & white. Your the biggest fukin dope on the boards. That saying something, this place is just flooded in teenager ethics and everyone believes they know everything. I guarantee you'll think the same as me when your 23/24 at the latest.
    I mean ffs, what kind of arguement is "Cafe en Sein/Ron Blacks for example will never be over run by 18year olds, why? Because of buisness.". Are the pubs across this country populated with pubs like these? Seriously man, what the fuk?
    The arguements on these boards are beyond ridiculous. Yesterday a number of people argued that English people in this country should be deported! I mean what kind of pimple poping teenie bopper ethics are on here?


  • #86
    Kiith
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 23,907 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kiith


    well i agree, english being deported is a bit extreme. rounded up into small containment zones would be ok.:D

    but back to the point. your bitching that all the teenager ethics on this board are wrong. and then you go call people names. man i can't wait to get into my mid 20's, and instantly become mature like you.


  • #87
    Imposter
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,666 ✭✭✭Imposter


    Originally posted by inaccessibleisl
    ...this place is just flooded in teenager ethics and everyone believes they know everything. ...
    As opposed to knowing they know everything, right?


  • #88
    ferdi
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,598 ✭✭✭ferdi


    Originally posted by Saruman
    :D Thats just class!! Should post that in humour!

    Anyway i dont drink but it would not make a difference increasing the age.. look at the US, its 21 there in most states and do you think that stops underage drinking? Course not.. its "cooler" to drink underage.. you would just turn 18-20 year olds from legal drinkers into "cool" illegal drinkers.
    danm right, i prefered drinking when i was under age - more of a 'thrill'.


  • #89
    Zulu
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,967 ✭✭✭✭Zulu


    Originally posted by inaccessibleisl
    Not everywhere is like Cafe en Seine with bouncers and a reputation. I already said I have seen 4-5 pubs in the last year suffer because of this problem. I swear to Jeesus some of the dopes here just see things in black & white. Your the biggest fukin dope on the boards. That saying something, this place is just flooded in teenager ethics and everyone believes they know everything. I guarantee you'll think the same as me when your 23/24 at the latest.
    I mean ffs, what kind of arguement is "Cafe en Sein/Ron Blacks for example will never be over run by 18year olds, why? Because of buisness.". Are the pubs across this country populated with pubs like these? Seriously man, what the fuk?
    The arguements on these boards are beyond ridiculous. Yesterday a number of people argued that English people in this country should be deported! I mean what kind of pimple poping teenie bopper ethics are on here?

    eemmm, yea, good man. :rolleyes: Language and insults - why bother with facts, just keep insulting people, thats sure to convince people of your point.
    If I WAS like you when I WAS 24 I'd be very upset.

    "Are the pubs across this country populated with pubs like these? Seriously man, what the fuk?" - indeed - what are you trying to say here? ...but I suppose it must be true, you did say "what the fuk" :rolleyes:

    Pubs wont be overrun with "pimple poping teenie boppers" if the pub owners don't want there buisness, or if the pub is suffering. :rolleyes:


  • #90
    inaccessibleisl
    Closed Accounts Posts: 112 ✭✭inaccessibleisl


    If you teenies seriously believe that mature people don't curse then or insult people then you've a lot of growing up to do. The only reason I use 'bad language' is because its a touch frustrating trying to argue a point with you people. People like Zulu are pedantic and their arguements are irrelevant and insulting to human intelligence.

    " "Are the pubs across this country populated with pubs like these? Seriously man, what the fuk?" - indeed - what are you trying to say here? ...but I suppose it must be true, you did say "what the fuk" " I mean ffs, what was the point in that paragraph? What do you think I meant here? Are pubs everywhere run the same way as the larger superpubs like the aformentioned? No, of course not. But instead of actually argueing the point you irrelevantly called attention to a three letter expression. Why?


    For instance a typical reply by you to argue this point is to question the term 'Superpub'. An attempt to make my post look poor, but you've no decent arguement of your own. That's why my posts are insulting, because it's the only way to get through to you idiots.
    What I'm trying to say is your adolesence minds are confused & undeveloped, your hormones are all over the place. One minute your angry and the next your happy.
    Your arguements are pedantic and only midly in subject with the point at hand.


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  • #91
    Lemming
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    inaccessibleisl has been reported to the relevant moderators for abusive behaviour against other posters.

    Read the forum rules before you post another post :rolleyes:


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