Do you believe in ghosts?

Giblet · 19-01-2004 12:36AM

So you believe in the paranormal, you believe there is another plain of existance, and that some people can talk to the dead, and I bet John Edwards is your idol, blah blah, and so on.

I think theres a banshee outside my house, better see if any loved ones are dead.

It's not Science, its common sense.

Faust · 19-01-2004 12:47AM

How about someone tries to present a believable argument either way and stop beginning sentences with the words "i believe"..

Giblet · 19-01-2004 12:52AM

Thats because there is no evidence to support it, but theres plenty to support that there isn't.

Well at least I hope there is plenty of common sense around.

Faust · 19-01-2004 01:04AM

Originally posted by Giblet
Thats because there is no evidence to support it, but theres plenty to support that there isn't.

Well at least I hope there is plenty of common sense around.

But i'm sure there's evidence against it then...

dilemma · 19-01-2004 01:14AM

Just because you can't prove something doesn't mean its not there, don't know if there is a way to prove it so all ppl can go on is there beliefs.

I take the point about banshees, thats folklore kinda stuff.

As for ghosts existing, why not? Why is it common sense not to believe?

Faust · 19-01-2004 01:59AM

Originally posted by dilemma
Just because you can't prove something doesn't mean its not there,

Then anything can exist... It makes no sense to follow that stream of thought!

coldenmean · 19-01-2004 02:15AM

well i have to say i definately believe that there is more out here than we have already identified and understand... were are only humans and too many times have reports of rooms droppin temperature really fast and the rest of the house being fine etc... and maybe its not ghosts of actual people, maybe it is, either way i think there is definately more 'energy' of some sort and we dont know where its coming from...
but i do believe personally that it is often the energy of people that have died and they are sorta floating around... i dont think thats really a scary thing either...
i have had some weird experiences especially when in an extra relaxed mode.. but sometimes not... sometimes in the middle of work or whatever.. especially to do with smells for some reason... dunno... and i dont really mind to be honest..
i mean.. do we have to know EVERYTHING? maybe leave some puzzles lying around... might be good for us?.....

Exit · 19-01-2004 02:17AM

I refer you to my post earlier. Read it carefully.

Originally posted by Exit
We have no idea why we're here or what's out there. I always give the example that dogs only see in grey, so to a dog colours don't exist and they have no reason to believe they do. However, we do know they exist (in our eyes anyway). I'd imagine we're similar to dogs and that there are things out there that we're just not capable of seeing.

It seems silly to believe that what we (humans) see and experience is all there is to the world. Just because we're the most powerful species on the planet, it doesn't mean our senses are the only ones that are right. If that was the case, America would always be right in the way they see things, as they're the most powerful.

dilemma · 19-01-2004 02:31AM

it doesn't necessarily mean anything can exist. i believe ghosts exist. i don't know how or why but i do. if you don't thats fair enough.

SantaHoe · 19-01-2004 02:34AM

I'd class myself as skeptical but open.
I'd like to believe there's some other existence... wether or not ghosts are sentient or mere echos remains to be decided by the pundits though.
I wouldn't say I'm a believer, I'd generally pass ghost storys off as complete tosh, but when you consider the immensity of the universe and the things mankind hasn't even scratched the surface of... you realize just how little science can actually explain.... black holes, dark matter and all that sort of thing.

tba · 19-01-2004 08:14PM

I think Boards.ie is Haunted

Every now and again wierd things happen, like my posts mysteriously change or disappear completely, I become unable to post on certain boards and no matter how many time s I check it my speeling always comes out wrong when I post.

tba · 19-01-2004 08:15PM

Originally posted by tba
...my speeling always...

IT HAPPENED AGAIN!

DID ANTONE ELSE SEE THAT?

It must be ghosts there is no other rational explantation

b3t4 · 19-01-2004 09:45PM

I am a believer. A few incidents that have happened me in my life.

The night my grandfather died four paintings fell of the wall in the hall way of our house. As if someone had passed through.

There is a very old empty house down a country lane beside my house which feels extremely cold no matter what time the year. The house was ransacked a good 10yrs back but one room was left *completely* untouched. There is a single chair in an upstairs room positioned to look out both windows in the room. Eventhough the stairs has long since been destroyed. No matter where you go on the farmyard around the house it feels like you are being watched.

An old housemate recalled of how when he used to look after his smaller baby sister she would continuously stare up at one particular corner in a room. The baby would appear to act as if there was a person there. An aunt of theirs had died in the same house a couple of months previously.

A very good friend, who I do trust, recounted horrifying stories of ghosts which he could see and had been seeing since he was a child. My friend was also able to recount to their own mother how she had two or three miscarriages before she had them. At which the mother broke down in tears as she had never told them this. My friend is an only child.

Just a few things that decided things for me anyways.

A.

TheSonOfBattles · 19-01-2004 11:23PM

How about spelling it out this way. America was an unknown country to science as we know it up till a few hundred years ago. Does that mean it didn't exist before we discovered it simply because we couldn't prove conclusivly whether or not it existed until it was discovered?

Science says yes it did exist and has for many millions of years. Your common sense, which we have to go by though, says no, the day it was discovered is the day it was made, and they were just lucky enough to discover it as it was being made. Nice coincidence huh Giblet.

steviem · 20-01-2004 02:04AM

How many people go to mass or some other religious congregation on a daily/ weekly basis to pray to someone who they have never met, never seen, never had any correspondence with, or even spoken/met with someone who has.

So, how can you say that you can't believe in something that you haven't seen.

Faust · 20-01-2004 02:55AM

Originally posted by steviem
How many people go to mass or some other religious congregation on a daily/ weekly basis to pray to someone who they have never met, never seen, never had any correspondence with, or even spoken/met with someone who has.

So, how can you say that you can't believe in something that you haven't seen.

I don't belive in organised religion!

TheSonOfBattles · 20-01-2004 10:14AM

Originally posted by Faust
I don't belive in organised religion!

Best decision you ever made. Organized religion is the worst idea ever tbh.

Oh, and Giblet, John Edwards and all those tele psycics can go suck a tailpipe and die. They're ****ing assholes, and the world would be a better place without them.

Giblet · 20-01-2004 02:12PM

Yes he's a douche

K2 · 20-01-2004 02:28PM

My friends sister can see them, in a sixth sense (the movie) kinda way. now before anybody splits themselves laughing read the following story:

I live with my wife and family in a small village in Mayo, (we are both originally from Dublin). Anyhow my wife was in Dublin one week and she went to see this girl (one of her friends). While there a dead man visted them to try and explain what had happened to him (he had an accident in his tractor by a river), my friend couldn't make sense out of what he was telling her and my wife didn't even know him.

A couple of days later we were in a local pub, she told me the story of what had happened and I asked the bar man if anybody had died recently ...he asks arond the pub and we hear that a few days earlier a man in his 50's had died in an accident by a stream on his land when his tractor turned over.

I've never seen anything paranormal, but I believe there is more to us than the time we spend here.

Faust · 20-01-2004 04:01PM

hehe mayo

Tivoli · 20-01-2004 04:33PM

can i vote yes becuase i thought you were talking about hard drive cloning

Do you believe in ghosts?

How many people go to mass

ghosts/god pah your all gullible

Faust · 20-01-2004 04:36PM

I worship a giant space monkey called STEVE and i have as much of a basis for my argument as everyone else YEY! BOW BEFORE STEVE FOR HIS BANNANA POWERS WILL FREE YOUR SOUL!

Do you believe in ghosts?

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