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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,215 ✭✭✭Conversations 3


    Yea, missed out by a small margin.

    I'll let it roll over and see, can't do it until the hedges are cut back anyway.

    Apparently TB swallowed a lot of the budget.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,169 ✭✭✭morphy87




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,461 ✭✭✭limo_100


    planning be a few months but hopefully I can get it before sept and get the application submitted to tams before in the sept tranch. Probably all going well would get the approval next March / April so would do it next summer or the summer after. I would be just doing the tanks year 1



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,010 ✭✭✭weatherbyfoxer


    A grant spec tank will cost around €450 per foot inc vat before the tams is claimed.That for digging,slats,concrete steel...everything.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,461 ✭✭✭limo_100


    that’s 450 so if its 72 ft long like a 4bay it’s 72 x 450? I assume that’s off a 14.6 slat



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 275 ✭✭Farmer Dan


    Would you get back the VAT for everything involved with the tank?

    Would you be back to €346.5 per foot then approx?



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 5,136 Mod ✭✭✭✭Siamsa Sessions


    I got VAT back on concrete, steel, labour, and the slats themselves when I did a tank in 2024.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,079 ✭✭✭Dupont


    what type of fencing does the grant cover and did you get any prices from contractors to do it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 529 ✭✭✭MeTheMan


    Are side sling dung spreaders included in TAMS? Only see rear discharge in the grants list.

    Wouldn't have much dung to spread in a year and the rear discharge spreaders seem all 6m+.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,247 ✭✭✭adne


    Side slung are covered. I got one 2 years ago. No issues with TAMs



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,321 ✭✭✭White Clover




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,461 ✭✭✭limo_100


    have planning in for a shed got a submission into from the transport infrasture Ireland saying the object to the development due to my entrance ( existing ) one coming onto a 100kpm road. might I add that this was the entrance provided to the Farm from the same crowd back in the 80's when the original entrance was taken for said road. the shed will also reduce traffic due to have having to draw in 80K gallons of slurry each year and 300 odd bales having to be drawn away in the winter. anyone have any dealings with this crowd



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,160 ✭✭✭Aravo


    Likely loads of cases like yours. I will PM you one response on how they handled it. It is public info but does contain name and address of person. If you have an agent working on the application they should be able to assist.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,945 ✭✭✭dmakc


    Sightlines and history are irrelevant. Intensification is the relevant threshold term here. If you can prove otherwise you'll be fine. It might be via an FI request but just have your ducks in order, proper proof as to why the shed will reduce turning movements onto the road

    If you dont get the point across at FI you could be in for a long road (ACP appeal). Hopefully you get FI as the council may go straight with TII



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,461 ✭✭✭limo_100


    I just know the submissions are open for a few more weeks and I will respond with a response for sure. I will write up a letter of how the shed will decrease Trafic and improve safety by not having to use a cattle pen along the road, and will reduce traffic coming to the farm.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,945 ✭✭✭dmakc


    Yes and keep hitting the safety point. I know of one 100kph road where a farmer couldn't get a shed built, yet was later able to halt the same road for days to construct an underpass in the name of safety.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,461 ✭✭✭limo_100


    sure I do have to use the hard shoulder to unload slurry to the pipe systems and next time they will be putting a nurse tank along the road. But pumping form the shed on the land is bad



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,461 ✭✭✭limo_100


    on google it says you need sightlines of 215m both directions to come onto a 100kpm road just checked on google earth I have over 500m in both directions and plenty of of spare m's also.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,945 ✭✭✭dmakc


    Yes the sightlines are likely irrelevant here. Look up the policies they refer to, it's likely DoECLG Spatial 2012 guidelines, meaning it's essentially about intensification / turning movements / free flow of traffic. Intensification is all you need to focus on.

    The slurry might be hard argue on a NET basis in that even the new slurry will have to leave the yard also. In that particular example you'd need to show that by having extra storage, the land on your own side of the road can take seperate spreadings during the year rather than having to bring it elsewhere via road due to lack of storage



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,461 ✭✭✭limo_100


    all the land is in one block so none of the slurry will be leaving the block except for a 4.5 acre field across the road, but its never got slurry before. the block of land can is 35 acres without that field, at 2000k to the acre there is 70k gallons and the tanks capacity are 100k give or take, 4bays, 14.6 slat and 9 ft deep and 2tanks is roughly 100k at 2500k gallons its 88K gallons on that block and I won't fill them tanks anyway as I have almost an extra tank there



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