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Immigration and Ireland - MEGATHREAD *Mod Note Added 02/09/25*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,405 ✭✭✭Paddy_Mag


    Reuters is not reputable?

    Funny how you focus on niall boylan tweet, and not the link he tweeted.

    The AFD source? You mean the speech in the EU parliament.

    What gives you the right to dismiss stuff just because it doesnt suit your agenda? Amazing how very selective you are about whay you are reading. Just because you deem something "far right" doesnt mean its not true.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,601 ✭✭✭batman_oh


    Damn that's some serious racism right there. Far right propoganda like the crime statistics from Denmark and graph showing that those from certain countries are a massive economic cost forever rather than engineering pension payers.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,405 ✭✭✭Paddy_Mag


    Reuters is now not a reputable source according to one poster on here.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,638 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    At the moment there is a failed far right party and a few activists with a few councillors with those views There is a thread elsewhere about Justin Barrett if you are really serious .

    But the main issue is a push by activists like Tommy Robinson , and far right groups in Nth America and Europe posting propaganda about migrants and far right videos and links on social media mainly .( like what is going on here )

    But I suspect you didnt get a reply because the disingenuous style of your question referring to MSM as "left wing media ."

    Gript misrepresenting the facts as usual in their headline .

    He said 70 to 80% rejected initially but one third of those that appeal are then granted.

    And that was confirmed by O'Callaghan .

    https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/debates/debate/dail/2025-11-05/24/

    "approximately 81% of applications are rejected at first instance. Approximately 70% to 76% of those refusals are appealed but even on appeal, only 25% to 30% of appeals are granted."

    A sizable amount I agree , but lets not publish false numbers when we have the real facts available .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 709 ✭✭✭tallaghtfornia


    Thanks for the reply so in essence with the exception of a failed party and some foreign influencers we have no far right parties in Ireland? Also I see you say they are posting propaganda about migrants? That’s a very broad term to use. Are you referring to illigal immigrants, bogus asylum seekers or people who have come from the EU or people who have legally come which the majority of posters here have no issue with ? Proving they can support themselves and not commit crime



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,638 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    I see you have decided what they should be posting there yourself .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,720 ✭✭✭Luxembourgo


    The Gript/Youth Defence thing is a bit childish, is it RTE/Government?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,153 ✭✭✭dabbler2004


    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2026/06/15/million-migrants-expected-sign-up-spain-amnesty/

    Another source for context.

    Is The Telegraph far right too?

    (While the article is paywalled the opening sentence confirms the headline)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,196 ✭✭✭Gen.Zhukov


    On the recent figures out yesterday - There's something very off about the way it was done

    Figs usually released on Tues pm between 16/17:00 hrs. They drop this one late Friday pm and within an hour RTE have a little article released on their website

    - That's been totally orchestrated between Govt and RTE imo and I'm wondering what's behind it - There's a couple of options that I can think of. 1) There is some sort of a hardline change incoming and Govt is softening the blow for the hard-left crazies (similar to when poor RTE amazingly discovered that UKR's were getting way more welfare than the avg EU country on the 25th Oct 23…

    RTE news.jpg

    …which happened just before the rates were cut) - or, 2) they're just going to say 'It's the CTA, what can we do' and shrug their shoulders

    Something is up, that's for sure

    I also suspect there are many blind eyes being turned in the UK as lads wearing life jackets travel west to ferry ports



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,239 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    It's one of the biggest scams of the modern era.

    Our government won't go anywhere near a referendum either.

    https://gript.ie/surge-in-asylum-claims-last-week-bring-highest-number-since-2024/

    What is actually going on. Big numbers of men coming from one of the most dangerous countries for women on the planet and costing a fortune from Day 1. We are sleepwalking into a disaster and we've seen what happens further down the line in Sweden ect.

    And this is happening long after the government became well aware the vast majority don't support this.

    I'm on the verge of a site ban. Please don't rage bait me, I'm easily triggered especially late at night!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,960 ✭✭✭✭sligeach


    This movie was on RTE One tonight. I'm sure it's just coincidental the timing of its airing, its subject matter FGM(female genital mutilation) and all its enveloping issues correlating with current affairs in Ireland.

    And yet:

    https://www.humanium.org/en/female-genital-mutilation-fgm-in-somalia-a-harsh-daily-reality-for-many-girls/

    Screenshot_2026-06-21-02-29-21-083-edit_com.android.chrome.jpg

    Remind me, what gender and nationality is the number 1 seeker of asylum in Ireland?

    “Living in Ireland helped me realise I should protect young girls.” This resounding determination and strength of will paid off; Ifrah was instrumental in bringing about the 2012 legislation banning the practice of FGM in Ireland, and is gender adviser to the Somali government, with the intention of bringing about an end to FGM in a country where 98 per cent of girls are cut. “It’s a huge responsibility to tell a story about someone, especially when that person is only 25.

    https://www.image.ie/living/culture/a-girl-from-mogadishu-women-whats-all-this-about-felt-everyone-was-ignorant-224269

    I don't think Irish people are the problem.



  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 4,747 Mod ✭✭✭✭Ozymandius2011


    Edit: I recall the Pamela Izevbekhai case where she claimed to have had a daughter who had FGM. When someone came forward who said this daughter never existed, she was deported. But that case dragged on for about 10 years and was a cause celebre in RTE and the press. I remember politicians being photographed with her.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,897 ✭✭✭Patrick2010


    Most “asylum seekers “ coming in to the country are single men from Somalia who no doubt believe in FGM



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,405 ✭✭✭Paddy_Mag


    This is shocking. Very similar to how our own political leaders vanished when Ryan Casey made his victim impact statement having been all over the Aisling Murphy murder at the time. But once Ryan spoke out, Nada.

    But but but the far right blah blah blah.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,072 ✭✭✭Grab All Association


    What happened was Sinn Féin and members of PBP came after Ryan Casey.

    Superimposing his face on the picture of Jozef Puska and photoshopping him in a nazi uniform.

    Never forget how sick these individuals really are.

    I wish Ryan had of sued Kitty Holland as well as the BBC.

    This be the Kitty Holland that supposedly witnessed a group of "white Irish men" turn up to a makeshift migrant camp in Ashtown with dogs and bats and beat up the occupants. In an era where everyone and their dog has a smartphone, wasn't able to produce any evidence of this.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,182 ✭✭✭Stephen_Maturin


    Also who has baseball bats in Ireland?

    Another nutcase with an America obsession



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,638 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    My agenda ? I would like not to have to wade through link after dubious link from far right sources as I have already said .

    Its not Reuters writing it , they just publish as you say if its in the public domain. But it doesn't mean everything said by various people is true in the way it is interpreted through the lens of someone else . You have to read a bit further than posting links that are pushed by an algorithm because of catchy anti migrant headlines. Often as we saw with that Gript piece you linked they put incorrect statements as factin a headline to draw others in …clickbait , in other words. You have to read the real statement to get the correct story .

    The fact crime has gone up in EU in the last 10 years is not related to migrants in that link that you posted , except that the population has gone up . You or someone else reposting it made that assumption .

    There are far right MEPs in the EU of which that character is one, Sell . Now he has an agenda So we should listen to what some MEP says as gospel? Lots of people here and elsewhere don't rate their local MEP for various reasons.

    As for the Spanish lets see how they deal with their amnesty and leave the " what if something " out of it or call it fact . Jumping on a bandwagon before it has planned its direction .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,638 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    Well done for highlighting one individual case of wrongdoing . /s

    Its pretty rampant on this thread . Highlighting an individual bad case and applying it as a generalised "they are all like that " or "god help us with all these coming in" is a poor way to discuss a subject . You did not apply it , but you are feeding it with this and other comments I have read from you here . I do reply to highlight this before you edit it out if I can .

    There are women here in Ireland who have fled their homecountries because of the use of fgm, rape and mutilation( noses . ears . hands. breasts cut off ) as a means of warfare and control and dominion.

    Every case needs to be asessed on its merits or otherwise and that is why many of those asylum seekers are accepted with their families.

    Who would want their daughters brought up with that threat or their sons taught to believe this is the way women should be treated ?

    You are entitled to your opinion but canyou try not to feed the frenzy here ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,169 ✭✭✭ypres5


    So all the asylum seekers are gonna besiege Ireland to commit FGM? Have a day off lads



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,638 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    Isn't hyberbole great ? It was one baseball bat that was reported but many with dogs and sticks .

    And there were videos of the protests at the time circulaing not to mention AGS bodycam footage



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,960 ✭✭✭✭sligeach


    State spent nearly €3m deporting people on charter jet

    https://www.rte.ie/news/politics/2026/0621/1579572-deportations-cost-ireland/

    The most recent charter flight departed from Dublin airport to South Africa on Thursday, was the most expensive at a cost of €735,000, where deportation orders were carried out against 42 South African nationals.

    The 2nd most costly charter was also to South Africa, which cost €585,075, where 63 people were deported.

    The 3rd costliest flight took place last September, when 24 people were deported to Pakistan at a cost of €473,000.

    People from South Africa and Pakistan shouldn't be claiming asylum. These people should be made repay the cost of their flights, at the very least. If you don't pay your TV license, you get hounded.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,527 ✭✭✭herbalplants


    I couldn't agree more.

    What strikes me as irresponsible is the government is playing with tax payers money and waste them. Don't allow them to enter and spend the cash on the local people!

    Remember the shills only get paid when you react to them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,111 ✭✭✭Juran


    Sounds like a lot, but I feel its money well spent. Its a drop of the cost of housing & welfare for life which is reality for most of bogus AS. I only wish that the Irish government would process application within a week and put the failed AS's on return charter flights straight away. This would deter bogus AS's and save billions in the long run.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 935 ✭✭✭engineerws




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,637 ✭✭✭Floppybits


    Hasn't this always been the case. Girls love the bad boys then they grow up. Some boys don't grow up. When I was younger I had a girlfriend break up with me because I was "too nice to be nice". Wasn't really doing anything special just treating them as how I would like to be treated but she wanted someone who wasn't nice.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,031 ✭✭✭rgossip30


    Spains unemployment is 9.9 % interesting to see how this amnesty will effect that .



  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 4,747 Mod ✭✭✭✭Ozymandius2011


    I think the cost of the deportations is a drop in the ocean compared to the cost of housing asylum seekers, free legal.aid etc.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,286 ✭✭✭✭Geuze


    There are no far right TDs or Senators.

    I can't claim to know all 949 Cllrs, but I am nearly 100% sure none are far-right.

    Far-right means wanting a much smaller State, with much lower public spending and taxes.

    There may be a tiny far-right party, of absolutely no consequence.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,286 ✭✭✭✭Geuze


    You may think they are bonkers, yet their support is rising.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,286 ✭✭✭✭Geuze


    There are 95 Americans claiming asylum, at a cost of €122,000 to process each claim.

    €12 million of taxpayers money on American asylum-seekers.



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