Immigration and Ireland - MEGATHREAD Mod Note Added 02/09/25

OscarMIlde · 19-06-2026 12:04PM

Saw this article in Kildarenow. This judge is known for being opinionated, but still very unusual to see comments like these;

https://www.kildarenow.com/news/naas/kildare-judge-lashes-laughable-irish-immigration-laws-8746516

He said the legislation governing immigration in Ireland is being brought into disrepute and the defendant could “walk in here.”

He said the objections to bail were well founded and added “I’ve no doubt he is a flight risk.”

He said the defendant is “breaching immigration laws here and in another country.”

He commented as a man has appeared in court after gardaí allegedly found about 150 stolen items at an accommodation centre for people seeking asylum in Sallins.

The total value of the items, which were taken from Boots, Aldi, Marks & Spencer and Supervalu, was put at €3,300 and individually they range in value from €120 to €10.

The court heard the man was in an International Protection Accommodation Services (IPAS) centre.

Garda Gary Callanan told the court the defendant was detained on May 26 and the proceedings were translated for the defendant by a Vietnamese interpreter.

The garda added the man said the items were found in a suitcase and a holdall bag and he said he bought the goods on the street adding “I believe they were stolen.”

Gda Callanan said the man told him that he had been apprehended by immigration authorities in England, having arrived there from France. He said he was dealing with immigration authorities in the UK and he did not answer bail there.

He added that he was known by three names in England and he is listed as an "absconder" in the UK by immigration authorities.

“I’m still trying to establish if he is wanted,” he said, adding he would not be happy that the man would turn up in court if he was granted bail.

The garda added that after the man was apprehended he was to have signed on but he didn't and made his way to Ireland, via Belfast Port, having secured “some form of bail.”

“He’s living in an IPAS centre in Sallins,” he added.

The man was in the country for six/seven weeks and the garda said he was not aware of any previous convictions.

It shows how lax the system is, and that in reality there is no checks before granting someone accommodation. A man, from Vietnam (a safe country), travelled from the UK and France to Ireland. Gets given accommodation within six/seven weeks at the expense of the Irish taxpayer, and immediately sets about systematically shoplifting, increasing the prices we all pay for goods. He just should be refused any support; no IPAS accommodation, no social welfare and a refusal to enter the country unless with a valid VISA. Why should a vietnamese national be granted IPAS accommodation, who approves this? This kind of waste of money is unfair to anyone legitimately in this country paying taxes.

enricoh · 19-06-2026 12:11PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124562881#Comment_124562881

Over half those deported this year had criminal convictions here. Them activists masquerading as journalists at the journal will be all over this, won't they🧐

https://www.independent.ie/county/monaghan/query-by-monaghan-td-reveals-more-than-half-of-deportations-this-year-made-on-grounds-of-criminality/a/157362952.html

Galwayguy35 · 19-06-2026 01:29PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124562823#Comment_124562823

Sounds like a lot of money but if the 42 of them were let stay a few years more living off our taxes the bill would be a lot higher.

Also worth remembering that if either Labour or the SDs had got into government none of them would be on that plane.

Marcos · 19-06-2026 02:02PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124563317#Comment_124563317

Exactly, the Danish Ministry of Finance figures shown on this thread a couple of months ago estimate the cost at $1 million per non western migrant. So look at those figures again and then it doesn't seem so bad at all. And those are purely financial costs, now throw in criminal behaviour, not a large stretch as they are criminals already, and the associated costs and it looks even better.

Resplendent Moose · 19-06-2026 03:50PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124562531#Comment_124562531

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that just the exact same thing people say about Gript/Youth Defence, whereas in reality they do report selectively?

noc1980 · 19-06-2026 05:17PM

Saw a video posted by a recent arrival of them straight off the plane, down to the phone shop to get a sim for their iPhone then immediately availing of a free meal at a charity dinner spot, then off to another charity 'shop' where they could fill a shopping cart with food and supplies for 2 euros.

Not a word of English or guidance from any locals required, all info and directions provided by whatsapp groups. I couldn't help but be impressed at the efficiency of it all. They've got every benefit they're entitled to down to a science and you know what, you can only admire it. Our generosity is almost a source of amusement to them at this point and who could blame them. You'd be a fool not to come here.

Migdal_Or · 19-06-2026 05:46PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124561628#Comment_124561628

It's not just Harris; they all seem to have their stock phrases. They help soften absolute statements, giving them room to avoid firm commitments, deflect accountability, and steer the narrative. A lot of today's TDs are heavily media-trained rather than naturally adept at handling awkward questions, so they're coached to respond in particular ways, and this is one of the techniques they're taught.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124562392#Comment_124562392

Wow, if that, a personal attack on a young man forging a career for himself, is the best you've got, then you really are on the ropes.

TokTik · 19-06-2026 06:17PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124562823#Comment_124562823

I wonder how much they cost us while they were here. Hopefully now we can start pumping money into return hubs rather than IPAs centres, since it’s now ok with their beloved EU

TokTik · 19-06-2026 06:17PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124562823#Comment_124562823

I wonder how much they cost us while they were here. Hopefully now we can start pumping money into return hubs rather than IPAs centres, since it’s now ok with their beloved EU

Luxembourgo · 19-06-2026 06:48PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124562823#Comment_124562823

Make that back in a year, decent ROI

Perfidious Cretin · 19-06-2026 07:04PM

It just goes on and on and on..

https://www.rte.ie/news/2026/0619/1579395-government-asylum-figures/

Mostly single men from Somalia. Every single one of these people needs to be rounded up and shipped back to wherever they came from. Say they're Somalian? Then off back to Somalia with you..

Mike Murdock · 19-06-2026 07:21PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124564125#Comment_124564125

It never ends…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xz6OGVCdov8

RoyalCelt · 19-06-2026 07:42PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124559760#Comment_124559760

I like that line, citizenship should be earned.

InAtFullBack · 19-06-2026 09:27PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124563026#Comment_124563026

The Govt should hire Ryanair for the job. €59.99 one way to SA would be some deal.

I read Aer Lingus are cutting routes after this summer, there's a few idle aircraft also.

InAtFullBack · 19-06-2026 09:36PM

With the tide turning across alot of Europe and the USA basically sealed up, the next logical step is for the abolishment of the The 1951 Refugee Convention. Surely a few nations can get the ball rolling.

I think a direct abolishment and then let a new framework be developed, which might take a year or three. In the meantime, leave it to the countries to decide what to do, these countries' politicians can't then hide behind "international obligations".

Resplendent Moose · 19-06-2026 09:47PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124564625#Comment_124564625

With the tide turning across alot of Europe and the USA basically sealed up…

I wouldn't be making any assumptions in this regard. We've already seen what happened in Hungary. When Trump dies and the personality cult collapses (can't come soon enough), when the Republicans get horsed out in the Midterms (soon enough) and lose the next Presidency (a little longer but it's coming), and when Russian interference in Europe and elsewhere starts to fade as Putin's downfall progresses, we're going to be seeing some very different political landscapes. Sure, it'll take a long time to de-Trumpify the US, particularly to root out the influences that caused it in the first place, but it can be done.

saintsaltynuts · 19-06-2026 10:03PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124562823#Comment_124562823

Worth every penny in my my eyes if we can import them we can get rid of them quick enough.

InAtFullBack · 19-06-2026 10:03PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124564672#Comment_124564672

One thing to remember about elections - 'it's the economy stupid' to coin a phrase. Team Trump will do well in the mid-terms now that he has taken his off-ramp from the Iran war.

BBC: Why the US economy keeps defying the odds

The data doesn't lie and people by and large vote with their wallets.

Oil price drops will supercharge the US economy over the next few months, just in time for November.

ziggyman17 · 19-06-2026 10:13PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124562392#Comment_124562392

and who or what are you……silly little fool……..

InAtFullBack · 19-06-2026 10:16PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124564672#Comment_124564672

Forgot to add, the Hungarian electorate just replaced a Russian-leaning conservative with a EU-leaning conservative. It's not quite the revolution many have touted. Péter Magyar is cut from the same cloth of Orban, they were originally in the same party Fidesz until around just two short years ago. LOLs!

Resplendent Moose · 19-06-2026 10:53PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124564735#Comment_124564735

And a thing to remember about personality cults is they don't survive the death of their leader. Given the state of his health Trump will be doing well to live the rest of this year, never mind to the end of his term. Then the whole rotten thing will collapse, and we'll see how people view things.

CollyFlower · 19-06-2026 11:50PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124563907#Comment_124563907

Seen that happening in Tesco last week, 5 of them getting Tescos Sims, and a NGO helping them out...

These backward countries should be colonialised again.

Ozymandius2011 · 20-06-2026 12:20AM

The leaders of 19 EU states have backed plans to offshore asylum by setting up so-called return hubs abroad for people whose applications for international protection have been rejected.

Ireland did not sign on but in my opinion should have done. These are people who have already failed their asylum claims, so are not refugees.

https://euobserver.com/222916/19-eu-leaders-back-foreign-deportation-centres-for-rejected-asylum-seekers/

“We will personally lead the way to make sure our visions are brought to life,” they said, in an open letter published on Friday (19 June) against the backdrop of an EU summit in Brussels.

The letter was signed by Austria, Belgium, Bulgaria, Cyprus, the Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Greece, Hungary, Italy, Latvia, Lithuania, Malta, the Netherlands, Poland, Romania, Slovenia, Slovakia, and Sweden.

Paddy_Mag · 20-06-2026 07:18AM

These numbers are unacceptable. They most certainly are not a making a better fiscal contribution to the country then an irish person is.

Eventually the money will run out but it won't be these grifters who end up worse off when that happens. Hapless government will not have the balls to act in any meaningful way.

Like its not even difficult, if they are here on work permits, and are not working, withdraw the work permit and the social welfare supports.

The country needs to be run like a business, not a social club. These people will end up costing the state Billions until they die.

Cue outrage because its the gript. Maybe if those so outraged actually aimed their outrage at government things might change.

https://twitter.com/i/status/2067984224460705826

Luxembourgo · 20-06-2026 08:26AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124563723#Comment_124563723

Just like the journal, rte etc do?

Resplendent Moose · 20-06-2026 08:33AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124565388#Comment_124565388

Didn't say it wasn't. Everyone reports selectively.

But trying to claim some kind of higher moral ground for Gript/Youth Defence when (1) they're at the same thing as everyone else, and (2) they're a known misinformation source to begin with, is fairly chancey behaviour.

Paddy_Mag · 20-06-2026 08:54AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124565397#Comment_124565397

So when main stream media report "gardai have arrested man from Bray" who is actually from Nigeria or Somalia or wherever, do you call them out for misinformation??????

Because thats a deliberate attempt at deflection. Especially when the comments on SM are also turned off.

Luxembourgo · 20-06-2026 08:59AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124565397#Comment_124565397

Agree they are the same as everyone else. And should be treated as such.

There is misinformation everywhere these days. There is no moral high ground with gript or any news source

Gript isn't my cup of tea, but stats like that are important and can't be argued about. Things like that should be discussed, because when they aren't it breeds resentment and escalation.

Why are such a high proportion foreign born? What is the breakdown by nationality?

Resplendent Moose · 20-06-2026 09:18AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124565426#Comment_124565426

If the man lives in Bray then he's a "man from Bray" unless or until other information is known. That shouldn't be too difficult.

On the other hand, reporting the wrong identity of an attacker, or reporting on crimes by immigrants while not reporting at all on crimes by Irish born; that's misinformation.

It is of course perfectly OK to do this, and as i said everybody reports selectively. But in the case of Gript/Youth Defence they have an obvious editorial policy and are playing to a captive audience. They, and their supporters, are just not being honest about it.

Ozymandius2011 · 20-06-2026 09:27AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124565433#Comment_124565433

An Independent Ireland councillor De Courcy has suggested publishing the nationality of criminals.

If it is true that foreign nationals are not over represented in crime, then surely the liberals should support this?

Personally I think government secrecy creates more paranoia than transparency does.

Personally I think that criminality is more likely as a proportion of a country's population of they have a terrible mental health system, brutal dictatorships that give a terrible example to young men that problems are to be solved by violence or stealing from fellow citizens etc.

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