Gript-A source of misinformation. **Read OP before posting**

So certain brutal murders get excluded cause they got no large-scale rioting or what? The reality is the loyalists didn't have a clear path to pogroms or targeting the innocent via them.

But I can point you to uniquely violent crimes in Northern Ireland that are as bad this. Equally the torture Ogilvie faced in his twenties was as bad as this. That's loyalists in the latter case. But the rioters ultimately don't really care about such violence or even condone it in some cases.

Also worth looking at how outraged the people of Belfast were in relation to the rioting. That seemed to be making the locals feel far more unsafe ultimately. Naturally gript and its fans avoid that.

Or what? You'll tell the mods on me?

What Natalie McNally went through was 'similar'. It was a frenzied stabbing.

But what you were really talking about was 'a similar attack where the person didn't die'.

Pathetic.

The absolute vile excuse of a man who carried out that horrendous murder of Natalie McNally and her unborn child didn't spark the public disorder you seem to have expected because….

He was born and raised here, we have always had these vile excuses for a human living in our society and always will, unfortunately - we have no choice in this regard.

As for the attempted beheading, another absolute vile excuse of a man who carried out that horrible attack - he wasn't born and raised here, but our border controls had a choice in letting him into Ireland or not.

There is a huge difference between the two.

I'm sure I could think hard enough, but I don't really have the desire to try and make excuses for people who only care when brown people commit crimes, and make excuses for white people who commit equally heinous crimes.

People who say we can’t do anything about locals killing people are making excuses for them.

To rob what the OP said, if you think hard enough you might understand why.

Got it. It's about the colour of people's skin. Thanks for the confirmation.

Where did I mention the colour of either vile excuse of a man's skin colour, I'll gladly wait for you to provide your "got it"

Again, where did I mention anything about race? I'll gladly wait for you to provide your "racist idiocy" evidence.

Are you serious? You’re so blinkered about your love child immigration that you can actually double down on that crap.

Take the comments any way you wish. Personally I can’t take seriously this almost pathological desire to defend all immigration on a see no evil hear no evil basis. With the very odd exception posters who are labelled far right racists are simply seeking to have an honest discussion on how to manage immigration in a way that benefits the country and helps genuine asylum seekers who need protection.

Reducing the discussion to you either love all immigration and immigration policy without question or you’re a knuckle dragging far right racist is juvenile utopian world superficial nonsense IMHO. Each to their own of course

It’s all very clear isn’t it. Perfectly reasonable to label people as far right racist knuckledraggers for having the insolence to disagree with the hear no evil see no evil immigration supporters

You did corner him perfectly and exposed that you wouldn't get actual answers. It was good work.