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The disgusting racism in the Immigration thread

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,057 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Again, saying things that were not said…you cannot interpret or comprehend things at times. Saying something is not wrong does not mean it's automatically okay.

    People can have middle views on things. I am not surprised with you, as you also said that I said brown people being called coloured was okay….when you know I didn't say this, but now don't have the manners to admit this.

    I mean, personally I'd say that it's not wrong and not right. I'd say it's maybe unwise term or slightly inapproroarte term. That doesn't then make the term OKAY. Your issue that you cannot grasp this.

    And just think of this, and all you are hanging this "you're a racist card" on: People of colour vs. coloured people. I have no issue thinking the first phrase is better to use, while also thinking the second pharse, albeit not wrong in my view, is not the best term to use….you then want to bang the you're a racist drum at me….



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,632 ✭✭✭Yeah Right


    Just think about your postings for a second…you have been on and on trying to label people racists based off the misuse of words. Think about that. It's just very strange. And you don't want to even discuss, back down, meet half way. It's your're a racist, end of.

    No I haven't. I've labelled you a racist, because you use racist terminology to refer to people of different races. Even after it was explained to you, you refused to correct yourself and continue to do so. This makes you racist….not just in my book, but in your own. You think you're racist yourself, going by your definition of the word.

    and why would I back down and agree with you, that would be just giving in to the demands of a racist.

    Accusing posters of saying black people are coloured when they did not

    They fcuking did, remember?…….."the lack of coloured newsreaders"

    accusing me of saying it's okay to call a brown person coloured, when I did not.

    Yes you fcuking did, remember?….."Now, non black and non white (aka brown) people. To refer to this group as coloured….do I think it is wrong? Not really."

    Then trying to say misusing the people of colour vs Colored people is no different than soeone shouting the N word at a group of black people.

    Nope, that's not what happened. I'm not gonna keep repeating myself, everyone reading the thread can see what I said and what you've said. You are blue in the face refusing to acknowledge the points being put to you and avoiding all the uncomfortable questions, and now you have to resort to countering arguments that I'm not even making. Mischaracterising someone's point because you cannot argue against it is just bottom of the barrel stuff. This is a desperate attempt to salvage any sense of dignity from the thread after you outed yourself as a racist by saying it's okay to call non-white people coloured.

    It's clear you don't want a reasoned and civil debate, and that it's way more about trying to trip up so you can throw this racist card at me/others.

    I'd love a reasoned and civil debate. Can you point me in the direction of someone, please, who is capable of holding one?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,070 ✭✭✭Grab All Association


    Really grasping at straws here to get the thread locked.

    As for these disgusting post that other posters have requested you provide proof of, we're still waiting for them to be shared here.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,632 ✭✭✭Yeah Right


    This is a stinking pile of self-contradictory BS.

    If it's not wrong, then it's right. These are the only two options. It is not right to call brown people coloured. In any context.

    That's it, end of story. You can pretend otherwise, but just be aware that everyone else can see this is just a sad attempt at pretending you're not racist after you said it is right to call brown people coloured. The mask slipped. Own it. Or don't…….like I give a fcuk about some random racist on boards.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,893 ✭✭✭El Gato De Negocios


    Thats the card you are gonna play is it?

    Completely and utterly ignore the multiple requests to back up your evidence and try to say Im picking on you by asking you to prove any type of supporting evidence for your vile claims.

    As anticipated, you havent a leg to stand on so I will not further quote you or engage with you.

    The lies you have been peddling have been exposed and are here for users, mods, cmods and admins to see.

    I take huge satisfaction in that.

    Good day to you.😊



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,057 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    But you have spent page after page wanting to throw the you're a racist card about, and now you don't give a fcuk?

    Its simple, and clear now: Your tolerance for these debates about immigration and ethnicities and all that is ridiculously low, and as soon as anything is said that looks/feels or is racist, forget debate and context and all that…straight to your card!

    I'm out….



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 29,963 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    In your opinion.

    That's all this is. An opinion.

    If you consider it racist, that's your perogative. Others however will look at the context and intent as I referred to.

    However, the world is rarely as black and white (no pun intended!) as you suggest. If you see racism everywhere then that's what you'll see and be triggered by. Not, I'd suggest, a healthy way to live.

    Thankfully in the real world beyond the Internet and at least in Ireland, the concept of "a bit of cop on" is still a thing.

    Either way it doesn't need page after page belabouring the point.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,632 ✭✭✭Yeah Right


    I'm not debating anything about ethnicities or immigration or anything of the sort. You know this. You are deliberately trying to mischaracterise my argument because you cannot counter my actual argument. Calling anyone coloured, when you know what that means, is racist. You can defend anyone all you want, that doens't make you any less racist for using a racist word in a racist context.

    You've been 'out' for ages. You outed yourself, remember, Mr "I don't think it's wrong to call brown people coloured".



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,057 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    You see and feel everything as racist…..that's your world, not mine! Like I said your bar ridiculously low. And of course I am out, as how can anyone debate/discuss with a person who wants to see racism in anything you do and say!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,632 ✭✭✭Yeah Right


    In your opinion.

    That's all this is. An opinion.

    If you consider it racist, that's your perogative. Others however will look at the context and intent as I referred to.

    No, not in my opinion. Calling someone who is not white "coloured" is racist. That is a fact, not an opinion.

    However, the world is rarely as black and white (no pun intended!) as you suggest. If you see racism everywhere then that's what you'll see and be triggered by. Not, I'd suggest, a healthy way to live.

    I'm a) not triggered, and b) not seeing racism everywhere. I do see it here, however, when a poster calls anyone who's not white 'coloured' and I also see it when wlashy over here stands up on his soapbox and shouts "it's not wrong to call brown people coloured".

    That's not seeing it everywhere. That's calling it out where it exists.

    Either way it doesn't need page after page belabouring the point.

    Stop replying to me then. I've made my point and spent the rest of the day defending it from someone who was deliberately misconstruing it to mean something else because they couldn't counter the real point.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,634 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    How about this for a bit of flaming complete with pictures from a very dubious source , and emojis on people's faces .?

    Grab All AssociationRegistered Users, Registered Users 2Posts: 4,066 ✭✭✭ 19-06-2026 12:30am

    The data on nationalities allocated council housing is going to be so damaging for the government.

    I posted proof last week I was sent from a friend in my native Thurles of how housing that is specifically designed for the elderly is now getting allocated to foreigners. This housing is adapted for elderly/infirm disabled people.

    A reminder below of this.

    1000009756.png 1000009754.png

    Now did you post that to give me an example or are you genuinely worried about disabled housing ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,632 ✭✭✭Yeah Right


    No I don't. This is you, for the 5th time, pretending that I'm some hair-trigger super-woke lefty who calls everyone (and everything) a racist.

    I don't.

    I'm calling you a racist because you expressed a racist ideology.

    You're getting the hump because you were called out on it. You even tried to pretend that's not really what you meant a lil while ago, but seem to have abandoned that now.

    Now you're pretending that I'm simply being unreasonable, after I took umbrage at you making an overtly and deliberately racist statement.

    Again, this is you attacking the poster, not the post, because you can't attack the post.

    Your race is run, you've been found out, now you're taking your ball home with you and claiming victory after I wiped the floor with your racist bollocksology and failure to even conduct yourself properly in a reasoned debate. You go ahead and leg it with your tail between your legs and leave the the other stuff to the grown ups, there's a good lad.

    And again: you accused me of having no tolerance in the debate about immigration. Not once have I said anything about immigration. I told you this and you've abandoned the immigration point and jumped straight to 'you see racists everywhere', which is equally untrue. You're throwing piles of sh1t at the wall and hoping that something will stick. It's like debating with a child.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,704 CMod ✭✭✭✭Ten of Swords


    @Goldengirl am I interpreting this correctly?

    Post 214

    It's not up to me or other posters to produce posts on this thread where we probably will get sanctioned for doing that . It's up to mods and admins to take action on a thread that is constantly promoting hate. Hateful speech and generalised commentary about race creed and colour which was contrary to Boards rules prior to all the messing around with those rules last year.

    "zOMG there's racist posts in the immigration thread"

    "OK, can you give me an example?"

    "Don't be ridiculous, it's not my job to do that"

    You don't have to do it publicly on this thread, you can PM the details to any CA moderator. I've had numerous PMs about this feedback thread already.

    You saw fit to bump this thread so lets have your list of racist posts please? Don't expect any further engagement from me without this list.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,634 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    And another !

    And I think the mods , Cmods and Admins know pretty well who is telling big fat porkies here ...clue it isn't me !

    But this is neither constructive nor helpful do I will go back to bypassing your posts .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,634 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    Just quoted one there and will send any more I see on to you.

    By the way those comments are from others interpreting my original post not from me ToS .

    Some have been actioned since I posted so thanks Rawr .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,057 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    The only one found out is you, on page after page with your "you're a racist" card. It's on you, this. Not me.

    Most sensible and level-headed folks can spot it a mile away, your views and your wanting to throw the racist card any opportunity you get. You just have to look at how it started: Jumping on a poster to claim racism completely incorrectly. It's like you couldn't help yourself, and then signing off your above post so patronizingly.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,073 ✭✭✭MojoMaker


    You're as bad as each other walshb and Yeah Right and a perfect example of how sh1t Boards is in the last few years.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,057 ✭✭✭✭walshb




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,641 ✭✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    No, not in my opinion. Calling someone who is not white "coloured" is racist. That is a fact, not an opinion.

    It's not all, as they say, black and white. In some circumstances 'coloured' is the accepted term, and nowadays 'person of color' can be problematic, racist even...

    The term "colored" was originally equivalent in use to the term "person of color" in American English, but usage of the appellation "colored" in the Southern United States gradually came to be restricted to "Negroes",[11] and it is now considered a racial pejorative.[12] Elsewhere in the world, and in other dialects of English, the term may have entirely different connotations, however; for example, in South Africa, "Coloureds" refers to multiple multiracial ethnic groups and is sometimes applied to other groups in Southern Africa, such as the Basters of Namibia.

    Many critics of the term [person of color] both white and non-white, object to its lack of specificity and find the phrase racially offensive.[27][28][29] It has been argued that the term lessens the focus on individual issues facing different racial and ethnic groups,[30] particularly African Americans whom Michael Holzman argues ignores the specific legacy of historical disadvantage in the United States.[31] Preserving "whiteness" as an intact category while lumping every other racial group into an indiscriminate category ("of color") replicates the marginalization that the term was intended to counter.[32]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Person_of_color



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,894 ✭✭✭Patrick2010


    No doubt I’ll be labelled a racist but when did it become racist to describe a non white person as coloured? What is the correct term?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,070 ✭✭✭Grab All Association


    Very genuinely worried about housing for the elderly allocated to middle aged foreigners. As a taxpayer who like other tax payers in this thread own a stake in these houses through taxation and LPT paid to these counculs, as a native of Thurles, that still goes back there once a week knowing people from around the town and surrounds who were higher priority than these economic migrants.

    Under the Tipperary County Councils allocation scheme adopted 01 February 2024, these houses built in 1978 are still designated as "Older Person Dwellings" they aren't supposed to be allocated to person not who are not elderly. I know these houses very very well because my father and his friends worked on the construction of them in the late 1970s. It was something they were very proud to point out.

    Allocation of this house breached the councils very own allocation rules.

    If you want I can actually produce someone who lived in one of these type houses. His mother died in 2023. The person was relocated because they weren't allowed to inherit the tenancy as they are designated "older person dwellings"

    Now I asked you to please show proof of these disgusting racist posts. There's nothing racist about wanting a county council to stick to the rules they adopted r.e allocations



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,634 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    So that's why you posted that link and those awful pictures .

    Sure I agree with all that …so that is alright then?

    The fact that you can provide proof of anything does not take away from the fact that the pictures and link were racist.

    Now if you had posted instead what you posted above there could have been a decent discussion about it and you would find more people would listen and engage .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,449 ✭✭✭Jizique


    A comment I made saying that it was almost impossible to distinguish the French from the Senegal soccer team was described as racist.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,057 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Well, that's the absolute absurdity of some people. Throwing around the racist card for these incredibly benign utterings. A poster on here labeling me a racist because I said I didn't think the term coloured person/people was wrong. They want to see racism everywhere and want to call people racists at the drop of a hat.

    Apparently the correct term is the oh so different…..Person of colour!!! As if it's some sort of mathematical proof and that only this term can work..and any deviation is you being a racist!!! That's the mentality on display.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,603 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    Racism is not dead, but it is on life support — kept alive by politicians, race hustlers and people who get a sense of superiority by denouncing others as "racists."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,057 ✭✭✭✭walshb




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,070 ✭✭✭Grab All Association


    What's racist is the fact the someone that was paying rent, on carers allowance and had to leave this type of dwelling when his mum died because the rules on inheritance, but someone that doesn't fit the criteria for this type of house is accommodated. Has probably never contributed a single cent to this country and claimed benefits since arriving here.

    On the one hand you had a guy with moderate learning difficulties who had to change his mothers nappies and he struggled to get palliative care nurses out to the house.

    Vs

    Someone that is primarily here for benefits.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,634 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    Glad you think this display of ignorance on your part is funny

    Is it really worth continuing ?

    Like when you agreed with Bertie's comments and could not see why they might be considered racist ?

    I think you know what you are saying alright .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,057 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Everyone agreed that Bertie’s comments could be perceived as racist. And you know this. Nowhere did I say the comments were not racist. The debate was around the context etc.. and as said, even a person of color on BOC show stressed that although his comments were racist, it didn’t auto mean he was a racist person. I agreed with his comments that we should not be taking in more immigrants from the Congo. Shoot me!!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,634 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    That is the discussion that should have been had on the thread ..

    Not the link you posted, twice now .

    That's my point.

    There is many a discussion where posters express their differing opinions . No need for any ire or name calling .

    Posting stuff like that cheapens the debate and reduces everyone who partially agrees with the post to the level of those that produce such images .

    You didn't produce that , I take it ?



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