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FI Charts ( T120+ onwards) Summer 2026 **READ MOD NOTE IN FIRST

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,308 ✭✭✭John.Icy


    Charts aren't as good today as recent days in terms of a nice high pressure cell centred right over us…though the AI models still seem more bullish on a greater push of high pressure north.

    But some really staggering heat plumes on the move north still remains a big trend.

    We still look like being on the right side of ridging for now, so lots of warm to hot weather to come potentially. Could be some NW/SE splits if the high doesn't ridge far enough north. But plenty of warm air about.

    Could get seriously hot if one of these plumes hits us. Looks more solid the SE of England once again will sizzle.

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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,433 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    todays GFS 12z currently rolling out not very encouraging for high pressure any time soon. We get a plume of major heat which pushes north-eastwards over France and into the UK but this misses Ireland completely and into next week the Atlantic takes over for most of North-Western Europe.

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    In short the North Atlantic has loads of energy and high pressure really struggles to get anywhere near us and any feeling of warmth will be a glancing blow. If we are still looking at this pattern 2 weeks from now on the FI charts it may be time to start getting worried. For England and Wales this is a big downgrade on the duration of warm to hot weather there so this could be an outlier.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,308 ✭✭✭John.Icy


    Yes, output like a lot of the classic summer plumes where you flick on the telly and it's scorching at Wimbledon and you look out the window and it's cloudy and 17-20c.

    Just can't seem to get a sustained push of heights far enough north to take over. It's been some two weeks now if the models toying with high pressure building but slowly retreating and flattening things again, too much westerly momentum in the Atlantic. SE of the UK can get away with this, sometimes the E/SE of Ireland too…it's how we can get those random largely sunny warm days in Dublin, while out West it's cloudy and cooler.

    UKMO 12z looks better with the high still nudging north towards us. But if it rolled on how would it look?

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    Nonetheless, even on the flatter charts, the airmass is still that bit warmer than early June so we should have better temperatures moving forward, for the east anyway.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 13,545 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    Not seeing the very high temps ( mid to high 20's ) of previous runs a few days ago but not too bad all the same from the ECM.

    GFS is not showing heights as good and has lower temps. ACCESS-G looks quite warm overall and UKMO initially looking warm as John Icy said above. In general the ECM showing areas getting high teens to low 20's and at the end of the run showing up into the mid 20's at times. GFS much lower on latest run and cool nights for the time of year so a big difference between the models really, I note though that the GFS 0Z was looking more like the current ECM, will see if there is more alignment one way or the other tomorrow. I get the feeling the GFS might be under doing it and showing it to be too cool but will see.

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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,433 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    GFS 12z is a total flip to yesterdays script, instead of flat pancake westerlies we now have proper heat across the entire country starting from Monday and becoming very warm to hot in places and this also includes the north-west of the country.

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    what can possibly go wrong!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,029 ✭✭✭Lucreto




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,380 ✭✭✭squarecircles


    classic Gfs, it will flip flop and prick around with this scenario for a few more days, building up our hopes….and then….

    Watch the ECM show the exact opposite this evening, you could set your watch to this scutter…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,994 ✭✭✭.Donegal.


    Not to be miserable. I read on netweather that GFS is 6th place when it comes to verification these days. New AI models knocking it down but it’s behind GEM as well.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,656 ✭✭✭✭sryanbruen


    That is correct though that only refers to the operational as far as I'm aware. Not sure what the verification is like for the ensembles. If I were to give the GFS credit compared to any other model is that on the occasions we do get extremes, it will pick up a signal on them better than the others do including the ECM though that will also make it throw out some whacky runs in of itself whereas say ECM is more grounded.

    Photography site - https://sryanbruenphoto.com/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,380 ✭✭✭squarecircles


    annnd bingo, the ECM shows the exact opposite with the cut of low slobbering itself up over us.



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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,433 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    The GEM is the most convinced that there will be fairly significant warm up next week.

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    GFS is going for something similar but with more scatter than the GEM, the GFS is not totally convinced yet. ECM says no for the most part, it does turn a bit warmer but remains mostly Atlantic based.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 440 ✭✭Condor24


    Pity GFS is being written off more and more these days. The magic 20c 850hpa line comes close to and indeed over the south and southeast within the reasonably reliable time frame. 30+c widespread over inland counties if verified. I'd be happy with 22-25 and a few sunny days. Looks brutally hot for southern England and France. And I've just seen the UKMO run for next Wednesday. Sure 6 days but not a million miles away and it is record breaking levels here. 35c somewhere surely if verified. Some of the more savvy ones might pick out the charts and post. In winter we say get the toboggans ready, now I'd say cooling fans.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,656 ✭✭✭✭sryanbruen


    It's not even funny anymore, most insane UKMO run I've ever seen just casually with the 20C 850hPa through the entire country up to the central belt of Scotland and even getting widespread 23/24C.

    For context, July 2022, when Phoenix Park had 33.0C, had 20C over most but not all of the country with 23C to the east so it even beats that. Easily a widespread 30s scenario. But cloud and instability increased later in the morning to early afternoon hours in July 2022 which limited the potential.

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    GEFS 0z had plenty of hot runs in its ensemble as well, this one is for Castlebar! This is heatwave territory.

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    GEM and ECM are more mixed with somewhat "fresher" air coming out around the high pressure on Tue/Wed but are also warm with 10C+ @ 850hPa staying over Ireland through their runs.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,908 ✭✭✭JanuarySnowstor


    Have we ever seen these uppers before??

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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,433 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    next week starting to look serious on some of the models particularly the UKMO, but in reality we will probably get something more toned down with temperatures of 21 to 26C but it would be fascinating if this morning UKMO verified.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 440 ✭✭Condor24


    Red warnings eh JS? It's hard to believe they'd verify. Mid twenties is our level normally. That's mid thirties with the right combinations.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,981 ✭✭✭snowgal


    wowsa, that would be some heat!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,491 ✭✭✭Dazler97


    I've never seen those uppers before only 20⁰c that would mean possibly our record could be beaten hopefully



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 440 ✭✭Condor24


    Latest GFS somewhat downgrades the potential heat but it does this cyclical upgrade downgrade with hot weather. But still mid to high twenties inland at least during next week looking more likely now. We'll know for sure by the weekend.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 261 ✭✭Hairypoppins


    High 20s will do nicely



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,656 ✭✭✭✭sryanbruen


    I gave you your answer in my post above before you posted JS. Close but not quite.

    Photography site - https://sryanbruenphoto.com/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,380 ✭✭✭squarecircles


    i wonder what would happen, if anything, if we went into the mid 30s, tarmac melting, electrical circuits malfunctioning, would be interesting to see how our sub standard 3rd world infrastruture would cope.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,972 ✭✭✭Working class heroes


    Never been to a third world country, have you?

    Racism is now hiding behind the cloak of Community activism.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48 Deep_Six


    I knew that user would be along to pour negativity over the upcoming forecast.

    Miserable in good weather and miserable in bad weather.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 117 ✭✭paulhac


    I actually enjoy Squarecircles’s posts, they cheer me up in a strange kind of way😂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,756 ✭✭✭esposito


    They are bloody hilarious and cheer me up too!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,741 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    I for one hope the UKMO is over egging it. Low twenties to mid twenties is acceptable, anything above starts to get unpleasant. 15 years ago temperatures in the high twenties to low 30s would not bother me, but now they do



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,491 ✭✭✭Dazler97


    I know but I want our record temperature beaten just so it's no longer 33.3c we have the second coldest highest temperature with Iceland below us at 30c



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,985 ✭✭✭Billcarson


    Thinking of the potential heat for next week has me sweating already 😫🤣.

    I'd much rather more in the way of pleasant warmth. That heat to our south will probably get us sooner or later. Unlike the mid Jan to mid Feb period where the cold to our Northeast couldn't reach us. Seems to be alot easier for heat to reach us these days then cold spells.....



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 107 ✭✭Tzmaster90


    it would be fascinating what are you smoking it will be too hotttttttttttt.



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