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US/Israel conduct airstrikes on Iran again

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,816 ✭✭✭✭Jelle1880


    Which are all susceptible to attacks. There is already an existing one from the UAE to Oman and it took a single Iranian missile to shut it fully down.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,898 ✭✭✭combat14


    terms are so bad trump could be using it to drum up more support back home to continue and conclude war



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,614 ✭✭✭JohnDoe2025


    https://www.theguardian.com/business/2026/may/15/uae-oil-pipeline-strait-of-hormuz-by-2027

    It is starting.

    If, in a future war, Iran attacks the pipelines, it will be committing suicide because its facilities will be wiped out. No matter how this war is painted in the short term, the long-term effects of Iran pulling the level of closing Hormuz will backfire on them completely. The next time this flares up, it will be bypassed and Iran won't be able to exercise the same leverage.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,816 ✭✭✭✭Jelle1880


    They were supposed to be wiped out this time too. Hell, some on here still believe they were.

    Iran already hit the Habshan-Fujairah facility earlier in this war, there's nothing to indicate they won't do it again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,115 ✭✭✭rapul




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,947 ✭✭✭enricoh


    Will the plastics, fertilizer, aluminium etc go through these pipelines also?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,942 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    What a load of nonsense. Every political analyst acknowledges that Iran have new leverage that they can use for many years.

    Most of the gulf oil goes East but in your desperate attempt to defend Trump/Netanyahu's failed war, you think they will build a pipeline west to the Med to then ship this oil east? A longer route back down the Suez canal to another bottleneck? You need to get an atlas and read this thread from the start.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth house?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,637 ✭✭✭brickster69


    US and Iran signed the deal electronically last night which has been confirmed by both sides. Ceremony still to take place on Friday

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    The old world is dying, and the new world struggles to be born: now is the time of monsters. — Antonio Gramsci



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,478 ✭✭✭dmcdona


    Indeed - Hezbollah are currently doing their master's bidding and wiping Israel off the map.

    How is that wiping off the map going exactly?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,478 ✭✭✭dmcdona




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,637 ✭✭✭brickster69


    As Kissinger famously said “It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal.”

    JD Vance says Iran may get $300 billion which will be paid by the Gulf states. Quite an expensive mistake having those bases on your land, probably they will have to pay to replace the equipment and damage for what is left of them as well.

    Can you imagine getting involved in a war, causing loads of death and destruction and then just walk off and pass the bill onto the countries that you dragged into it. Very expensive to get involved in America's adventures.

    The old world is dying, and the new world struggles to be born: now is the time of monsters. — Antonio Gramsci



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,468 ✭✭✭Tazz T


    Trump is in trouble now. Iran says as per the agreement Israeli hostilities must end against lebanon from day one. israel says they will remain in Lebanon and have 'freedom of military action'.

    Destabilising the middle east since day one.

    And up go oil prices again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,749 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    Yes. The war has been a monumental disaster. 60 billion to replace a Khamenei with a Khamenei. Genius! The art of the deal by Donald J Trump.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,478 ✭✭✭dmcdona


    Exterminating 50,000 Palestinian women and children is a pretty damning provocation.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,942 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    The EU will suffer too. The lag effect on our economy from the supply shock is only starting to hit.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth house?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,942 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    Ah here, the conflict with Hezbollah started long before Oct 7th. I already told you Israel invaded the Lebanon 6 times and there have been many Lebanese detained in Israeli prisons and Israel have taken Lebanese lands before. I am not excusing either side's actions but you don't seem to care or understand the history. Hezbollah were always going to resume firing rockets once the Hamas terrorists attacked Israel (There had been a very shaky ceasefire with Hezbollah-IDF since the 2006 war). Israel have already killed nearly 8,000 people in Lebanon since Oct 7th. 3,800 Lebanese killed in the past few weeks. These are big numbers by the way. Real people.

    Anyway, I notice you have stopped answering my questions and we were doing so well. Here it is again from my previous post:

    Q. Would you agree that Hezbollah increased hostilities due to the genocide in Gaza?

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth house?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 10,056 ✭✭✭✭SeanW


    I just don't post on boards all the time. But, yes, you admit that it was Hezbollah who kicked off the latest round of hostilities? Yes or No?

    And why are you assuming that Hezbollah needed a reason to attack Israel?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 10,056 ✭✭✭✭SeanW


    BTW Hezbollah had started the previous Israel-Lebanon war in 2006:

    2006 Lebanon War - Wikipedia

    This was AFTER, Israel had withdrawn from Southern Lebanon in 2000. After the active phase of the conflict, the UNSC demanded Hezbollah likewise withdraw from Southern Lebanon. They didn't.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 10,056 ✭✭✭✭SeanW


    They're not expecting to do it overnight, they need the help of their stooges in the West to pursue things like BDS.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 10,056 ✭✭✭✭SeanW


    What terrorists were Israel supporting in Lebanon? And BTW thing Israel was doing to Gaza before 7/Oct/23 was letting their government bring in suitcases full of cash.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,749 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    I never said they were supporting terrorists in Lebanon. As already mentioned they have done it in Syria and Gaza.

    Hamas came to prominence in the 80s thanks to Bib's arch foe , Yitzshak Shazmir. Yet the irony is Bibi for the same ideological reasons also decided to prop up Hamas. He also bragged about supporting an Isis aligned militia in Gaza in recent months.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 10,056 ✭✭✭✭SeanW


    This Syria? Everyone and their granny has been involved in the Syrian conflict. Let's not pretend that Israel would be some kind of outlier.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,749 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    So are you now saying its ok for states to support terrorism or does it depend on which state is doing it? I ask because you previously condemned Iran for doing so, but that seems hypocritical since you now say everyone does it. Perhaps a consistent position would be to condemn every state that see fits to aid terrorists.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 10,056 ✭✭✭✭SeanW


    I didn't say it was OK, I noted that there were a wide variety of countries meddling in Syria. A fact you failed to mention … guess it wasn't relevant …

    As to Israel supporting jihadis, it should be noted throughout history that sometimes even the most bitter enemies can sometimes set aside severe and fundamental differences to deal with a bigger enemy. The US and the Soviets during WWII. The Nationalists and the Communists of China during the same era. I don't think the same is true of Iran and (for example) Hezbollah, both Shia entities, nor of Iran and the former Syrian government, both part of the Shia Crescent.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 346 ✭✭StarryPlough01


    @engineerws; I’ll try to answer your questions as best I can.

    My concerns are Congress won’t cut Netanyahu off. Their (politicians including Democrats!!) campaigns are funded by the Jews (i.e., just about everyone from AIPAC, special interest groups, wealthy individuals…). These Jews have worked to get leverage for years - they have influence. You would have heard 'the US is in service of a foreign power'. Congress will threaten to bring down the economy - the stock market - their investments - everyone will turn on Trump - exerting their influence - money.… Of course, old money will be able to weather the storm - gold and diamonds, property, arms, military might - people own armies.

    TO-DATE with the war in Iran (the war Trump was talked into by Netanyahu), we have the status quo with no regime change . They haven’t destroyed Iran’s military capabilities - according to US classified intelligence estimates and briefings, Iran has retained 70% of its pre-war missile stockpile and 70% mobile launchers (making it hard for US to locate and destroy)… ⬇️

    “U.S. Intelligence Shows Iran Retains Substantial Missile Capabilities”
    https://www.nytimes.com/2026/05/12/us/politics/iran-missiles-us-intelligence.html

    “Most alarming to some senior officials is evidence that Iran has restored operational access to 30 of the 33 missile sites it maintains along the STRAIT OF HORTMUZ, which could threaten American warships and oil tankers transiting the narrow waterway.
    [...]
    Iran still fields about 70 percent of its mobile launchers across the country and has retained roughly 70 percent of its prewar missile stockpile, according to the assessments. That stockpile encompasses both ballistic missiles, which can target other nations in the region, and a smaller supply of cruise missiles, which can be used against shorter-range targets on land or at sea.

    “Military intelligence agencies have also reported, based on information from multiple collection streams including satellite imagery and other surveillance technologies, that Iran has regained access to roughly 90 percent of its underground missile storage and launch facilities nationwide, which are now assessed to be “partially or fully operational,” the people with knowledge of the assessments said.

    AND, as you know, Iran’s nuclear operations are largely intact. Their centrifuges remain unbroken and their stockpiles of uranium are still viable - they can make nuclear material. ⬇️

    BBC article about Pentagon intelligence assessment of the attack on 3 nuclear facilities in Iran:
    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ckglxwp5x03o

    “But sources familiar with the Pentagon's intelligence assessment say Iran's centrifuges are largely "intact" and the impact was limited to above-ground structures.

    “Entrances to two nuclear facilities were sealed off, and some infrastructure was destroyed or damaged, but much of the facilities, which are deep underground, escaped the brunt of the blasts, the assessment reportedly found.

    At G7 being held in France right now (15-17 June), Trump can talk up his “victory“. But every attendee there will know Trump and Netanyahu’s joint Operation Epic Fury was an epic failure.

    The Pentagon’s silence is deafening around the 152 fatalities at the girls’ primary school in Minab, southern Iran, on 28 February. 26 teachers were also killed by the confirmed US Tomahawk cruise missiles. They haven’t given a final determination for the mass killings. I ‘m assuming Pete Hegseth was given a draft copy of the findings.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,816 ✭✭✭✭Jelle1880


    Israel already broke any ceasefire it seems.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,898 ✭✭✭combat14


    according to Vance the MoU is a very general document - sounds like more of a deal to talk about doing a deal - still loads to be figured out and yet agreed - this doesnt exactly inspire confidence that this war is in fact anyway over as yet..

    “The MoU … is about a page and half so it ‌is a very general document,” Vance ​said on CNN on Monday night, as he did the rounds of US networks to talk up the deal. “On a number of ​issues, ​we are ​going to ​have ‌to figure ​this ​stuff out during the technical negotiation phase.”



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,749 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    I didn't mention it as i wasn't disputing what you said- it was a tacit acceptance. The point is If It's wrong for Iran to support terrorists groups, then it's wrong for Israel to do it also. Furthermore, since you have an irrational fear of Israel disappearing, you should be vehemently oppose to Israel siding with Jihadists at any time. Both Shamir and Bibi were warned against doing so,but both chose to ignore it for ideological reasons



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,172 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    How does Iran respond if this keeps up? Do they attack Israel directly themselves? If the exchanges of fire are confined to Lebanon Trump will probably just shrug his shoulders, "Bibi's gonna Bibi, whatcha gonna do?"



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,637 ✭✭✭brickster69


    Worlds largest tanker operator says it will take time for ships to leave the Gulf. Insurers will obviously need to see that any agreement is working as it should. Ships entering will be even more cautious knowing that they could end up stranded for months on end and can easily go elsewhere instead.

    Wording of the agreement will be important especially if fighting is to be halted in Lebanon where Trump is now suggesting his former ISIS head chopper should get involved sorting out Hezbollah instead of Israel.

    Probably the best way to set the whole region on fire that would

    The old world is dying, and the new world struggles to be born: now is the time of monsters. — Antonio Gramsci



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