Clampdown on TV 'Dodgy Boxes'

Yes for resellers but they are not charged with copyright infringement. For the end user it is a civil matter as far as I am aware, which is why I asked for information that no one else posting here appears to have. 😉

I not talking about Linux wixards you fool.

Im talking about the average fella you stop on the street.

Even getting on boards is a challenge for some.

Your just avoiding my points now because you know I right.

The mask is slipping.

You still haven't responded to my point.

I think, going by a complete and utter lack of prosecutions up until today, that it would be pretty much impossible for sky to prosecute an end user.

Because someone has an IPTV subscription, it doesn't automatically mean that they're using it to avail of any of sky's programming, I mentioned earlier that I've colleagues who all have IPTV subs with the same outfit I use, they're all foreign nationals, and use it purely for their own countries TV offerings, they don't have the slightest interest in any of sky's drivel.

They (Sky) don't get to , and shouldn't be permitted to, police what people watch in their own living rooms here.

People suggesting end users being prosecuted are talking nonsense, and you would be forgiven for thinking there's some kind of an agenda behind it to be honest.

Just thought you might….with your commenting on the thread on sky Italy IPTV users prosecution status; preloaded firestick users vs tech savvy users; drug use; DJ carey; IPTV sellers scamming users and those users too embarrassed to challenge this; film companies unwillingness to shoot in Ireland due to the IPTV use; fools in this thread; clueless idiots here; whatsapp messages between users and suppliers; the challenge for some to get onto Boards; % of the population sky are aiming to stop; etc. etc.

Anyway, we both know sky are not close to prosecuting any of the 400000 users, but have written a minority of them letters.

Yes @dxhound2005 you have been clear on this throughout your posting, I'm just not so certain other posters have provided the same clarity or wish to.

Some of those strongly- worded letters can be very distressing you know !😳

I don't think it's just the broadcasters in it. I doubt they're helping matters, but there's also what sports leagues and so forth ask for the rights to show their games in the first place. It's kind of a feedback loop in that everyone along the chain jumps at the profit to be had and prices ramp up accordingly.

It's scary that rather than just tweak the model a bit and perhaps accept a bit less of a profit, but still a very healthy one, they're so committed to wealth extraction that force must be used. I think that bodes ill in a scope extending far beyond what it means for sports broadcasting.

but there's also what sports leagues and so forth ask for the rights to show their games in the first place.

This is very true.

It's the success of things like the EPL that drives up prices.

And it's often the same people who enjoy their teams success in either the EPL or Europe who complain about the price of Sky.

You can't have one without the other.

Cheaper TV subscriptions is less revenue for the clubs and therefore less money to buy big players.

And it doesn't matter who is supplying the broadcast, Sky or the EPL themselves, if the clubs want to stay competitive the price of watching will be high.

Well, then, footballers will just have to start accepting a bit less money. And by less money, I mean still more than enough to set you and your children up for life (and in style).

OK, not as simple as that, but the various interests along the chain do have to accept something of a reduction in revenue and accept a soft landing or hold out for maximum profit and come down to earth with a great crash as the bottom falls out of the whole industry.

It's essentially a rerun of the music piracy controversy, with the same beats being hit, but the most galling thing is how they try to put all the blame on the ordinary person instead of those at the top who are merrily price gouging. This is a far worse crime, despite its legality.