BusConnects Dublin - Bus Network Changes Discussion

As I said before, have a moan where it is valid and cogent. Contact Dublin Bus and complain about the perceived lack of use of the WS vehicles and see where that gets you.

Because DB are desperate for more buses. They really shouldn't be deployed, but they might not have a choice. They only appear to be on the L25 during peak times and the 44D itself is just peak-only, so I doubt this is a choice they are making because the capacity is sufficient, but because otherwise the service gets cancelled.

I assume DB is doing what they think they can get away with between maintenance schedules and no more.

They are revelant because you need to think how would these WS buses are registered in 2017, and its 2026 now, so that means they are 9 years old now, and they can be withdrawn at any time.

€7 mil cost so far to store and maintain the unused buses, according to NTA that was the cheapest option!

You'd complain if the other WS was sitting in the yard and you complain that both are out in service and making money too... Can't win

Indeed - this is a seperate initiative to the NGT scheme. On the TFI local link schemes this has rolled out to, it only allows you to purchase a single ticket fare. With NGT in place, you would instead be able to pay for multiple different tickets types. I believe even this current scheme will be replaced once the NGT rollout makes it to TFI local link services also.

Its the construction yard being used for the living streets upgrades being done in Blackrock. Its been going on for a while now, I believe its planned to be completed around October.

Crossposting this from the Luas expansion thread, as this draft plan for Dunsink also has some proposals for new and existing routes that'd be marked as under BusConnects in page 29. Most of them are extensions of existing routes, though the document also mentions a new local route linking Dunsink to Blanchardstown, as well as a possible new B5 route that would operate through Dunsink as part of the B Spine, which seems like a headscratcher to me

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The changes to the 36 and N6 as well as a new local route all would make a lot of sense. Especially assuming by this point DART+ West would be complete. However, I completely agree that the B5 proposal doesn't really make sense. I imagine this is the type of thing that they have not consulted with the NTA about.

It would be a complete outlier from the rest of the B-spine. Even the little loop through Corduff is going to be served by a radial instead of a B-spine route, so I doubt the NTA would want to now introduce a deviation to serve Dunsink. Then there is also the question of what it will do on the south side, or if the southern half of the B-spine even needs an additional route.

Considering what they are proposing to do with Dunsink, a dedicated radial following the B-spine from Navan Rd I think would be great, but I just don't think it makes sense for that to be the B5.

One of the great weaknesses of bus connects in my opinion is that it didnt include a non-spine radial that went the length of Ratoath Road and through stonwybatter and the quays to the city centre. An opportunity missed to connect a lot of trip generators with a proper radial service to the city centre.