Public Pay Talks - see mod warning post 4293

Dodge · 10-06-2026 02:57PM

you think people want to go on strike instead of waiting for an agreement late in the negotiations?

It’s just not based in reality

CramCycle · 10-06-2026 03:37PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124539992#Comment_124539992

But that agreement could be reached earlier, this fluting about and coming to what they knew they would get to weeks before is pointless and a source of discontent in recent years. It is very much based in reality, it is the system we have now, just condensed into a month.

The only difference between what I asked and what you are saying is i am saying don't wait months to do it.

Of course I should have said, at the end, go to your members and ask them to accept it or not, simples.

Dodge · 10-06-2026 04:50PM

but that’s what union officials are elected to do. They’re voted in/employed to do the negotiations so that they don’t need to vote on every proposal.

Obviously unions want it as quick as possible, but there’s two sides here and it’s in one of those side’s interest to make it as long and drawn out as possible. It’s clearly working too seeing as you think there’s discontent

Thinkpots · 10-06-2026 06:30PM

local bargaining increments to be applied shortly.

mickey49172 · 10-06-2026 08:38PM

who did you hear this from? I was told Apr/May and then June, none of my colleagues have heard either.

ledwithhedwith · 11-06-2026 03:28PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124540630#Comment_124540630

For who?

Thinkpots · 12-06-2026 12:41AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124542940#Comment_124542940

For does awaiting them

ledwithhedwith · 12-06-2026 06:52AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124544545#Comment_124544545

Sorry I ask because a lot havent been agreed even yet. Utter joke really.

pc7 · 13-06-2026 07:14AM

have any areas received the June 1%?

claregal1 · 13-06-2026 08:00AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124547562#Comment_124547562

Yes Revenue have.

HDonal · 13-06-2026 08:40AM

Culture, Communication and Sport have as well

gipi · 13-06-2026 09:12AM

I'm a DSP pensioner, got the 1% in last week's payroll

Sideview · 13-06-2026 10:01AM

Yes, received in Housing too.

pc7 · 13-06-2026 11:35AM

great thanks

AyeGer · 13-06-2026 01:13PM

Next deal should be at least 12% over 3 years. We were shafted in the last deal as it didn’t come anywhere near matching inflation.

Thesmallfarmer · 13-06-2026 02:40PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124548049#Comment_124548049

Of course it should but thats not going to happen

They will probably reduce ufc/income tax across the board and butter it up as part of the package .

Hotblack Desiato · 14-06-2026 02:06AM

Unfortunately we are so conditioned to shît deals at this stage, we will be made some stupid offer, the unions will proclaim it as the best thing since sliced bread and it'll be voted in by a large majority 🙄 "could be worse, eh" - well, yeah, but not by much.

BTW anyone especially pre-95s hoping that their pension will keep pace with wages never mind inflation in future, look at how CIE pensioners have been totally shafted for 20 years now, and they have no comeback whatsoever and no state old age pension to fall back on.

The state old age pension is still reliably increased in line with inflation (or much more when Bertie was in - he knew how to buy votes) as the electoral cost of not doing so is unthinkable. But nobody gives a shîte if "fat cat civil and public servants" get shafted - most would applaud it.

Hotblack Desiato · 14-06-2026 02:23AM

Incidentally there are some very interesting threads on Ask About Money about how the public sector unions are selling out their members in relation to AVCs.

https://www.askaboutmoney.com/forums/public-sector-pensions.61/

You can get far better deals yourself, especially if you engage an execution-only broker.

Go through the union-recommended ones, and Cornmarket etc skim off 5% of your investment on the way in - totally scandalous - as well as excessive annual fees.

The very minor downside of doing it yourself is that you have to arrange a direct debit instead of salary deduction (big deal) and have to claim back the tax relief, but on Revenue myAccount that's easier than it's ever been.

You'd seriously have to question why all of the public sector unions so staunchly recommend such bad deals to their members. Some palms are being greased that's for sure.

But if you can buy addtional years of service - for pre-2013s for certain - ignore all the noise about AVCs. Do this first. Prioritise it above paying down your mortgage. It's the best value going. It just doesn't have a salesperson on hefty commission recommending it to you…

pc7 · 14-06-2026 07:13AM

thanks HBD will take a look into it

caviardreams · 14-06-2026 08:35AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124549479#Comment_124549479

I don't agree that buying years always makes sense or is the best value. If you want certainty on your return then yes, that might be worth paying a premium for. In other cases AVCs maybe better value.

Hotblack Desiato · 16-06-2026 10:21PM

Well anyone who is considering an AVC should certainly look into added service first. Problem is, it's not in the interest of whoever is trying to sell you an AVC (and pocket their commission) to point that out.

caviardreams · 16-06-2026 10:29PM

TBF in most cases the designated broker's role is to advise on / execute AVCs not to provide general pension or wealth advice.

AVCs offer far more flexibility and other advantages over buying service particularly for those unmarried / without children

It's really not clear cut at all

fergald · 17-06-2026 12:32AM

The point I think that’s trying to be made is that the unions are advertising this as a reason to join a union, a benefit a benefit for new members. I wonder have Forsa etc done due diligence here on behalf of new members.

TikTak22 · 17-06-2026 09:14AM

Purchasing service should always be the first port of call for those who are eligible.

joe1979 · 18-06-2026 09:01PM

https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2026/0618/1579184-public-pay-talks/

joe1979 · 18-06-2026 09:17PM

https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2026/0618/1579184-public-pay-talks/

combat14 · 18-06-2026 10:08PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124548049#Comment_124548049

the central bank already warning of possible 5% inflation for 2027 - very hard to do 3 year deals at this rate

12% or 4% a year could be worth less than inflation and thats even before government slaps taxes on it again

hard to get union members trust when there is still no sign of local bargaining from september last year......

Paddy_Mag · 18-06-2026 10:13PM

My brother is a civil servant (enterprise) and he was telling me DPER are pushing for greater office presence as part of the negotiations

Any truth in it?

Heiser · 18-06-2026 10:33PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124557020#Comment_124557020

Not true. In most circumstances, but not all. If you plan to retire early for example with CNR it's usually better to do AVCs over purchasing service.

CramCycle · 18-06-2026 11:21PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124561785#Comment_124561785

It would have to be made up because it would be unenforceable with so many local agreements, the fact that many don't actually work at an office at all, as well as the concept of a government department pushing for office attendance to increase while commuting traffic is so high.

At best it's a flag waving exercise for the union leadership to say, we stopped that happening, more likely ita the random rumour mill of made up BS.

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