Greenways [greenway map of Ireland in post 1]

The stretch between the ferry port at Glenbrook and Monkstown in Cork is finally finished.

Options report does not commit them to doing so but strongly suggests it will. I very much hope it will.

It would be mad not to, despite the cost. It would be something which would attract huge numbers of people and would practically advertise itself. Integrate sheltered seating/picnic spots along it, would be amazing.

The Lea to Sea greenway is very slowly coming together, I believe the cycle connection from the City Centre to Ballincollig via the Carrigrohane Rd is planned as part of the flood defense work (whenever that will happen). The Bridgemount section in Carrigaline is finished. I'm hoping it will extend to N28, unfortunately the M28 built over the original line so it would have to go through the Fairhill Rd underpass. There's a new bridge near the Sail Garden, I don't know if this finished by now but I hope to have a pop down there soon to find out. Although the road isn't too bad to cycle on, I would personally love to see the Raffeen section being worked on soon 🤞

Yes it appears to be very very slow progress altogether. I suppose there has been some progress the last few years, progress at Ballincollig Regional Park, the Marina, Blackrock greenway, this section at Passage, Bridgemont in Carrigaline and a new bridge in Carrig also.

Still it is very frustratingly slow, some sections if done would really improve usage I believe, and have a massive local, younf population.

Such as: Ballincollig to Kingsley, City Centre to Marina, Blackrock Pier to Village, Hartys Quay to Passage, Passage to Rafeen. They are not huge projects (say unlike the Kinsale greenway), but if delivered, would really connect places easily and draw more users.

I agree, vey little talk since end of lockdown days. I used follow a twitter page "Lee to Sea" for example. But everything seems to die down, very little from Cork City council especially, very little ambition with AT projects

I was on Facebook this morning, and I saw an ex-county councillor and a few others were at the High Court in Dublin during the week. Trying to stop the proposed greenway into Passage West, concerns over loss of the car park, knocking of trees and a green space etc. Again legitimate concerns for sure, that need to be worked out, but again zero alternatives or solutions proposed by the group, just a NO. Passage West has huge potential, it really could be a lovely waterfront town, the greenway would be a huge addition to the area. There are very limited pubs/restaurants in the town

I think their issue is woth Patrick Murphy park to the playground, the loss of trees, green space and parking here to widen the greenway.

The greenway itself isn't so bad here, a bit narrow. Maybe if they focused on the other side and connected Monkstown to Passage, that might be an easier build!

I agree. You can’t widen on the Cork side of Father Matthew Park as there is water on both sides. It is the same width on that stretch as the remainder of the greenway to Hop Island so not sure how there is a big gain to be made. Perhaps I am missing something obvious!

It's funny but it's almost always the car parks tbh. For any public realm scheme you could remove ten playgrounds easier than you could remove ten parking spaces in general.

Around 75% of letters and around 40% of emails were "organised" (either word-for-word copy/paste, or CC'ing a central "shared" email address). Not that it negates their input but just noting that there was quite an organised lobby against this one. Less than a quarter of respondents were actually within the route corridor.

TLDR: Project team needs to win over the antipendent Ireland TD's

I only skimmed the report, is that the case! I’m devastated if true. This is orchestrated by a minority militant anti-everything group. We just can’t have nice things in cork can we.

I’m just so pissed off that the anti greenway groups were able to peddle lies, fuel hysteria and fear all over a bloody greenway. Nobody called them out and stopped them. Helped by that dope Michael Collins. TD. I’m off now for a cycle and pray I don’t get knocked down on the small roads heading towards kinsale. God im so frustrated by people in this country

I read the report in more detail last night.

I was happy to see the report calling out "copy and paste" type submissions or ones from multiple families and same addresses.

Two parts of the report I found interesting and relevant

“At times, the scale of opposition from some attendees also created a challenging environment for meaningful engagement between the public and Project Team members. “

I was in the viaduct bar that day and I decided to leave, but the venue was a poor choice. The negativity and abuse thrown at the members of the project team was disgraceful and embarrassing. The people doing it should be ashamed.

“A number of narrative‑style submissions also indicated that some residents, including younger people and a number of landowners, felt discouraged from openly expressing support for the greenway due to the strength of local opposition and concerns about negative reactions from within the community, which may have contributed to lower levels of publicly expressed positive feedback.”

I live somewhat locally and I feared saying something positive about the greenway, last summer it really became a mob mentality. I just want to say that the vocal anti-greenway group locally are in the minority and do not represent the silent majority. Also the majority of this anti-greenway group are elderly, does anybody ever ask the kids or young people in the area?? The anti-greenway group used a lot of lies, fear mongering, pictures of demolished houses etc to get their message across.

lovely fotos and looks good in the sun.

I presume when Janeville is finished they can connect to Bridgemont and then maybe onto Rafeen.

How realistic is it to connect the new Carrigaline bridge to the Crosshaven greenway section?

Quoting an old post of mine that experienced the interactions of some by some of the people trying to drown out discussions on the Cork Kinsale Greenway