dowlingm wrote: »
So there's been quite a bit of discussion of greenways on threads like Western Rail Corridor (Train & Rail Systems) and I was thinking it might be useful to have a thread which pulls together both technical discussion (for example how greenways can co-exist with adjacent roadways or railways) and news (expansions of existing greenways / announcements of new ones)
According to the Connaught Tribune there are moves on getting on Galway-Clifden along the old rail line alignment. Is there anything else starting to reach firm proposals as opposed to discussion?
Minister for Transport Leo Varadkar has announced plans to develop a 200 kilometre off road cycle way run from Galway to Maynooth in Dublin, at a cost of around 30 million euro.
Sponge Bob wrote: »
This is 'phase 1' of a scheme announced some time ago by Noel Dempsey ( IIRC) and probably reannounced ad nauseum as 'smart and green' by Eamon Ryan and much of it running on former N Roads now R Roads with hard shoulders.
Its Varadkars turn to reannounce.http://www.galwaynews.ie/27780-galway-dublin-cycle-route-boost-local-economy
All he is REALLY doing is examining the feaibility of extending the restoration of the Royal Canal towpath from Kilcock (where the modern restoration currently ends 5 miles west of Maynooth ) ...to Mullingar.
That would be 30km so but 200km sounds much better. Expect Westmeath Co Co to propose the lifting of the Mullingar - Athlone railway line for the next section. :rolleyes::rolleyes:
The Idyll Race wrote: »
dubhthach wrote: »
has anything been announced about doing Galway <-> Clifden Greenway?
the retention of the Galway, Oughterard and Clifden Railway Acts 1872 and 1875 is necessary because of the planned greenway along the now disused railway. The original legislation contains legal points on land ownership and rights of way which will be vital to the successful implementation of the new greenway. <snip eulogy about Connemara> .........the construction of the greenway along the old railway line put in place by the Acts, which we are retaining in this Bill. A 2.5 m wide tarmacadam surfaced walking and cycling route from Oughterard to Clifden is with An Bord Pleanála under strategic infrastructure planning.
mayomaffia wrote: »
Has there ever been any discussion regarding having a parallel track to the greenway for waking horses ?
Imagine riding a horse along the the western greenway along clew bay ? It would attract lots of tourists, stables etc ?
It would also not be a track for racing but just a narrow lane for trotting slowly !!! Thoughts ?
gleesoneoin wrote: »
I have thought about this for a long time, as it seems that the western rail corridor could have much more potential if there was a direct connection to charleville from Limerick.
I think that it would be great if an off-road greenway was established along the old rail line here. That rail line is no longer in place, although croom still has the old railway station house, and possibly bruree..
It would be a great development. The impending construction of the M20 (probably will happen around 2020 if there is money) will possibly turn the existing N20 into exactly this, but the rail line would still be necessary for people who want to travel from Sligo to Cork and don't want to go by road.
Any thoughts on this
Sponge Bob wrote: »
I understand access issues meant it was split in 2. The western section, Oughterard-Clifden will be done first and access issues ( again) may mean it will start west of Oughterard for now. A portion will be onroad where the road was aligned onto the railway path in the 1960s.
A number of landowners in the Oughterard area have objected to the route going through their lands.
Sponge Bob wrote: »
Now official. http://www.galwaynews.ie/27910-landowners-object-oughterard-cycle-route
hi5 wrote: »
They didn't object when the rail lines were dismantled and the land was given to them for a token.
Cycling Campaign welcomes oral hearing into deeply flawed Clifden greenway proposals.
The Galway Cycling Campaign has welcomed the decision by An Bord Pleanala to hold an oral hearing into the proposed Oughterard to Clifden Greenway - describing the current proposals as "deeply flawed". Their concerns centre on a design that puts a recreational cycle path directly beside high-speed traffic on the N59 for at least 11km. The Cycling Campaign has identified a series of alternatives that would provide a more attractive route and avoid any need to CPO lands along the N59. They are hoping to hold a public meeting so that affected parties can share their concerns.
According to the cyclists, the proposal to develop a 50km Greenway from Oughterard to Clifden is welcome. If sensitively carried out, the scheme could create a huge asset for the community of West Connemara. They point out that the Western Greenway in Mayo has generated EU7million per year for the local community - indicating significant unmet demand for a particular cycling experience. However the cyclists say that the current scheme is incorrectly conceived, could fail to achieve its aims and could divert significant resources from more beneficial works. The planning appeals board has been asked to reject the scheme in its current format.
Over the entire 50km, long sections of the proposed scheme conform to the commonly accepted "greenway" concept (i.e. it is routed away from high-speed traffic). However, instead of being maintained as a traffic free greenway for the greatest possible distance, the route is to be incorporated into the existing N59 as a cycle path adjacent to fast moving motor traffic for between 11.7 and 14.6 kilometres or approximately 20% of its length. In the EIS carried out for the scheme, the alternatives to incorporating the cycle route into a high-speed road do not appear to have been given due consideration. Nor does any due consideration appear to have been given on the impacts of such traffic on cyclists - who will theoretically include family groups. Most regrettably, the worst affected section of the route could be considered the most scenic as it passes close to the Maamturks mountain range and the South Bens. It is imperative that an off-road solution be found here so that, rather than being distracted by traffic, users can fully enjoy and appreciate the spectacular scenery.
The Cycling Campaign has identified various alternative options that fulfil the greenway model. These include sections where the old Galway to Clifden railway bed is still available and sections of parallel minor roads including the original Galway-Clifden road. The alternatives provide a route away from high-speed traffic where the full benefits of a world class cycling route could be provided. In addition to providing a much more attractive route the alternative proposals avoid the need to CPO lands along the N59 itself.
gleesoneoin wrote: »
but the rail line would still be necessary for people who want to travel from Sligo to Cork and don't want to go by road.
A greenway trail for cyclists and pedestrians in Connemara in Co Galway has been approved by An Bord Pleanála.
The 52km track will run along the disused Galway to Clifden railway line.
Following an oral hearing late last year, An Bord Pleanála gave the project the go-ahead, subject to a number of conditions.
These include changes to the route originally proposed, so the greenway will be separated from the N59 road.
Concerns had been expressed about the proximity of an 11km stretch of the cycle path to the national secondary road.
The decision has been welcomed by the Galway Cycling Campaign. Spokesman Shane Foran said if the route was developed properly, it could transform tourism in the west of Ireland.
He pointed to the huge number of cycling tourists from across Europe who would be attracted to such an amenity.
Mr Foran said Co Galway is potentially at one end of a proposed cycle trail across Europe that would travel as far as Moscow, as part of the European Cycle Route Network.
Galway Bay FM wrote:
Galway County Council is now to seek funding from Failte Ireland to progress the Connemara Greenway project, which is estimated to cost nine million euro.
The development has been given approval by an Bord Pleanala this week subject to eight conditions.
The local authority will now speak with landowners and hope to develop the project over a period of two to three years.
It involves a route of 52 kilometres in length and involves a walk and cycle pathway of two and half metres wide, mainly along the old Connemara rail-line.
Liam Gavin, Senior Engineer with Galway County Council says it will have huge economic benefits and is excellent value for money.
serfboard wrote: »
Good to see that it's got the go-ahead, and (see the bolded bit) that it's being done right.
It seems the local council is going to look for 9 million for it from Bord Failte. Will they get it though?