Immigration and Ireland - MEGATHREAD *Mod Note Added 02/09/25*

Very impressive to be carrying on with that old bluster hard man shoite on an anonymous online forum.

Apologies but I am not sure I understand your point here. Why are you asking me this?

It wouldn't really make much sense for Nigeria, Sudan or Vietnam to be bases for Ukrainian refugees and the logic of practicality would dictate that Ukrainians would not end up there anyway right?

Beyond that, the examples you have chose are pretty interesting. Sudan is a major host country of refugees, close to 1 million from countries like South Sudan, Ethiopia, Eritrea etc. If you factor in their enormous population of internally displaced people they are dealing with a refugee crisis numbering in the millions. Considering the relatively poor state of that country's socioeconomic wellbeing, they are shouldering one of the greatest refugee burdens in the world.

Nigeria is the origin state of many IPAs but it too shoulders an enormous refugee burden in relation to the fact that it not only hosts many refugees from neighbouring countries but like Sudan also has a large internally displaced population, not least due to the fact that the country is dealing with active insurgencies within its borders.

I wouldn't be as knowledgeable on Vietnam (though I will be there in August so maybe will learn something!) but both Sudan and Nigeria are shouldering refugee burdens that would be scarcely comprehensible in Ireland.

You're a native irish person. Do you have some other understanding of the word "native" that you're play-acting at being silly with?

Here's a dictionary definition straight from a Google search:

Native typically describes someone or something associated with a specific place by birth, or an animal/plant that originates naturally in a given region. It can also refer to innate traits, original conditions, or the first language a person learns.

If the place or region is Ireland, then you're native to Ireland.

Have you a problem with this definition? Perhaps you have a different image of what "native" means? Perhaps you need to explain and defend your position on this?

Yeah but what's the alternative? I mean, if you have a global system of travel where it is easy to traverse huge distances if you can just get yourself on one plane, train or boat (which, by the way, is a system which we all demand) — coupled with the fact that each developed country on earth has precisely zero incentive to co-operate with Ireland so that they get all the IPAs and Ireland gets none — what do you actually do with the people who arrive?

They aren't contraband cigarettes after all. You can't just store them in a cupboard indefinitely or destroy them. The problem will always remain that when a human being is involved this will present a special difficulty. Even if they have the most laughable claim for asylum ever concocted it doesn't change the fact that they are human and this fact alone greatly affects the manner in which they can be dealt with, not least because (say) Belgium will have no real interest in taking them back on a return flight (and deporting them to an origin country has a lot of practical difficulty).

Who's telling you you're something else? And what is your understanding of what that "something else" is? Because you've clearly no idea what the meaning of the word "native" is. Or you're still play-acting at being silly.

The alternative is that the EU pays more than lip service to what is an EU bloc issue and not an individual MS matter. Belgium having no interest in taking a so called asylum seeker back should not be a discretionary decision. Either Belgium is responsible for looking after a human being fleeing for his life after landing in safe Belgium or not.

If the current EU mandated Emigration Policy is built on a nod and a wink system - let’s see what we can get away with - then let’s be transparent about it and call it for what it is rather than pussy footing around going on about our obligations as a EU Member State. Of course as we are almost at the end of the road we should just turn a blind eye to all the chancers and put them on a bus to NI and have a good giggle after

Looks like this monster had no reason to be a refugee. Born in a high profile family. Well we all know the quality of their high profile families.

https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-15892873/Sudanese-Belfast-knife-attack-suspect-policeman-Khartoum-heading-UK-winning-asylum-Britain-fast-track-scheme.html?ito=social-facebook&fbclid=Iwb21leASY22xleHRuA2FlbQIxMQBzcnRjBmFwcF9pZAwzNTA2ODU1MzE3MjgAAR5JhwmbOV0kAx-a2W9OTp71EF4L_7FyQaMRV5L-1AbTOqgHf1fmiqkQHzNcwg_aem_qzt-d88ngIo19zMNDcBU7Q

It's a self-appointed judge and jury attitude that prevails with some folk with a sprinkling of condescending thrown in on top for good measure. 'How dare the peasants speak like that, no matter what they say, they're wrong.'

They always run away when they get caught out too.

Agree more needs to be done at EU level, You can be sure though that our be nice politicians won’t be leading the charge on that crusade, unlike others that better align with the narrative.

If we were serious as a country we would be kicking up a storm with the Brits about this carry on

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2026/jun/12/ireland-asylum-seekers-northern-land-border

Why don't they stay in their own continent.

There are 54 countries in Africa, if someone has a problem in their own country there are 53 others to choose from.

No need to come to Ireland at all.

https://www.facebook.com/share/r/1FyFXxd4Cw/

Wonderful carry on at Citywest.

The EU leaders visiting next week and over the next few months need to see what is happening here. Embarrassing for our dear leaders who are sweeping it all out of sight

Obviously the colonial powers did huge damage in Africa and it will have had a long lasting legacy as we’ve all seen

But at what point does their own responsibility begin come into it?
Other former colonies are starting to do better comparatively. Countries like Korea were dirt poor, incredibly backward, as well as ravaged by war and they’re now amongst the most vibrant economies in the world.