Waterford GAA Thread - Mod note post #1

Looks to me like the Co. Board are determined to keep us on the merry-go-round, not giving the manager the support or time needed.
There has been a great improvement in the team this year, regardless results. That held promise for me for next year.
Now it is back to the beginning again with someone else.

I'm sorry for Peter, I really did hope it would have worked out for him but I am not surprised at all with today's announcement.

I said it before, he is an honest lad, Waterford through and through and would hold himself accountable. I have no doubt he would have had a plan and expected to get out of Munster within the two year window and not reaching that goal he knew himself would have been difficult to stay on for another year.

Someone said earlier that we were competitive this year and yes we were to a point but if we look at it realistically.

• Relegated in the league, two wins over Limerick and Offaly.
• 1 point in Munster. 6 point defeat to Clare, horrendous first half V Tipp, 4 point defeat to Cork and 9 point defeat to Limerick.

Let's be real Tipp were brutal this year, and only drawing against them was a poor result. While competitive in the other games, 4, 6 and 9 point defeats is still a blow.

Some of the league games were very poor performances.

Positives this year, second half V Tipp, a win V Limerick in the league and playing OK for 70-80% of the other Munster games.

Where we go from here I am not sure but I don't think this appointment is as critical as the balls of an appointment that was made after Liam Cahill.

We are in a bit of a transition and are probably 3+ years from seeing some of the minor All Ireland winners come through.

Personally I would love to see Pat Ryan here although I am not sure how realistic that is, or if the timing is right. I would like to see Joxer remain with u20s for another year or two, ideally two.

Outside of that, I'm honestly not sure.

Amazingly all any manager has to do is get us out of munster to be a success, have some momentum over the next 2-3 years and then hopefully we retain a lot of those minors and they begin to break into the senior ranks.

I know Peter is only gone as of today but is there something more to this Pat Ryan rumour? Has contact been made in some shape or form over the past couple of weeks? I thought it was a bit odd that Donal ORourke, who happens to be very tight with Ryan, seemingly made it known he was stepping away from the setup even though the managements’s term was up anyway. I know Duck to be an honourable guy so don’t think he’d want to double-cross Queally maybe he just wanted to distance himself from the situation if he knew something was happening in the background. I personally beleive if the co board haven’t been bending over backwards to keep Queally on for another year they have something else up their sleeve. The consensus was that things were progressing under Queally and there were no obvious replacements within.
But if you thought there is a chance you could get Ryan you’d move heaven and earth. This would be a massive coupe.

good riddance quelly don’t let the door hit ya on the way out

Brendan Cummins term with the Tipp 20s is up this year.

And plays a terrible brand of hurling, judging by Tipperary fans, they don’t want him near their senior job.
I’m all in favour for Pat Ryan and given Queally stated the lack of support from the county board, I wonder would they have only decided to part ways with him if they already have an alternative at hand. Although a passionate Waterford man, results despite improved performances have been poor and overall, Queally has been with a lot of teams and won 1 county title which was a robbery on the day but I wish him well as he did give it his all.

I have a left field call in James Woodlock as an alternative to Pat Ryan. Has a great record at underage with Tipperary and I could see Cahill staying on a few years yet. Again, I would prefer Pat Ryan but he would be an interesting appointment but his lack of experience managing at adult level goes against him.
I do think the appointment of Pat Ryan would perhaps be enough to convince Barron, Bennett et al to continue for another year or 2 which would be great given the minors stepping on to the panel, their experience would help no end and the fact they are still some of our best players.

To be honest if you we to opt for Stephen you might as well have left Queally there for another year.

I think that is a like for like appointment in terms of experience.

To me it only makes sense to get rid of Peter if you can take it up a notch.

I understand your point but Davy’s first tenure and Cahills time had both reach All-Ireland finals, 2 of our only 3 All-Ireland finals in 60 years so I would say both appointments were successful (Not Davy’s 2nd term!).

Seán Power was probably overlooked unfairly, in particular in relation to Fanning getting the job but I’m almost certain that Seán has taken a step back from any form of management so he’s probably not an option. I think Joxer (& Tommy Ryan etc) should do 2 more years with the 2025 minors in the hope of winning an under 20 All-Ireland, similar to Power in 2013 & 2016. Even if he doesn’t win the under 20, given his record at club level as well, I think Joxer should get his chance down the line when his group are at senior level but I don’t think the time is right now. I’d love Darragh O’Sullivan to stay with the minors for 2 years and then step up to under 20 after Joxer. I suspect that might have been the county boards plan which shows good foresight.

I would rather guide my dad into my mam than have eddie brennan in , the amount of times he stuck his oar in ,he can stay up there .

Derek could be an option

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This is the post.

Underage structure needs to remain as is, let's look at the bigger picture and not be short sighted.

In the county I am not seeing a lot that wouldn't be a similar appointment as Queally was, outside of the current underage setup that is.

Jason Ryan could be a good could, AI win with BG, managed intercounty previously. Committed to them this year though so unlikely.

Outside of that you would have to say with Derek McGrath or Pat Ryan.

I'm not for bringing managers back, I feel that can be short sighted.

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Oh sweet divine jasus not Mcgrath, lovely man but have we learned nothing from the repeat appointment of Davy Fitz. Apart from that, the style of hurling was awful

I thought Molumphy played some good attacking hurling with a bang average Kerry team. They fell short cause he hadn't the players to come in off the bench. He would be far better shout then bringing back McGrath. I wouldn't leave Cummins anywhere near the job. I was delighted Clare bet Tipp in the u20s Munster Final. I had never seen a Tipp team play so defensive as they did against us in Fraher Field. One man inside the Waterford half of the field. It was the same as Derek McGraths anti huling. Hopefully Pat Ryan will take the job. We could know a lot more in the next 48 hours

Brian downing is a name I hope is considered for the job. He is highly taught of and Has done very well with Kildare and before that won 2 camogie all irelands with Kilkenny. Is probably in the running for Kilkenny job