General Ongoing Doctor Discussion

I watched the first 2 episodes today - and I think it's really good.

True, and that is the advantage it had, people were hungry for something half decent for a change.

I think after Capaldi left the arse fell out of the programme.

But that is just me.

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I think it will be years before we see more.

Great news that Davis is gone.

A new creative voice is needed when the Doctor returns.

J Michael Straczynski now lives in the UK and has a work permit there and if the BBC really is putting it out to tender no better man to put a good arc together for the Doctor.

Mixed emotions on this news.

Concern and Sadness.

Very concerned for the future of the show. As a long term fan of Doctor Who, i do actually remember the late 80s, and the effective cancelation that occured. I really enjoyed the comeback in 2005, and was a fairly loyal whovian up to the end of capaldis run. I gave Jodie a chance, and she had some top notch episodes - but the rot definitely set in with the Timeless Child, and the entire Fugitive Doctor. I didnt like the gimmick of bringing back tennant for a few specials. And point of fact - i didnt like the specials, i felt the storylines were poor.

When Ncuti Gatwa came along, i detached almost entirely from the franchise. I felt the first episode (Space babies) was a farce; And as the season continued I felt nothing short of embarassment for it. Doctor Who went from a Sci Fi show that could tangle with the best of them in terms of dept and story telling - to something that resembled a christmas panto. The budgets were enormous, but the writing was shockingly poor. And often pandered to RTDs political views. Being someone who (like RTD) is quite liberal and open-minded; I did not need to encounter a planet of 'systemic racists' to know that racism is wrong.. that episode had great potential, but ended up totally wasted. I detached at that stage, and dipped back in occasionally. The ratio of Stinkers to Stompers was horrendous -

Im concerned that a decade might go by before doctor who comes back. Obviously Disney leaving, and the BBC being as skint as it is - maybe it becomes a cartoon animation, or CGI - its not something i would be into tbh. While i enjoy some of the re-created lost episodes from Hartnell and Troughton - doctor who is first and foremost a Live Action show. And i worry about the direction it will now take. If it reboots, im signing off. No interest in more franchise reboots - been there, done that, thrown out the t-shirts.

RTD - Good Riddance

It is nothing short of baffling that the man who created such masterpieces as the first 3 seasons of NuWho - has ultimately proved to be the shows undoing. Below is his instagram post in relation to the news. It is hard not to read this as passive aggressive nonsensse, from a man that drove doctor who off a cliff. He now walks away, and leaves someone else to dig it out, and salvage whatever is possible.

Its a disgrace. His claims are laughable, and contradict prior established facts RE the christmas special. Iv watched a few video reactions online, and there seems to be broad agreement that this post — makes no sense. Its an attempt to frame the current state of the franchise, as though this was the goal; His plan was to get the show back on hiatus, and now having achieved said goal - he has decided to leave. I have read Russian Propaganda releases that made more sense than this.

Its clear that he was just scrambling to keep people interested for the end of his (second) run. Bringing in Billie Piper at the end was ludicrous, and obviously meant to create a special involving Doctor Rose, and Doctor Tennant - again, just fan bait, to try and keep things alive. If he had any serious intention toward handing the job over to a new team - Russel should have behaved rationally. If one is moving out of an apartment they have rented for many years - its usually polite to cleanup after ones self -

Anyway im interested to hear what people think - Long live Doctor who

im watching since the very late 80s as a kid - i barely understood the mythology, but when some channels started showing pertwee and tom bakers eps in the 90s, i really got into it. (although i was initially baffled about regenerations, and my 'first' doctor was actually McCoy back toward the end of the original run)

My only wish is that, eventually, it continue under new management. I am disgusted by RTDs behavior. Shocking stuff. Also i will state for the record, i dont blame disney for this. The two Ncuti seasons were VERY weak, and arguably contained the worst episodes of nuWho over all. RTD should have aimed to knock it outta-the-park for those two season, to keep disney on board, and keep the show rolling on.

I dont know if anyone agrees, but the Ncuti run, for me, was the worst. There are no real memorable episodes from that run. And the writing was appalling. The creative choices were also baffling. I had wanted to Rani to return for years, but the method used was laughable. And these BIGENERATIONS were bonkers. And what was RTD smoking when he decided to bring Suteck back? If the goal was to broaden the shows appeal, and bring in a new audience - honestly - the decisions made no sense.

Honestly my dear Valeyard, you can save us here. retcon the show back to the end of Jodies run (or better still, Peter Capaldi) and just pick it up there. Have the last few seasons as a Valeyard induced nightmare -

I read the spoiler, and yea - that could have worked. And also, it could have been that the Metacrisis Doctor, sidewinded into being the Valeyard in some way.

What this story would have required was a competent writer.

The RTD of the 2020s (at least when it comes to doctor who) was not credible. He would have mucked that up something fierce.

Speaking of writers and producers BTW

Certainly JMS has the pedigree and skill - really, if he is truly interested, which he seems to be. My only question would be whether he would be left alone to do it.

My concern is that they reboot doctor who altogether. I will be done with it, if that happens

As to how to get out of this - honestly, i hardly care. Just get it done. Do a Colin Baker-McCoy Regeneration for all i care.

• have the show start with the tardis in trouble
• Tardis 'crashes'
• Camera interior - person in blond wig, face away from camera
• REGENERATION!!!
• Ladies and Gentlemen - meet, the new doctor
• Done

We will all know why this has happened, and wont hold it against anyone (except RTD)

Probably best to do a 2005 again though and just have the doctor turn up as someone new - and at some stage later we can revist the hows, and the whys

RTD gambled with our franchise with the Rose Doctor Regeneration stunt. It was obviously meant to end up as a special with her and Tennant. Honestly i am sick of this blatant Fan service - The gamble back fired. and the franchise hit an iceberg

The new showrunner has 3 options

• Write a way out of this involving Billie Piper for a one off special
• Ignore it and deal with it later
• Reboot

The first two options, i would applaud. The last, and im out