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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,390 ✭✭✭sparky42


    Not much of anything new, but more international press on our lack of anything really:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2026/06/04/world/europe/ireland-defense.html



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,107 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    No, thats not what this is.

    The NYTimes has been invited onto a NS OPV for the express purpose of describing in detail the security situation and challenges the DF must face.

    This is obviously a government propaganda exercise of sorts, to coincide with the publication of the Defence Bill which will ultimately end the Triple Lock.

    It is an international piece aimed at shutting up the opposition parties here in Ireland for their stances on neutrality and the Triple Lock in the face of the facts.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,390 ✭✭✭sparky42


    because the Irish Left/Tankie/Shinners are well known for taking foreign press stories into account on anything…

    I would say it’s far more aimed at the multinationals who might be asking difficult questions about infrastructure risks, with the aim of trying to show us “doing something”



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,286 ✭✭✭Sudden Valley


    Do you think the multinational companies will think ireland is too much of a risk to work with because of this article?

    Eventually the Ukraine Russian war must end but I dont think Russia wants or would be even able to maintain a conflict with the rest of Europe. They are not powerful to try to emulate the Soviet Union.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,390 ✭✭✭sparky42


    I’d say it’s a possible risk, we’re by far the most exposed with a significant amount of cables crossing our EEZ, it only take one knocked out to have multiple knocks by economically and diplomatically.

    As to the future, most of the language from Russia is still belligerent towards all of Europe, even with the losses they’ve taken. What Putin or whoever replaces him decides, who knows. 10-15 years ago would anyone have bet we would have had the full scale Russian invasion?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,286 ✭✭✭Sudden Valley


    I guess after Georgia it wouldn't have seemed that unlikely. Russia have had their regime, economy and military have been severely damaged. If they are our bogeyman, they are very weak.

    Post edited by Sudden Valley on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,107 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Probably also, yes.

    But also probably for ordinary people. The Soc Dems won a by-election seat, but a government party also won one, and Sinn Féin are flailing on many fronts, trying to be all things to all people.

    Its fortuitous timing for a crack at some hearts and minds.

    I've no doubt this whole article will be reprinted in an Irish title this weekend.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,390 ✭✭✭sparky42


    Seems it didn't, or at least I did see any of the usual suspects posting it anyway?

    In other news, you sort of have to admire the balls of the Government trying to talk about defence to the rest of the EU with a straight face. Or perhaps admire the restraint of everyone else in the room when we open our mouths on the issue…

    https://www.thejournal.ie/eu-defence-priorities-thomas-byrne-irish-eu-presidency-7062643-Jun2026



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 41,981 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Yeah, we should have a love-in with Putin because Russians are white and their values are just great.

    I'm partial to your abracadabra
    I'm raptured by the joy of it all



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 41,981 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Assuming your enemies are rational is dangerous.

    I'm partial to your abracadabra
    I'm raptured by the joy of it all



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,286 ✭✭✭Sudden Valley


    Its better than building a strategy around irrational fears.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,390 ✭✭✭sparky42


    building up basic defence capabilities which in the end is what LoA3 is (with LoA2 being “dip the toes in”), isn’t basing anything on “irrational fears”, it’s literally just building the states capacity to handle normal defence taskings/roles.

    In other news, the Examiner is reporting the changes to the Triple Lock go before Cabinet tomorrow.

    https://archive.ph/xYxyP



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,390 ✭✭✭sparky42


    I hope this doesn't age as badly as his comments about everything was fine with the state of the NS and that there was no way drug shipments would take advantage of our weaknesses…

    https://www.thejournal.ie/eu-presidency-security-incident-ireland-taoiseach-7064202-Jun2026/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,164 ✭✭✭CrabRevolution


    That's very optimistic. The opposition will just double down on their existing arguments against Defence spending.

    The tankies will say it's part of a NATO conspiracy to coerce Ireland into abandoning neutrality.

    The likes of the Soc Dems will say "Yes the world is dangerous but the solution is neutrality, diplomacy and multilateralism, not an arms race".



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,390 ✭✭✭sparky42


    in other words the entire comments section of the NYT article.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,390 ✭✭✭sparky42


    In a bit of random news story time, an article on how the French are having to slow recruitment as they are already ahead of target, maybe we can ask the French to have a look at our systems for recruitment and retention?

    https://www.defensenews.com/global/europe/2026/06/08/french-army-has-recruitment-surplus-but-lacks-equipment-deputy-chief-says/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,107 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Who says its just the French?!

    With all the live firing going on with the 2-Stars, we're running low on ammo ourselves!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,107 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Although in all seriousness, when an armed force, especially one as large as that of France, is able to exceed its recruitment targets, without any element of mandatory service, its usually a very bad sign economically for that country....



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,390 ✭✭✭sparky42


    I mean given how the Navy have stepped up their training days I'm not surprised, but again this does seem like a predictable problem that should have been planned for.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,937 ✭✭✭roadmaster


    So accorrding to many media reports today Ken o Flynn was not informed by a Defence Forces member on questions hd asked about the defence forces on PQs he submitted both rather AI it seams.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,390 ✭✭✭sparky42


    not an article, but I see John Healy has resigned in the U.K. over the level of funding Starmer and the Treasury were willing to give the DIP.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 401 ✭✭mupper2




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,390 ✭✭✭sparky42


    Its interesting timing, blows up Starmer nicely before the Byelection, most likely spikes the DIP until a leadership competition, and leaves the UK drifting. Though given how little "new money" was actually on the table I don't think he actually had much choice if he believed in the position of increasing the budget.

    Wonder who gets the job next? And whether our Part Time Minister (or any that have come before her) even understand why a Defence Minister would resign over lack of funding?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,343 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    The UK's bridging funding for GCAP development expires at the end of June.
    The constant budget worries have the Japanese wound up to the hilt.

    Healy's resignation, in the face of Starmer & Reeves talking a big game but refusing to actually fund it.
    Is IMHO the right thing to do.

    The UK needs to look at what the French military planning laws and their procurement structures are achieving for France, with less spend and contrast it to their own basket case of failures.

    France operates a CASD, but also has independent tactical nuclear strike capability via AdA & ASMP.
    The UK proposed buying 12 F35A and joining US nuke sharing to fulfil that role.
    That option is likely to be cancelled.
    It's navy isn't collapsing, it's armoured vehicles are at the very least, functional and at best, world class.
    France's domestic industry can deliver equipment to cover the entire gamut of its requirements from pistol ammo to SLBMs and every niche betwixt them, and does it all for a lower spend than the UK.

    There are drastic issues with UK military budget, procurement and implementation.
    Politically, the argument has to be made for perhaps as Malcolm Rifkind has proposed, a hypotecated Tax increase of 1% that is specifically ring fenced for defence.
    It's that, or abandon Reeves' fiscal rules and borrow more.


    Claiming that UK & Europe are under severest threat since Cold War and not seeking to build public support for spending increase, whilst ensuring it isn't done so at expense of services?
    Is actively ignoring the threat.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,343 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    His understudy, the armed forces minister Al Carns has also tendered his resignation.
    It's going to be a long lonely few weeks for Starmer until the Makerfield ByElection and the subsequent Leadership heaves by Burnham and Streeting.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,434 ✭✭✭jonnybigwallet


    Hell of a bun fight in the UK over cheesparing on defence. Another senior man has resigned. Maybe our people should be looking at the "winds of change" and step up to the plate with an appropriate level of defence.…given the strategic importance of Ireland in terms of Atlantic Cables etc....and not be leaning on UK etc.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 401 ✭✭mupper2




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,390 ✭✭✭sparky42


    The PPS of Defence has gone as well, Dan Jarvis a former member of the Parachute Regiment has been made Secretary of Defence. It will be very interesting to see how he plays things, given Starmer's letter to Healey, he's not willing to override Treasury, did he get Jarvis to commit to accepting the announced figure?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,343 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    I just spotted the PPS resignation there, link below.


    Were there any credible alternative to Starmer already within the Parliamentary party?
    I think he and Reeves would already be gone TBH.
    Streeting just doesn't strike me as capable and for all the love the left of the party have for Burnham ?
    I think they will be surprised at just how ruthless he will be.
    The growth problem that is dragging the UK economy down is easily solved.
    But?
    The realisation that rejoin means joining as a new TFEU applicant, Copenhagen criteria and no carve outs just isn't saleable to the UK public.
    Rejoin, and the economic growth that comes with it?
    Solves the defence funding gap.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,390 ✭✭✭sparky42


    Honestly I don't think either the UK or EU would want to go there. The UK's body politic is still absolutely broken 10 years on, a new application would set the whole thing on fire. As for the EU, they get a nation whose still has at the very least a sizeable voting block that have self radicalised over anything to do with the EU. It would be a never ending Psychodrama.

    I mean I don't disagree with you about the economic disruption Brexit has caused and the ramifications and costs that still play out, I just don't see how the UK could even talk about Rejoining without breaking itself further.



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