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US/Israel conduct airstrikes on Iran again

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,799 ✭✭✭bored65


    I ain’t the one who is

    1. Celebrating the crushing of protests against a cruel regime and ongoing public executions of young protesters
    2. Trying to deflect with whataboutery about children in Gaza or the the school bombing atrocity

    Which is very warped and shows how morally and ethically bankrupt the far left has become

    You are the one who is literally spending their morning defending an undemocratic and unelected regime that murders its own in their thousands while moaning about “westerners”



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,903 ✭✭✭amandstu


    Maybe true ,but that is not what I meant by Homeland.Homeland.I meant a place where the diaspora of those who considered themselves culturally Jewish could place a physical geographic entity rather than a religious centre.

    In their particular context (and ours) somewhere where they could feel and be safe.

    My fear is that , through mistakes on all sides this opportunity will be lost in the medium or even short term and that the die has more or less been cast

    Maybe the demise of the petrol economy will come to their aid but I doubt America will be of any help to them now..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,472 ✭✭✭dmcdona


    Well there you go. What utter nonsense - clearly you're more concerned of having some kind of "gotcha" than a discussion.

    Implying they deserve to be hanged

    LOL!

    Well done you for totally and utterly missing the point.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,799 ✭✭✭bored65


    What point were you trying to make besides celebrating the “western” cavalry not arriving on time?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,472 ✭✭✭dmcdona


    I said the US cavalry - not "western" cavalry. And there was no "celebration".

    You were having a moan about the (disputed) 33,000 protesters then pivoted to Gaza. You conveniently forget that the US and Israel stated their illegal war on the premises that they wanted regime change and to protect protesters being murdered.

    Neither of which has happened.

    So, direct your anger to the US/Israel.

    Your credibility was questionable at best but to accuse me of lying just copperfastens that it's actually zero.


    Are their deaths ok in your opinion because of the dumpster fire over on Gaza 1000s km away from Iran? 

    thats what your post amounts to “ah sure sure never mind these protestors are executed, why don’t ya think of the children over there”



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,799 ✭✭✭bored65


    I didn’t mention Gaza at any stage the whataboutery that’s off topic to the thread was started by yourself and another poster trying to deflect from reports Iranian regime executing more protestors this week and boasting about it

    It’s notable you had nothing to say on the actual thread topic and recent events in Iran



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,898 ✭✭✭combat14


    the iranians have announced they have now stopped their attacks on israel

    israel yet to respond



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,611 ✭✭✭JohnDoe2025


    Yesterday, after their five missiles, they announced they would attack for the full week. They appear to have backed down considerably.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,979 ✭✭✭For Petes Sake


    Because Iran knows it has the US by the balls at the moment.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 925 ✭✭✭engineerws


    Ridiculous🤣🤣 Vatican City is the catholic homeland 😅 Straws and grasping. Ludicrous.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,244 ✭✭✭Sudden Valley


    Israel doesn't want peace and Trump appears to have little leverage in achieving a peace deal that will look as good as Obamas deal. Hard to know when this mess will end.

    Those predicting it would end in a few weeks are looking pretty naive now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,611 ✭✭✭JohnDoe2025


    Then it would be bombing Israel as much as it liked. No, they may have thought that yesterday, hence the bravado of a week of bombing, but they have backed down very quickly.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,979 ✭✭✭For Petes Sake


    Israel bombed Beirut, so Iran struck Israel in response to warn them off.

    What's Trump doing? Telling Israel to back off.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,611 ✭✭✭JohnDoe2025


    You've got the sequence of events wrong.

    Israel bombed Beiruit, Iran attempted to strike Israel, its missiles got shot down and did no damage, Trump told Israel to back off, Israel defied Trump and bombed Iran causing damage, then Iran called off their week-long bombing campaign.

    Those are the facts, and they clearly show Iran backing down.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,244 ✭✭✭Sudden Valley


    So has Israel stopped bombing Beirut like Iran wanted? Really these engagements are achieving next to nothing strategically.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,621 ✭✭✭brickster69


    All that was achieved is every ship exporting to Israel and every ship leaving by sea from Israel has to go around Africa instead of passing through a short cut belonging to it's neighbour. A great result for them.

    The old world is dying, and the new world struggles to be born: now is the time of monsters. — Antonio Gramsci



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,922 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    Achieving nothing strategically? Absolutely. In fact it has been a strategic disaster for USA. The rest of NATO will never trust them again. Remember when Trump got annoyed that UK, France etc did not join him in Netanyahu's annexation/crusade (Israel will keep huge chunks of Lebanon and most of Gaza) against Iran. Trump was furious and called them names etc. Now the rest of NATO know how futile this war is and how it has impacted their economies. The Iranian regime is still in place and holding the world to ransom. The USA has lost the NATO counties as trusted partners (Greenland started the rot). The USA look like it's run by children and Israel looks increasingly bloodthirsty and willing to steal other countries land. A strategic disaster of epic proportions.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth house?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,440 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    The vatican isn't a "homeland". Neither is Mecca.

    Mecca is a site of devotion. There's no desire for the vast majority of muslims to move there. they don't claim to be from there, or have ancestors from there. There's other holy sites, including Medina and Jerusalem. Are they also homelands? or lesser homelands?

    The vatican is where the catholic church has its headquarters and its leadership live. Catholics don't want to move there, don't claim to be descended from there. It's a holy site, but there's holier sites. Can anyone list off the miracles that occurred at the vatican? It's really just where the church set up shop during the Roman empire. Lourdes, Knock, Jerusalem etc are all holier sites.

    Also, there's loads of sites that are headquarters for catholics scattered across eastern europe and north africa. Are they homelands?

    Do Irish roman catholics have two homelands? The vatican and Ireland?

    A homeland is where you or your parents are from. It's not because you had some ancestors there 2000 years ago.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 12,436 ✭✭✭✭J Mysterio




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,958 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    I see this 33,000 nonsense is still being spouted by liars.

    Why is it that Israel supporters always have to resort to lies.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,799 ✭✭✭bored65




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,922 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    Netanyahu told Trump that Iran's regime would fall if they attacked when they did but I would imagine Netanyahu did not want Iran's regime to fall in January. If it had, Israel would have lost their main reason and validation for the attack in March. And Netanyahu has been pleading with the US to attack Iran for many years. Secretly, annexing large parts of Lebanon was part of his plan. Trump is now angry with Netanyahu for creating this political, economical and strategical disaster. Trump doesn't seem to be able to control Netanyahu who is more concerned about elections and corruption and of course stealing land.

    Post edited by Cluedo Monopoly on

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth house?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,922 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    People forget too that there will be a lag effect on the economic impact of this stupid war initiated by a stupid president and a genocidal war criminal. Inflation is rising due to oil prices and now we have seen the EU signalling interest rate rises. It will all impact growth.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth house?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,958 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    Indeed. I fear that the worst of this idiocy hasn't hit yet.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,472 ✭✭✭dmcdona


    It's utterly remarkable.

    I see the post that accused me of "celebrating" the murders of the "33,000" Iranian protesters (or was it 36,000?) is now posting that they denied ever mentioning Gaza. Yet, I'm my response, quoting them directly, they clearly mentioned Gaza.

    I've no issue debating, discussing, even arguing but when lies are told, even in the face of corroborated evidence, it's like talking to a brick wall.

    So the question is, why all the lies? All I can think of is that it's is pure desperation in trying to push a narrative that has no basis in fact because they know the narrative is a tissue of lies. The virtual clutching at straws to try and validate an already-lost argument is as obvious as the nose on your face. It's embarrassing to watch the self-destruction.

    You know the argument is utterly lost when the personal insults and demonstrably false accusations start flying.

    That 33,000 (36,000, 25,000, 7,000 whatever) was debated at length here some time back and debunked with clear corroborated evidence. The fact it is still being touted as fact is indicative of zero credible arguments left - but we'll chuck in that debunked 33,000 figure for "the optics".

    The really weird thing is, everyone agrees that the murders of those protesters was, is and remains abhorrent. If it was one protester murdered, I would absolutely condemn it. If it was 7,000, I would condemn it just the same.

    Do people think that I should condemn it more because "the numbers were significantly higher"? Do people think Iran is a more despotic regime because "it wasn't 7000, it was 33,000". It's a stupid argument. One protester killed is one too many.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,472 ✭✭✭dmcdona


    I literally quoted you mentioning Gaza:

    because of the dumpster fire over on Gaza

    And I literally quoted "the US" in my post and the schoolgirls killed in the missile strike.

    If you want to double-down on lies that's your choice. But your posting credibility will remain where it firmly belongs.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,958 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    They inflate it to try to make it sound worse, because somehow the 7000+ dead documented by HRANA (the figure arrived at by actual accounting and not idle immediate speculation) isn't good enough for them. So they continue to use the falsehood, failing to understand that by doing so it merely exposes them as liars. It's a continuous and remarkable self own and all because they think there's something to be "won" here.

    What's amazing is that there's tons of things that can be legitimately thrown at the Iranian regime as valid criticisms (7000+ dead is actually one of them!*), but Israel supporters always have to fall back on lies as if they think it reinforces their point, when all it does it weaken it and reveals them to be the frauds that they are.

    *An appalling figure by anybody's standards.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,799 ✭✭✭bored65


    That’s clearly a reply trying to hint to the poster that he was going off topic with whataboutery

    But good job burying and diverting from the news that Iran is publicly executing more protesters

    Bravo slow clap



  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 4,692 Mod ✭✭✭✭Ozymandius2011


    The David vs Goliath image of Israel in 1948 does not match up with the numbers of soldiers in the field. Many Arab countries were barely involved or only on paper. The idea that it was miraculous is part of Zionist appeals to Christian Fundamentalists in the US. Its also a factor in modern military censorship in Israel, so they think all the Iranian missiles are being intercepted.

    The conflict has long ceased to be about Israels existence, and become about Israel's expansionism.

    Screenshot 2026-06-08 160643.png


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 289 ✭✭strathspey




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