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Immigration and Ireland - MEGATHREAD *Mod Note Added 02/09/25*

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  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 5,577 Mod ✭✭✭✭Rawr


    Alright folks. The amount of reports we get on this thread regrading personal sniping and alround uncivil behaviour is frankly incredible. I get it's a topic that brings up strong feelings on all ends of the political spectrum, but this place has to be a civil forum to hash out those ideas.

    So here's whats going to happen:

    • Any and all personal attacks in this thread will get that poster a pointed warning, and the post will be deleted.
    • Anyone who doesn't get the message after this and continues this behavour will get a Thread Ban.

    Play nice, or not at all.

    -Mod



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 698 ✭✭✭Marcos


    We mentioned this earlier, but the estate built to house IPAS applicants in Brittas without planning permission has been ordered to be demolished within 6 weeks by Judge Richard Humphries in the High Court.* Notwithstanding the fact that this development threatened drinking water supply for all of South Dublin, the judge had plenty to say about these chancers who argued in court that 29 block built houses were in effect the same as caravans granted permission in 1972, with the proviso that they be removed by 1973.

    ‘Nor is the situation made better by the almost unbelievable chutzpah of the
    developers who even now claim “innocent mistake”, even though they
    ignored or deflected warning letters and intensified construction of the
    unauthorised development in the teeth of interventions from the council
    and residents and during the course of proceedings before the Circuit
    Court,’ he said.

    ‘This is as far from innocence as you can get – this was an attempt to
    create a fait accompli with a view to turning around and defiantly
    asking the system, in effect, “What are you going to do about it?”

    Thankfully these will be removed, or else I'd like to see the directors involved get the Burke treatment for contempt of court.

    *Edit: The developers will have to submit a remediation and landscaping plan in court on Wednesday June 10th. This plan is required to be approved and finalised by June 17th. If the developers decline to do it themselves, South Dublin County Council can take charge of the property, restore it to an acceptable state, and then invoice the owners for the full cost of works.

    This prevents the property owners and developers from simply ignoring Justice Humphreys’ and Judge O’Connor’s orders, ensures that the work will be done on time, and that the costs will land squarely with the developers.

    Post edited by Marcos on

    When most of us say "social justice" we mean equality under the law opposition to prejudice, discrimination and equal opportunities for all. When Social Justice Activists say "social justice" they mean an emphasis on group identity over the rights of the individual, a rejection of social liberalism, and the assumption that unequal outcomes are always evidence of structural inequalities.

    Andrew Doyle, The New Puritans.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,541 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    I don't know where you get your info from .all very vague . I live in Dublin and myself and my friends will be out this evening and tonight in Dublin North inner City . Weather permitting we will walk everywhere and get public transport home .

    You take normal care that you do going out anywhere .

    I would be as concerned about Irish lads causing trouble in the city as anyone else , and I and all my family socialize and work in the city all the time .

    Stop with the hype

    You obviously ..have no clue about Dublin except from some grifting redtops posting tripe .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,541 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    Yes she was out of her depth , totally.

    But it is Big Jim in charge now for quite a while .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 248 ✭✭Resplendent Moose


    Exactly this.

    I was in Dublin city centre the other week, and was one of the hundreds of thousands who go there all the time and manage to not get murdered.

    There was a good buzz about it, I went in, did my business, went back home.

    I don't personally know precisely where the idea that it's some kind of lawless warzone is coming from, nor what motives some might have to portray it as one, but actual experiences say different.

    Of course any murder is a tragedy and should not be downplayed, but things are certainly being overplayed as well.

    A personal invitation to dance, as Nero plays for the last time
    Tonight you will mix with the prophets without honour...



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,541 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    Not down playing anything . Shocking and tragic what happened to that young man .

    Poster was posting second hand nonsense about my hometown .

    For sure people get robbed and stabbed , killed or beaten up in Dublin but not on the scale of other capital cities . AGS are more visible recently which is welcome in the inner city .

    Ireland ranks 2nd safest in the world after Iceland with Dublin ranking fairly high among capital cities among residents and visitors alike . It ranks as medium among European cities because of safety and risk at night , in common with a lot of European cities .

    Is Dublin safe to live in? - Dublin.ie https://share.google/E4NZxGdXKQ4Kaauqr

    Of course those statistics will never be posted on this thread by some . All negatives hyped .

    Global Peace Index Map » The Most & Least Peaceful Countries https://share.google/l3yYQt2NkgQkCzYwn

    I would say that in the 40 years I have lived here it is safer than it was back in the day , and prettier , although there are black spots to be avoided or greater care taken .

    Edited to add I live in North Dublin city a very middle working class area .

    A lot of people are shocked as a result however, that anyone is killed here , especially in circumstances like that .

    And it was reported that one of the guys that was involved and absconded to the UK had previous and was out on bail ?

    Our prison system is not coping at all and prison spaces should be used for people like this and another prison built as a matter of urgency .

    Post edited by Goldengirl on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,891 ✭✭✭enricoh


    Somalis are now the largest country numbers wise coming here seeking asylum. Based on how other countries in Europe have got on with them do u foresee any issues here?

    Can u explain why Sweden are now paying people to leave n never come back? It doesn't sound like a resounding success to me.

    Source: The New York Times https://share.google/rUrPO1G8th7Ki050O



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,579 ✭✭✭batman_oh


    And they are verified to have the lowest employment rates in general of all refugees across Europe in any country that will actually report such things, as well as being top or close to the top in involvement in many types of violent crime (multiple times over represented in these areas compared to all immigrants from European countries).

    If you suggest that these actual facts exist you are a nazi right wing bigot racist though. They will come here and enrich us with much needed diversity. Is it not about time that actual discussions were held based on the facts and outcomes that have been seen all over Europe, rather than pandering to the people that choose to ignore reality under the guise of social justice.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,832 ✭✭✭Patrick2010


    How on earth has Somalia become the number one country for seeking asylum in Ireland? Assume people traffickers have sold us as the best destination for benefits and a very low chance of being deported even if after a couple of years being put up free of charge you get a deportation notice.

    Then you can get a free NGO lawyer to argue your case during numerous appeal



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,863 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Assimilation, integration, immigration, multiculturalism between peoples from different ethnicities rarely ever works. Very small doses, grand. But when it’s pushed and promoted and encouraged and ramped up it only leads to trouble. We’re a tribal species at heart. We have always gravitated to our likeness!!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,406 ✭✭✭CollyFlower


    From Camden street to all along Rathmines road looks like one giant ipa's centre.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,085 ✭✭✭Paddy_Mag


    Its only going to get worse. Be interesting to see what happens in Spain. Unemployment rate touching 11% and about to grant amnesty to 500000 Africans so they can work but the 11% is double the EU average.

    Let's see if they stick around to work. Or look for a soft touch elsewhere IN EU



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,085 ✭✭✭Juran


    Once they get that Spanish passport, a % will head to the lands of milk and honey (ireland and UK). Once there, the wife and 7 kids will be flown in from Africa and Middle East to join them, then they'll get that big council house and benefits for life. Why pick oranges on a farm in Spain when you can recieve more money on benefits in Ireland and a free house ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,085 ✭✭✭Paddy_Mag




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,085 ✭✭✭Paddy_Mag


    The government of the past secured land to build a prison, Thornton Hall, but its now being used to build a massive IPAS centre.

    We wont build another prison anytime soon so court's will be a revolving door of suspended sentences and slaps on the wrist.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69 ✭✭Timesheet


    I am amused that the government has banned two Israeli ministers from coming here.

    They have no clue who is coming and going from the country at the best of times.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,085 ✭✭✭Paddy_Mag


    Banning two people who are not likely to ever come here to begin with, its abt where the govt is at.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 127 ✭✭dp22250


    Sweden 2.0, we must prepare for a country of 10 million people and the problems it brings. The government have been telling us about the increase in population via foreigners.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,168 ✭✭✭✭lawred2




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 248 ✭✭Resplendent Moose


    France has also banned Ben-Gvir, and Spain, France and Italy have called on the EU to impose sanctions on him, but I suppose that doesn't suit the narrative.

    A personal invitation to dance, as Nero plays for the last time
    Tonight you will mix with the prophets without honour...



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,085 ✭✭✭Paddy_Mag


    Thats a bit like me vowing to never go to the moon.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,753 ✭✭✭bored65


    France also makes migrants unwelcome and either integrate or F off as they know first hand having been subjected to multiple terrorism attacks what mass immigration and ghettoisation ends up in

    But I suppose that doesn’t suit the far left narrative



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,747 ✭✭✭creedp


    More virtue signalling! Probably only a handful of people our great leaders would get a pat on the head for banning entry to this country



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,826 ✭✭✭DebDynamite


    In the past year I have been to the three largest Spanish cities, and their immigration rate looks nothing like Dublin. Their people still all mainly look and sound Spanish as you walk the streets or take public transport, apart from the obvious tourists. It’s Spanish people serving you in shops, bars and restaurants. Barely a Roma or the Somalian woman in headscarves to be seen.

    Yes, the numbers sound high, but just from appearances alone, Spain can probably absorb that number of people with their large population. It’s easy for people to hear the news and think it’s going on everywhere, but Ireland’s immigration rate is running at juggernaut speed, and we don’t have the large population to absorb it. It’s not the EU normal what’s happening here.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,017 ✭✭✭rgossip30


    Rubbish the graph just states the number in IPAS accommodation for each year not ciumulative numbers that comes each year . They do move from IPAS into other accommodation once they get status .



  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 4,514 Mod ✭✭✭✭Ozymandius2011


    I would point out though that probably most of their non EU migrants are from.Latin America or Romania. Romanians migrating to the West have in large numbers gone to Spain or Italy due to similarities with their own language.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,334 ✭✭✭Mike Murdock


    Dublin has always been dodgy in the wee small hours, even when I was going out regularly in the city 20-25 years ago.

    This is not an immigration problem but a policing problem (i.e., lack of visible police presence across the city).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,017 ✭✭✭rgossip30


    Big Jim or more like big bluff is no better !!

    Dublin III Transfer Decisions effected 2024 8 ,2025 2 , 2026 0 .

    https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/debates/question/2026-02-11/231/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,826 ✭✭✭DebDynamite


    Oh yeah, they have had a lot of immigration from South America. It’s not the half a million immigrants from Africa / the Middle East like some people seem to think. Their immigration has been culturally more compatible with their existing society, and will make for much better integration and cohesion.



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  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 4,514 Mod ✭✭✭✭Ozymandius2011


    I recall when the Zapatero government introduced an amnesty before the 2004 EU Enlargement and about 600,000 largely Romanians and Bulgarians took it up.



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