Israel/Palestine Thread

@random stranger, Neither yourself nor Miniegg wrote “overwhelmingly” in your posts regarding IAGS. Maybe the accusation by @sheepysheep is a red herring, or he’s just confused. Miniegg did quote a paragraph from International Association of Genocide Scholars (IAGS) website stating the vote is standard for their organisation.

“Members are encouraged, but not forced, to vote. The figure of membership who voted (28%) is within the usual range of votes received for a resolution, which falls between 25-34%. To pass, a resolution must receive at least two-thirds majority of those voting in favour, and this was well exceeded, with 86% voting in favour of the resolution. “

Starry:
FACT #1: It’s well publicised that IAGS formally passed a 3-page Resolution on the Situation in Gaza, concluding that Israel’s policies and actions meet the legal definition of genocide in Article 2 of the 1948 UN Genocide Convention. E.G., IAGS

“Calls upon the government of Israel to immediately cease all acts that constitute genocide, war crimes and crimes against humanity against Palestinians in Gaza, including deliberate attacks against and killing of civilians including children; starvation; deprivation of humanitarian aid, water, fuel, and other items essential to the survival of the population; sexual and reproductive violence; and forced displacement of the population;”

FACT #2: IAGS’ record (see Miniegg's above quote) shows 28% of their 500 members (at that time), took part in a secret ballot without fear of a backlash (professional blacklisting, ostracisation...). 86% of those who voted supported the resolution. WOW!! 140 members - over one quarter of IAGS membership.

Below is the IAGS 3-page Resolution:
Current as of 28 July 2025 / Resolution passed 31 August 2025
https://genocidescholars.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/08/IAGS-Resolution-on-Gaza-FINAL.pdf

An Extract:
“Acknowledging that putative [it’s contended] security measures against members of a group are often pretext for mass killing and genocide as it has become in this case;”

Therefore, the International Association of Genocide Scholars:

Declares that Israel’s policies and actions in Gaza meet the legal definition of genocide in Article II of the United Nations Convention for the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide (1948);

Declares that Israel’s policies and actions in Gaza constitute war crimes and crimes against
humanity as defined in international humanitarian law and the Rome Statute of the International
Criminal Court

Calls upon the government of Israel to immediately cease all acts that constitute genocide, war crimes and crimes against humanity against Palestinians in Gaza, including deliberate attacks against and killing of civilians including children; starvation; deprivation of humanitarian aid, water, fuel, and other items essential to the survival of the population; sexual and reproductive violence; and forced displacement of the population

Got to agree - they were thankful for the 15 minutes of fame and the media attention - especially the media attention.

Massive tactical error on the part of the settler colonial regime they call Israel - yes ?

Humanitarian aid must be blocked at all costs - regardless of the public relations consequences.

The engineered famine takes precedence.

It will be a difficult one to defend at the International Court of Justice.

Even if the tiny amount of aid on the flotilla was allowed into Gaza it would be like a drop in the ocean.

What the numerous flotillas have done - and very effectively too - is to focus world attention on the deeply ingrained sickness inherent in Israeli society - a society that brings picnics and deck-chairs to the hills above Gaza to better enjoy the debauchery and slaughter unfolding below.

The cat is well and truly out of the bag now - on the one hand we have Ben-Gvir behaving like a muck-savage before the world's media while at the same time we have Netanyahu desperately trying to convince the same media that savagery and debauchery is not what Israel is about.

Bottom line - the flotilla is not primarily about humanitarian aid - it's more about providing the Tel-Aviv regime with enough rope to help them show their true face to the civilised world.

And it's working admirably - yes ?

It's the same stupid argument peddled across the threads here

Might be worth having a think yourself about why you are defending a nation that shoots boys in the testicles for target practice.

https://www.channel4.com/news/teenagers-being-shot-by-israeli-soldiers-british-surgeon-in-gaza

There is no easy way to sugarcoat the reality - Israel is a terminally sick society.

Ethically and morally bankrupt.

In April and May 1945, as Allied forces liberated Nazi concentration camps, they forced local German civilians and captured soldiers to tour the sites and view mass graves.

This deliberate strategy was designed to break through years of propaganda, destroy denial, and force the populace to confront the horrific crimes committed in their name.

Not much use trying a trick like that with Israeli civilians - a good share of them of them would actually enjoy it !

Yes ?

Why would a boat legally travelling to a country that is in a ceasefire, with a cargo of food, cause headlines?