Israel/Palestine Thread

You don’t condone a genocide and the slaughter of 50k+ women and children, but you’re outraged on behalf of women in Denmark.

I wonder why one and not the other?

For me, I focus on my own little part of the world, my family, my circle of friends

I’m sure you’ve a mountain of Danish friends and family.

If there was a genocide against Danish women, would you not condemn it either seeing as you it’s such an important cause for you.

Where did I say i was outraged about Denmark

But I do also believe that because I own a phone/laptop that seems probably to contain Israeli tech, that does not mean I also condone Genocide (and therefore risk being called a hypocrite).

Yet i was accused of supporting Israel and their actions because I don't think the FAI should boycott the two games on the other thread.

What defines being pro Israel? I would say buying goods or availing of services with heavy links to Israel is far more damaging then two football matches ever will be. The football matches will come and go like many have over the last 2-3 years, but if the money continues to flow over a prolonged period of time as a result of the international trade??

Given the Mary Manning Dunnes example was put forward, the severe economic sanctions were a major part of apartheid in SA was ended. Two football matches, neither of which are to be held in Israel, will make a blind bit of difference because as far as i can see, if FAI do boycott the games, its going to be action in isolation. And the only ones who will face consequences are the FAI

Starry: UN special rapporteur Francesca Albanese aims to expose the role of global banks in underwriting Israeli treasury bonds (investments) that fund their military operations in Palestine. Her July 2025 report is designed to deter long term IDF military actions by highlighting the very financial foundations required to sustain this genocidal state’s war effort. Francesca is sounding quite Churchillian !!

UN Human Rights Council's summary of Francesca’s report is below:

Arms influence

A snippet of Paragraph 74. ⬇️

"Some of the world’s largest banks, including BNP Paribas[251] and Barclays,[252] stepped in to boost market confidence by underwriting these international and domestic treasury bonds, allowing Israel to contain the interest rate premium, despite a credit downgrade.[253] Asset management firms – including Blackrock ($68 million), Vanguard ($546 million) and Allianz’s asset management subsidiary PIMCO ($960 million)[254] – were among at least 400 investors from 36 countries who purchased them.[255] Meanwhile, the Development Corporation for Israel (DCI) (i.e., Israel Bonds)[256] provides a bond solicitation service for the Israeli government for overseas private individuals and other investors.[257]"

"Report of the Special Rapporteur on the situation of human rights in the Palestinian territories occupied since 1967*, **
FROM ECONOMY OF OCCUPATION TO ECONOMY OF GENOCIDE
Summary
Human Rights Council / Fifty-ninth session
16 June–11 July 2025
https://www.un.org/unispal/document/a-hrc-59-23-from-economy-of-occupation-to-economy-of-genocide-report-special-rapporteur-francesca-albanese-palestine-2025/

“This report investigates the corporate machinery sustaining Israel’s settler-colonial project of displacement and replacement of the Palestinians in the occupied territory. While political leaders and governments shirk their obligations, far too many corporate entities have profited from Israel’s economy of illegal occupation, apartheid and now, genocide. The complicity exposed by this report is just the tip of the iceberg; ....”

Paragraph 5. “International law accords States the primary role of ensuring that corporate entities do not violate international law and respect human rights, as part of their obligation to respect, protect and fulfil human rights.”

^ Francesca is correct, it needs world leaders to sanction and embargo... ^

So you brought up rapes in Denmark caused by Palestinian men (henious crimes) for what reason, if they don't outrage you? Was it to justify a genocide? To display that you just don't like Palestinians? Or was is it just classic whataboutery on your behalf?

read below post on FB that is far far more to the truth than this nonsense:

“I'm of Irish descent but even I'm embarrassed by this fanciful story. Let's be perfectly clear about this...the flotilla achieved absolutely nothing apart from giving the privileged narcissists a jolly little cruise around the Mediterranean. They never intended to get to Gaza otherwise they would have packed more supplies instead of the few non-perishables they took which could be reused. They went with the intention of getting intercepted, detained and with the aim of confrontation. They had only one objective and that was to paint the Israelis in as bad a light as possible hence the ridiculous tales of sexual assaults, beatings and starvation. These people are nothing but Palestine-obsessed antisemitic fruitcakes.”

who cares where a post/opinion is from.. forget where it’s from. Its content is what matters, and to me the content is bang on!!

The post, I feel, resonates with many folk and it’s hard to disagree with the content.

The kind of people on the cruise would certainly not inspire my confidence, based on what I saw and heard.

These people will gather again for the Ireland Israel game and for me it has never been clear who is funding them.

Is the Irish Taxpayer bankrolling them unknowingly.

A lot of light needs to be shone into very dark corners on this subject.

Yup, all singing from the same spoofing anti Israeli hymn sheet. Not a mark on any them, and not a single bit of actual verified evidence to corroborate their fanciful tales. Exactly what Mr. Facebook post said!!

How is sailing a boat to Gaza anti Israel? Explain it to me.