How many of us think that unification is no longer a priority and don't really want unification ?

There is nothing in that, other than wishful thinking from students.

I have never read anything as pathetic that is posing as a research piece. Wouldn't even merit a Junior Cert pass.

What are Sinn Fein doing to prevent the brain drain from Northern Ireland? Answer: Nothing, other than blame everyone else.

sinn fein plans for a united ireland education system - Google Search

As I said, I am not here trying to sell you something, defend any party's ideas for a UI etc.

My point is that SF like the other main party's have ideas and aspirations for a UI and have no 'reticence' publishing or discussing them. Find a member/email them if you wish to discuss.

It's not the 'present' government's priority, nobody denying that. . But it will be the responsibility of the government to present a Plan.

Nobody will be voting on a single party's plan.
IMO and you'll have to accept that, it is therefore pointless to invest the resources necessary and actually impossible for a single party to present a comprehensive plan.
Until then, personally I will read each parties ideas and thoughts on it. I can say, I like some but not all of each of their ideas and aspirations.

^^^ This is why I personally couldn't be arsed discussing these topics here.

Maybe if you learned how to respect other opinions and claims. I am not a member of SF, never have been and never will be a member of a political party.
If you wish to present a party's ideas for discussion, work away, if I have anything to say on it, I will contribute in good faith.
But don't expect any contribution if your comeback is the invective above.

If you are not a representative of a party, then you can tell us what YOU would do in the event of a United Ireland. Just start with Higher Education, or pick a topic of your own.

Colour me deeply sceptical here and I am going to call out the hypocrisy.



The DUP have never accepted their links to the formation of several paramilitary groups and still have active links to groups that are in the opinion of those tasked to assess 'still active'. Further they want these groups included as stakeholders in any future for NI.

While keeping Irish republicans and SF at arms length we all watched FG welcome and applaud the DUP at their annual convention and the abscence of anything approaching the vitriol thrown at those who identify as Irish and SF.

You call that what you want. I will see it differently.

Luckily for FG, the DUP revealed their true spots, as I said I think they are deeply chastened by it all. Lesson learned one would hope.

There is an awful lot of waffle about a united Ireland and the benefits it can bring, but nobody has ever been able to identify them, never mind quantify them. This is despite all the conventions and conferences all spouting motherhood and apple pie.

It is supremely ironic that you mention the GFA when it only came about because the British and Irish governments spoke to Sinn Fein at a time when it was deeply mired in sectarianism (some would say it still is) and bigotry while being controlled by a terrorist group (again the PSNI say it still is), yet you rail against some dialogue with the DUP!!

The other thing that is puzzling me is why it is ok for Sinn Fein to go into government in coalition with the DUP, but nobody else has the right to talk to them!!!

I am still not clear on what talking FG was doing to the DUP, and why it is bad for them to do that, but good for SF to talk to them every day, and good for the British government to talk to real actual terrorists.

Can't get my head around those paradoxes and hypocrisy.

I have been trying to understand your strange interpretations of events.

So, A DUP leader attending a FG conference once, as part of an outreach by FG to hear the views of unionism is a bad thing, is that right? But SF never reaching out across the divide to listen to unionists is a good thing?

On the DUP (John Hume) associating with paramilitary groups, are you talking about the LCC (SF) the representatives of the UVF and UDA (PIRA)? Again, I struggle to see your problem with this?

My problem is your post defining "cosying up" as one single outreach to attend one conference. Some weird silly definition there.

The PIRA and SF did a hell of a lot more "cosying up" to the British government around the GFA, but that isn't how you would describe their relationship.

Not particularly bothered how you see either of those.



My view - FG and FF do not hold the DUP to the same account or standards as SF.

They are nauseatingly hypocritical about it in fact.

FG should be chastened after what happened when they crossed the DUP. We'll see.
IMO FG FF should have insisted that the DUP sign up to the Multiparty agreement before allowing them around a table or at party congresses etc. I think anyone advocating for Irish people should have insisted on that.

SF had sign up to it as did others. The DUP having formed several paramilitary groups and who are associated with still active paramilitary groups, who almost 30 years after the GFA still haven't transitioned, are feted and applauded and never asked to account.