General Star Trek thread

And then today, where anyone with a decent laptop can do basic CGI for free, how many trek shows are in production? None.

At times it feels like progress is going backwards.

As well as getting ready to start Voyager with pre production etc.

No it was amazing what they managed.

Doing one of my DS9 rewatches. Currently on season four.

Thoughts;

I generally loathe Ferengi episodes, Little Green Men is my favourite of them all.

Way of the Warrior is very good but maybe not as great as 16 year old me thought.

Hard Time goes into my pantheon of "yeah that's great but why would you write an episode about a character undergoing decades-long trauma within one episode and then by necessity have him go back to normal next week? It totally **** the whole concept" (Inner Light, I'm looking at you)

The Visitor is a far better, more heartbreaking and affecting episode than say, Far Beyond the Stars which was totally overacted

(Edit: it may not be obvious from the above, but DS9 ties with the original series as my favourite Trek show and quite possibly my favourite series of all time. Just in case that wasn't clear!

Some early DS9 season five thoughts;

In Apocalypse Rising, Odo makes the weirdest-looking Klingon ever. I mean he just looks wrong. Colm Meaney doesn't look too suitable either actually. You must need to have the right shaped head for all that loaf.

In The Ship, the writers continue their policy of having Worf be a right dick to his colleagues, like a proper arsehole, on occasion. I always liked this. You wouldn't always get such nuance nowadays (you mean someone can be a good person but also sometimes act like a wanker to the people around him? This confuses and enrages me!)

In Looking for Par'mach in all the Wrong Places, as weird as the concept was that Chief O'Brien and Kira suddenly have the hots for one another, their chemistry was still better than any that Kira and Odo might have had.

And is allowed to keep his natural Irish accent. I was talking to someone over the weekend, about Downton Abbey, and they mentioned Maria Doyle-Kennedy. I've met her in person and she an ordinary, normal Dublin accent, but in both Downton Abbey and in Dexter she had this horrible plastic paddy kind of accent, straight out of Darby O'Gill and the little people.

Doing one of my DS9 rewatches. Currently on season four.

Thoughts;

I generally loathe Ferengi episodes, Little Green Men is my favourite of them all.

Way of the Warrior is very good but maybe not as great as 16 year old me thought.

Hard Time goes into my pantheon of "yeah that's great but why would you write an episode about a character undergoing decades-long trauma within one episode and then by necessity have him go back to normal next week? It totally **** the whole concept" (Inner Light, I'm looking at you)

Funnily enough on my first watches of DS9, I could not stand Quark and to this day I generally hate all Ferenghi episodes, but in recent years I have really come to appreciate Quark, and I love how they developed Nog's character.

They done a pretty good job transitioning Jake and Nog into adults. With Nog it probably helped that Eisenberg was an actual adult throughout. Not easy seeing as early "hanging around outside the convenience store" Jake and Nog were pretty annoying.

Be the hokey, that'd better not be a dig at the greatest Next Gen episode of all time: Up The Long Ladder!

I think they flew very close to the sun in terms of how obnoxious they made Nog in the early stories. He certainly had a fine arc but it's worth noting the Ferengis most of us prefer are not very Ferengi. Rom, Nog and even (especially?) Quark.

There's always Brunt, I guess

Absolutely no reason to keep watching if you are not a big fan of Discovery. The last seasons are just the exact same thing with a new maguffin so unless you are heavily invested in Burnham as a character there is nothing. It goes back to sidelining everyone else which season 3 had actually done a good job giving time to.

Got a new dodgy box and ended up getting into a full run through of TNG when I was testing it out, despite being an internet addict and Trek fan since Newsgroup days there are a surprising amount of episodes I never heard of nevermind watched.

One of the ones Id never seen has to be one of the worst ever made and you dont see it discussed anywhere, "Rightful Heir". A group makes a Kahless clone and tries to pass it off as him returning and the Klingons just go along with it when this is found out? Worf thinks its a good idea? Gowron is the only good thing about the ep but even he says "yeah alright I suppose" and kneels before him at the end even after defeating him in a duel?

Its just insanity, the Klingon in any other episode or series would have torn him apart. Really weird acting from everyone and bad writing all over the place, just a bizarre episode all round.

Since peeps in a DS9 run...came across this on reddit

Bajoran Provisional Government struck me as more like the Free State. But then hard to see where Federation fits in... America was supportive but not as directly involved as Federation.

Federation could loosely be the general international community but it most resembles the EU with its opportunities for prosperity, security and wider access.

It doesn't fit as easy as the Cardassians and Bajorans though.

Definitely unintentional but hilarious how much the Irish character hates Cardassians.