Russia-Ukraine War (continuing)

Are there employees at these sites when they get hit? You never hear of human casualties but there must be some on occasion?

I presume the below update is what the fire point guy is referring too

It's a nice thought that Carlson, Candice Owens, Fuentes and their followers will face their day of reckoning. I think it will only get worse.

Over the last 20 years, but certainly since the explosion of social media and crank sites in the last decades we have see an erosion of what we had taken for granted in terms of political standards, independent journalism etc.

There is a school of thought that the current age is very similar in many ways to the invention of the printing press; after which we had very long period of chaos and violence; from the reformation of the church, witch burning and any old crank able to spread his ideas with a few hundred pamphlets.

What Carlson, Owens, Fuentes pedal has no basis in rational argument nor is there ever a venue for that. Combined with algorithms used by social media companies, (who's incentive structure is wired just for engagement) the ease with which a conspiracy theory, lies can gain traction by emotionally engaging with the public.

The key point is what they pedal was hugely influential in Trump recovering from Jan 6th and eventually Trump 2.

USA is probably more ripe than most places for such influence, given the prevalence even up to modern times for the crackpot Preacher. These people are just the modern equivalent of old school Bible thumpers/town square lunatic with his pamphlet but their reach is unprecedented.

AI has the means to curtail it if used properly but the incentive structure for clicks and for someone in the background to gain power is for AI to make this much worse.

We in the west have lived through the best times for any humans in history by any metric for wealth, freedom, health, leisure time etc etc.

What we have we huge with huge influence on the right is the far right lunatics I've mentioned and nothing but self hatred and ignorance of our history on the far left as to why we have lived through the most prosperous open period of history.

A balance between moderate left and right is what has been the norm in the west since WW2. I'm afraid that is now over with every institution which provided a structure for that stability now undermined from political system, journalism, churches, banks etc.

I imagine there are, however the Russians won't want to highlight the damage Ukraine is actually doing to them, so won't highlight it.

Meanwhile Ukraine also won't want to highlight any civilians in Russia who get killed as part of their strikes on refineries. Sonin the end no one talks about it.

To be honest in the scheme of this war, between soldiers and Ukrainian civilians, Russian civilian casualties make up such a small percentage of overall casualties it'll likely never become a significant talking point.

They probably evacuate dangerous areas when the drone sirens go off.

Idiotic comment. Yesterday I was the one posting about civilian casualties in Ukraine while everyone else was discussing Tucker Clarkson, which they also have a right to do. Then I ask a simple question about how these plants are operated as the lack of casualty reports always surprises me and immediately you assume it's a pro Russian move. I'd be quite happy for the war to come directly to Russian civilians, give them a taste of what Ukraine endures. Cop on, seriously.

you just asking questions

Jesus. Did you type that with a straight face? Putin is pounding Ukraine with missiles and drones while levelling towns and cities to the ground. But VZ is the one destroying Ukraine. That alone tells me everything I need to know about your approach to this topic. The words moral bankruptcy spring to mind. Cheerio.

Everyone equals a few posts, makes sense if you apply Russian inflation levels.

So Russia hits apartments and buildings. Ukraine hits war industry.

The Russians are a bit contradictory. On the one hand they seem to want to downplay attacks, on the other they openly said May 9 parade would be much reduced due to threat of Ukrainian attack on Moscow, which made them sound very vulnerable.

The only certain thing was that mini cease-fire would be followed by a massive attack, which is exactly what happened. Well over 20 now confirmed killed

Edit: Wrong thread.

I suppose that can be explained by their fear that an attack on such a public event would be impossible to conceal or play down. I wonder how much publicity was given within Russia to the fact that the event was being scaled down? Internet access is increasingly limited as I understand it, so presumably people are more dependent than ever on Putin's propaganda channels.