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Ukraine's ability to hit these target's consistently is impressive. Ryzan joining the party tonight. Strikes like this from Yemen brought the Saudi's to the table. I know Russia is a different beast but the outlook changes dramatically the longer this continues. What's it going to look like in 2027 if the EU and Ukraine keeps ramping up production.
Are there employees at these sites when they get hit? You never hear of human casualties but there must be some on occasion?
One interesting thing about these Irish/Western people who sing the praises of Putin, war, dictatorships etc. The clever ones who can see what’s “really” going on. Despite extolling the virtues of social and economic paradises like Russia, North Korea, Iran etc. they very rarely actually move to these places to avail of the wonderful opportunities and lifestyles on offer. Virtually never.
In fact they rarely even go on holidays there to soak in the vibes and culture. Just a surprising thing I noticed.
I wonder if Poland could do the same thing along its border with Ukr and especially Belarus.? That could put the ‘frightners’ on Lukashenko
One of the owners of fire point,the Ukrainian company that makes the flamingo missile.....
I presume the below update is what the fire point guy is referring too
There has been an uptick in nonsense
My theory is that either management performance review time approaches or a new Putin order to pick more employees to be sent to the front
It's a nice thought that Carlson, Candice Owens, Fuentes and their followers will face their day of reckoning. I think it will only get worse.
Over the last 20 years, but certainly since the explosion of social media and crank sites in the last decades we have see an erosion of what we had taken for granted in terms of political standards, independent journalism etc.
There is a school of thought that the current age is very similar in many ways to the invention of the printing press; after which we had very long period of chaos and violence; from the reformation of the church, witch burning and any old crank able to spread his ideas with a few hundred pamphlets.
What Carlson, Owens, Fuentes pedal has no basis in rational argument nor is there ever a venue for that. Combined with algorithms used by social media companies, (who's incentive structure is wired just for engagement) the ease with which a conspiracy theory, lies can gain traction by emotionally engaging with the public.
The key point is what they pedal was hugely influential in Trump recovering from Jan 6th and eventually Trump 2.
USA is probably more ripe than most places for such influence, given the prevalence even up to modern times for the crackpot Preacher. These people are just the modern equivalent of old school Bible thumpers/town square lunatic with his pamphlet but their reach is unprecedented.
AI has the means to curtail it if used properly but the incentive structure for clicks and for someone in the background to gain power is for AI to make this much worse.
We in the west have lived through the best times for any humans in history by any metric for wealth, freedom, health, leisure time etc etc.
What we have we huge with huge influence on the right is the far right lunatics I've mentioned and nothing but self hatred and ignorance of our history on the far left as to why we have lived through the most prosperous open period of history.
A balance between moderate left and right is what has been the norm in the west since WW2. I'm afraid that is now over with every institution which provided a structure for that stability now undermined from political system, journalism, churches, banks etc.
The hooker Trump's best buddy Epstein provided him with put it best:
I imagine there are, however the Russians won't want to highlight the damage Ukraine is actually doing to them, so won't highlight it.
Meanwhile Ukraine also won't want to highlight any civilians in Russia who get killed as part of their strikes on refineries. Sonin the end no one talks about it.
To be honest in the scheme of this war, between soldiers and Ukrainian civilians, Russian civilian casualties make up such a small percentage of overall casualties it'll likely never become a significant talking point.
imho if there were civilian casualties in Russia the Russian regime would be flooding western media with images and videos in order to sway public opinion, their bots already regularly compare Ukraine to Israel and Nazis
Not to mention galvanise their own apathetic population
It’s been incredible the lengths Ukraine have gone to avoid civilian Russia casualties
Anyways why are we talking about non existent Russian casualties a day after deliberate massive Russian attack on civilians with multiple casualties and deaths?
24 civilians dead in Ukraine after being deliberately targeted and here we are talking about theoretical nonsense, ffs 😠
They probably evacuate dangerous areas when the drone sirens go off.
Notice how the conversation got steered from actual deaths in Ukraine to theoretical nonexistent deaths in Russia
Latvian government collapses in row over Ukrainian drones mistakenly crashing in Latvia near the Russian border. Speculation Russia may be using EW to redirect them to cause problems between Ukraine and Russia. Latvia is already spending 5%.
It's nothing to do with pity for the Russians so drop the silly hysteria, it's just a question out of curiosity. I thought if there were casualties the Russians would want to emphasise it for propaganda purposes, yet at same time I can't imagine such huge plants are not manned by at least a handful of people at all times
Idiotic comment. Yesterday I was the one posting about civilian casualties in Ukraine while everyone else was discussing Tucker Clarkson, which they also have a right to do. Then I ask a simple question about how these plants are operated as the lack of casualty reports always surprises me and immediately you assume it's a pro Russian move. I'd be quite happy for the war to come directly to Russian civilians, give them a taste of what Ukraine endures. Cop on, seriously.
Probably you're right, this is all I needed to know
you just asking questions
Caolon Robertson's piece on Russia's attempts to reintegrate into the West via art/culture. Every EU country should be aware that on top of a decent supply of useful idiots there's also a near endless supply of people that can simply be bought off. Most people just have a price that helps them turn a blind eye.
Jesus. Did you type that with a straight face? Putin is pounding Ukraine with missiles and drones while levelling towns and cities to the ground. But VZ is the one destroying Ukraine. That alone tells me everything I need to know about your approach to this topic. The words moral bankruptcy spring to mind. Cheerio.
Calm down. There's nothing wrong with discussing any aspect of the war on a discussion forum. The only one ignoring Ukrainian deaths is our recently-reappeared Friend of Putin. 95% of people on this thread only want one outcome from this conflict, and teasing out the smaller details in between is perfectly healthy. It just completely undermines your argument if you're claiming there are zero civilian deaths in Russia. Of course there are. That's not bothsides-ing. That's acknowledging the difference between in war unfortunately there sometimes being collateral civilian casualties no matter what efforts are taken to avoid it and on the other hand, Putin who likes to specifically target civilians and civilian infrastructure including double tap strikes.
Everyone equals a few posts, makes sense if you apply Russian inflation levels.
My friend in Finland had a drone alert whilst we were talking
So Russia hits apartments and buildings. Ukraine hits war industry.
I would have thought the opposite - the last thing the Russians would want to do is publicise the damage these attacks are causing, or indeed the fact that they are happening at all.
The Russians are a bit contradictory. On the one hand they seem to want to downplay attacks, on the other they openly said May 9 parade would be much reduced due to threat of Ukrainian attack on Moscow, which made them sound very vulnerable.
The only certain thing was that mini cease-fire would be followed by a massive attack, which is exactly what happened. Well over 20 now confirmed killed
Because the Ukraine knows what is not a war crime.
Edit: Wrong thread.
The last time I checked the death toll of civilians was about 12:1 Ukrainian to Russian.
It's impossible not to kill some civilians even with just oil infrastructure and weapon infrastructure as targets.
It's clear a lot of Ukrainian deaths are coming from deliberate terror attacks.
I suppose that can be explained by their fear that an attack on such a public event would be impossible to conceal or play down. I wonder how much publicity was given within Russia to the fact that the event was being scaled down? Internet access is increasingly limited as I understand it, so presumably people are more dependent than ever on Putin's propaganda channels.
