Here we go again. Hantavirus

I'm afraid that you've mistaken me dor another post but I'm upset that you're upset if that helps? As I know you like to grandstand and make threads about you.

I will remain open to discussions about the ongoing event (it medically ends well after the new reel. You may rage against your own fears by hiding in your cynicism. You do you...).

I wouldn’t be at all surprised if some big Pharma company exploits this episode . They probably have a vaccine ready and waiting for a big uptake . This media frenzy will feed into that and some pharma company will use this to peddle their wares

This is getting serious. I now own nothing and I'm not happy, the 5G chip has kicked in from all the chemtrails and I'm out of Ivermectin and crystals. Can someone please help?

I envy you; it must be nice to have blind faith in your government and corporate overlords.

You are the only one introducing quacks and cranks; I have been only referring to the official health experts who are all saying hantavirus is no risk to the wider public as it is not transmissible like covid. The media are trying to make it a bigger deal than it is and that is the only reason we are still hearing about it.

Isn't everyone doing what they're supposed to do? The relevant government's are quarantining the infected people, the WHO is saying it's nothing to panic about, the media are making stories that people want to click on and pharmaceuticals are making a vaccine that people might want to buy.

Is anyone not doing what we expect?

Any evidence of this? Why would a company be waiting for a big uptake when it's not serious issue?

But since you mentioned exploitation

Absolutely agree with you about the shingles vaccine . I read HIQA recommended this to the Government but they deemed it too expensive to make it cost effective 😡

I just paid €500 for a shingles vaccine and am so very aware that I am very lucky to be able to do that. Not everyone can and its shocking that its not available to over 65 ‘s

I saw how it affected a few people I know and was willing to spend it to protect myself .

But Pharma always find a way to scare enough people to peddle their wares and I can see them exploiting this episode

My understanding of what I read online is that there's different versions of hantavirus. It's a version that someone would get spring cleaning attics maybe with mice and rat droppings. Apparantly it's not a nice virus but it's not a huge threat.

There's another version if the virus where you can get it the same way and it's transmissible from person to person.

I am not majorly concerned but I am wary about it.

Countries took home people from the ship and put them in quarantine. But what is quarantine facilities within each country?

Does Ireland have any quarantine facilities? Is it like asking people to go home and self isolate for a few weeks.

My concern is that you really can't trust people to do the right thing? My concern as well is that many people lack manners and hygiene. Even after all of the information about hygiene and germs at the time of Covids. It seems as if so many people relies on the government to tell them to do the right thing and how to cough and sneeze and wash their hands properly. Not body cares.

My partner likes cruises. Me not so much. The last cruise I was on was in 2022 and it was awful. So many people on board the ship were walking around coughing and I saw their coughs. It was coming from deep within their chest. But nobody had manners. They were walking around buffet areas coughing into the open and coughing everywhere. No attempt to cover their mouths or germs. Just cough, cough, cough, cough, cough as if it's so normal. I got off that ship so sick but never my partner even though we were together. It wasn't covid either because I covid tests along the way but it was still absolutely horrible. Cruises are so expensive and it doesn't make sense to spend such an amount on a weeks all inclusive holiday just to be exposed to sickness. I had to fill in a comment card at the end suggesting that they implement a hygiene campaign on board because it's not right to have so many people so close together and have so many people be so bad with hygiene and manners. I don't think I would ever be able to stomach another cruise. So much gluttony on board.

Since then I did European breaks and all the travelling I did, I haven't got sick from travelling on buses, planes etc. It was just on the last cruise ship.

When Covid came to an end I always thought the government should have maintained a hygiene campaign of some sort. Its good just for general health.

@goldsparkle I would disagree that IT IS NOT a huge threat.

Hantavirus fatality rate is far far higher than Coronavirus:

• Coronavirus is around 3.4%
• The case fatality rate for hantavirus pulmonary syndrome (HPS) is approximately 40% among those who develop severe disease.

One "advantage" of the higher fatality rate is Hantavirus kills the host too fast so doesnt spread as far as Covid might in the same time. Apparently an efficient virus is one that DOES NOT Kill its host because it can spread farther

Also keep in mind - one of the things we learned during Covid. Viruses evolve in infected peoples bodies to produce more efficient variants or more deadly. Also Hantavirus has an incubation period is 6 weeks vs something like a few days when compared to Covid.

Hantavirus does not easily spread like Covid / Airborne. With hantavirus you need to be in close proximity for a while and maybe also ingesting droplets from that patient.

With respect to human to human version - thats called the Andes Variant. this seems to originate in Argentina. I think that was where the first couple who died of this from that ship were - bird watching near a rubbish tip.