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Mayo GAA Discussion

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,434 ✭✭✭MacDanger


    Not a bad draw for either team



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91 ✭✭Vish81


    Probably the best draw Mayo could have asked for.

    Andy will be back in no time in front of the cameras.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,429 ✭✭✭Westernview


    Agreed. The best draw probably. A big performance needed regardless.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,418 ✭✭✭Charles Babbage


    Monaghan has the advantage of a big ground with no shortage of tickets for anyone who wants to go, albeit with a less good road to Mayo.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,980 ✭✭✭Coillte_Bhoy


    Eh? We've won 4 Connacht Minor, Galway haven't won since 2018. Won 3 U-21/20, Galway haven't won since 2020. And an AI title.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,429 ✭✭✭Westernview


    The minors have done ok granted. But U20 is the most important age group as its closest to senior. 1 title in 8 years. Sligo 2, Galway 2 + AI win, Roscommon 3. Thats not a good enough standard for Mayo.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,965 ✭✭✭✭charlie14


    Any time you beat them in Clones, especially in championship with the support the get in Clones, you will generally have earned your daily rations the hard way



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 778 ✭✭✭GBXI


    I reckon the Mayo underage stuff is way overplayed. They've been hugely competitive at minor and U20 the last 5 years even if they haven't won many trophies. It's a development grade for bringing players through to senior. Though I am surprised at how few have nailed down senior starting places in recent years - Kobe is the only one in the past 3 years. Who is the next youngest player on the starting 15? Sam Callinan?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,429 ✭✭✭Westernview


    You are right about winning titles not being the be all and end all but at connacht level its an indication of our overall well being.

    The lack of quality senior players coming through is an indication of issues with underage coaching. Its noticeable how players make the same errors in decision making and executing skills as those gone before.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 778 ✭✭✭GBXI


    The 2022 minor team for example, cruised through the Connacht group stages, beat Galway comfortably in the final, comfortably won their quarter and semi final (v Kerry) and then lost the final to Galway. That's one of the best underage teams we have produced but I can't believe how few are in the current Mayo senior 26. The should be around 20 or 21 now. John McMonagle I expect will get game time in the next two games. But no one else really has come through. Last U20s are starting to push through (including John Mc).



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,429 ✭✭✭Westernview


    Its very disappointing how few players came from that team. Ronan Clarke looked the pick of the forwards but has been cursed by injury. Mahedy another prospect but obviously not selected for off field reasons. I have heard a lot of talk about Diarmuid Duffy but he hasn't shown much at senior level yet.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 778 ✭✭✭GBXI


    It's incredible. Clarke I was sure would play senior football. Surprised Rio Mortimer hasn't broken through but maybe the pace isn't there. Mahedy is a very good club player, not sure about county. I'd have banked on McGreal at corner back and he started against Galway in the league this year but has been riddled with injuries.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,021 ✭✭✭✭irishgeo


    Why are the GAA dragging the arse of setting the time date for the game?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,248 ✭✭✭Dickie10


    anybody at the Mayo v Meath match last week?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 358 ✭✭Pat734


    No, not at it but was told they didn't win it. More important was what happened after the match. By all accounts the management don't see eye to eye and that's putting it mildly. I'm a bit surprised it hasn't come out in the media as it wasn't the type of confrontation that'll be swept under the carpet.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 552 ✭✭✭boosabum




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,248 ✭✭✭PressRun


    We lost by 6 points supposedly. Don't know who played or what they were trying out.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,235 ✭✭✭Panrich


    Well you were spot on with the appointment of the management team last year even though there were a few who called bs on that at the time. I'd be willing therefore to believe this and it's worrying that we seem to be always stuck on the fringes of self destruction



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,248 ✭✭✭PressRun


    It wouldn't shock me either. Andy Moran has been coming across as panicked in my view, and he has backed himself into a corner with the O'Connor and Hennelly of it all. He went and pursued them and asked them to come back when he could have just let it be. He should have taken it as an opportunity to start fresh.

    That said, there are big problems across the county in all grades and in the club scene, regarding the type of players being produced and the overall quality. Any manager who took on the senior job was going to have a big task on their hands. I don't know what the answers are.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,021 ✭✭✭✭irishgeo


    Are you going to spit it out or not?

    Otherwise it's just more mayo rumours.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 358 ✭✭Pat734


    No, I'm not and the reasons should be obvious. Oh, it certainly did happen and not rumours and it ain't settled either.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,429 ✭✭✭Westernview


    Nature abhors a vacuum and Mayo football always needs a rumour to fill up gaps in the playing season, especially when things aren't going well. Maybe you are right but unless you saw it yourself or first hand or heard from someone that saw it directly we can't place too much emphasis on it.

    One thing I have been surprised at is that I haven't heard Boyle interviewed much at all. As someone that has been very accomplished on sports media I would have thought Andy would have him talking more.

    What bugs me is how did Andy convince Hennelly and Cillian to return? Hennelly had transferred from his club and was seemingly done with Mayo, while Cillian was struggling to stay fit even for Tubber. I would hope that no assurances were given about playing time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,248 ✭✭✭PressRun


    Unfortunately I find it hard to imagine they would have come back at their age and stage of their careers if they hadn't been offered such assurances.

    A further question to Andy would be if we really are on "year one of a three year project", as he says, what was the sense in bringing back players whose best days are behind them and who had already walked away? Maybe it would make sense if we were a well-developed squad within touching distance of an All Ireland and they might be able to offer an extra percentage, but we are nowhere near winning an All Ireland. The squad needs to be rebuilt and year one is the stage at which one should have been wiping the slate clean to begin that process. So what indeed was the logic here?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,235 ✭✭✭Panrich


    Cillian and Robbie have been around the setup that was so close to the summit that they can at least pass on to others what levels are required. You can never have too much of that type of experience to pass on to young players.

    The problem is what guarantees come with having them around.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,429 ✭✭✭Westernview


    I believe Andy was fully going for it this year. The fact he only had Kobe for 1 year and he thought he might be able to wring a few last tunes from the older crew was probably too tempting for him. It was clearly a big mistake. Talk of a 3 year process was only a defence mechanism against hard questions from an interviewer. But that is what it has become now whether he likes it or not.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,021 ✭✭✭✭irishgeo


    Maybe only Robbie is back for one season while Reaper has stepped away.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,637 ✭✭✭spakman


    Reape ain't the answer either.

    Re Boyler, there's no need to have all mgmt members out giving interviews - Andy is plenty.

    This is a real test of Andy's abilities, temperament and ruthlessness - let's see how he handles it. I'm not overly confident though.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,581 ✭✭✭Audioslaven


    tbh they would want to shut the hell up and let football do the talking. Too much bs talk imo



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57 ✭✭The Supporter


    Donie Smith described the Tyrone match for Roscommon "As a Dangerous Game" why is nobody from Mayo describing the Monaghan Game as a Dangerous Game for Mayo which indeed it is. Mayo underestimated Roscommon and paid a high price (I heard there was shock in the Mayo camp after the Roscommon Game) which would indicate they never saw it coming. I believe Jason Sherlock is the trump card in the Roscommon setup, he was Jim Gavins right hand man in one of the best GAA Football Management Team ever, we have no one of that caliber in the Mayo Management Team. Why have we so many Mayo Players at present who have no fight, tenacity, who seem even timid. Donie Smith in that interview described Roscommons greatest asset as speed, we seem to be sticking with players who have lost their pace. Andy has to make a big decision - does he stay with his former comrades (who!s best days are behind them) or give youth a chance. Surely Jack Livingstone has to be in goal the next day.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,547 ✭✭✭naughto




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