PK@rte.ie (again). The All New (Patrick Kielty) Late Late Show Thread

it seems that residuals for Irish actors for re-broadcast on RTÉ are quite lucrative for them, or more expensive than repeating a US or UK drama, actors in those drama get roalties when repeated / shown on streamers.

@RoTelly thats crazy, how did actors get so much power way back then in little old ireland, sure RTE was the only game in town for those actors back in the 80s, why would RTE agree to such royalties for actors then? All the actors had to do was turn up and get paid they didnt have to worry about the production costs or whether the show was a success. Sure the actors in Fr Ted dont get any royalties and that is highly successful and oft repeated show worldwide?

https://www.independent.ie/opinion/letters/letters-rte-is-the-engineer-of-its-own-decline-to-benefit-of-others/a1935207775.html I do agree with this on some points.

  I am a somewhat cynical and contrarian transfemme myself and I agree. The last time I remember LLS covering trans stuff was well into Tubridy's days, where he featured the transgender activist Laylah Beattie and Caitlyn Jenner, before she became the baffling hypocrite she is now (simultaneously asking to be considered a natal male while moaning her podcast doesn't have F on it - what a spoofer) .  Maybe RTE don't want to get the ire of TRAs, after the notorious anti-trans Liveline week a few years ago (which I took part in, when I was far more idealistic and naive than I am now).

But I do feel an absence, not just of people like O'Malley, Joyce, etc, but people like Jenny Maguire or Liath Hannon, actual young Irish trans women thriving and in the public eye.

I feel it was a missed opportunity recently that the controversial transgender filmmaker Louise Weard, director of the Castration Movie series was in Dublin for a festival, and didn't appear on the LLS (maybe because it clashed with a screening of her movie). In the days of Gaybo, such an interesting, provocative guest would be on, talking about her film and their transition, and also like the best LLS guests, would shock the plain people of rural Ireland. But now, they're too busy having the two Johnnies or Doireann Garrihy, my generation's Twink

I wonder is it wokeism, they might consider it to be so unfashionable by today's standards or controversial (for today) the topics played out. There isn't even a discussion about it yet it would seem like an easy and cheap way to fill slots at off peak times?

I'd also argue Period Drama tends to have a longer life span than contemporary drama. It is strange to think you can produce a 1990s drama but that a repeat of a contempory drama from that era has gone out of fashion, but on the other hand a 1960s drama from the 1990s will be on continuous repeat

@RoTelly

Surely glenroe from the early 80s and also late late shows from that era are hardly contemporary now, 1980 is 46 years ago now. It would definitely get an audience at off peak hours late at night.

It seems to me that people in RTE don't want stuff from that era re broadcast because it could be controversial in their eyes. Maybe people might hark back for some of the things we used to have from that era. I suspect there is more to this than it simply being old fashioned.

Another example the live aid concerts from 1985 were re released and now its all up on youtube and gets large viewings. Yet the self aid concert from 1986 broadcast by RTE with the best irish artists in their prime is left in an RTE archive, Why ?

That concert would receive alot of traffic even now internationally there would be interest.

We really don't know and RTÉ have always been bad at explaining why they don't repeat their own programming from a few years back.

For example when Glenroe ended in 2001 RTÉ was repeating Sons and Daughters and Dallas during the day on RTÉ 1, they could have added Glenroe to those repeats. I think TG4 repeated Bracken around that time.

“We really don't know and RTÉ have always been bad at explaining why they don't repeat their own programming from a few years back.”

I’d love to see more extended versions of TLLS from 70s and 80s- not just some short edited clips like they did for that Gay Byrne talks back or whatever the show was called.

But honestly, outside of that and Glenroe, can you think of any RTÉ programmes that you’d want to watch again?
RTÉ shows in the main were absolute tripe- do you really want repeats of Davis at Large, BiBi and Ryan Town? 🤪

Caught in a Free State pops up as a lost gem.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caught_in_a_Free_State

“But if they ever set up RTÉ GOLD TV they'd soon be out of programmes to show.”

They would. In fairness, they did radio very well- an RTÉ Radio Gold would be great - Gerry Ryan Show, Gay Byrne Hour, Late Date, The Arts Show-

I remember Leave it to Mrs O”Brien- it was absolutely horrendous - it certainly wasn’t designed for a mainstream 18-35 audience that is for fcking sure 😀

This is what Wiki has to say:

According to the 

Irish Independent

, "One TV critic wanted those responsible 'thrown on the dole and given lousy references'". The network's defense that the series was meant to appeal to undiscriminating viewers, particularly children and the elderly, only invited further criticism.

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You won't get Tolka Row. I'm pretty sure all tapes, with the exception of the final episode, were wiped.

Most Chat Shows don't get repeated a number of years after their production, they might be repackaged. Have the BBC ever repeat Wogan or Parkinson? Aspel? even a series of This is Your Life?

@RoTelly Some of the parkinson interviews from 1970s have been repeated on bbc 4, saw some on it a few months ago, they were not very famous people either, forgotten actors that were big back then maybe, however it was still fascinating to watch. RTE should have alot of interesting stuff from LLS , i know the 60s and early 70s stuff was wiped but there still should be plenty of material. Even if they made it available to view online. There is some stuff that comes up on the RTE archive page on facebook which is interesting though.