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That Trump thread is a joke (IMHO)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,071 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    When people talked about Biden and Harris it was in comparison with trump, both had their issues, both were and still are more capable leaders than trump has been as is prove-ably true by the trainwreck that is trumps second term and repeated insanities (doctored → he's a doctor, no plan for the Iran war that they "won", Epstein files that he vowed to release are a hoax, ICE shooting US citizens and many more examples).

    But again, like trump in the Epstein files and being a rapist in the Carroll case, despite all evidence to the contrary, they get brought up again and again by trump supporters and derail the thread with virtually 0 policy being discussed by trump supporters (we almost had one of them go full conspiracy mode on the 2020 election but they lost the courage of their convictions).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 357 ✭✭Arseboxing


    I was banned the other day for telling the truth about the depraved beliefs that drive Trump's supporters like you but I didn't see you sticking up for my free speech, you were calling for me to be banned if I remember rightly.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,707 ✭✭✭FAILSAFE 00


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    When the CA Trump discussion thread find out someone has left feedback regarding their hate campaign thread that is masquerading as a discussion thread.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,379 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    This is the riveting content that you are refusing to post on the thread?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,633 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Underlying it all is the sort of "call an EGM at short notice and make sure all my buddies are there to railroad in changes over the actual majority view" mentality you see destroying so many clubs and communities.

    Imagine being bothered that the posters on the actual thread turn up to a helpdesk / feedback thread about it.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,594 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    Trump is an imbecile, an idiot, how could people vote for him ?

    They must all be racists or poorly educated.

    Anyone that comes on the Trump thread and doesnt tow the official Trump is a Nazi, Racist, Dictator, and source of all evil in the world, line is a Trumper, and hence a racist, poorly educated, moron etc etc.

    Thats the level of discourse in that thread.

    Bait, goad, insult, try to get a reaction, then mass report posts in a concerted effort. Utterly predictable and pathetic. This is how grown men get their kicks.

    Teacher it was him.

    Pretty good video on how intelligent Trump is.

    Post edited by MisterAnarchy on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,825 ✭✭✭✭martingriff


    How there others come to our thread and use there speech



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,633 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    So Trump's moments of getting things spectacularly wrong is just an act is it?

    Trump gave a race baiting speech about immigrants eating pets. Designed to incite racial hatred. It was false and without foundation.

    If Trump didnt know it was false he is an idiot. If he knew it was lies and put it out there to race bait that's just as bad.

    Racist or poorly educated seems a good description of those who lapped it up.

    Of course his corrupt cronies dont care as long as they get their cut.

    And what this has to do with the moderation of the thread is anyone's guess.

    Seems like the thread has been hijacked far from its original purpose and is now being used by posters banned from the CA thread to discuss Trump and not its moderation.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,244 ✭✭✭growleaves


    The Trump thread reminds me of the "screaming therapy" John Lennon underwent in the 1970s. Lennon was being helped by Dr. Arthur Janov to try to release deep-seated childhood traumas and emotional pain through screaming.

    Mods should step in and demand a bit of calm.

    You have lads logging in at 9am to go on a tirade against the vile, insipid, vain, narcissist, mafioso, bullying grifter etc. then they might be ranting about a vile piece of excrement who doesn't deserve to live at five to midnight before they climb into bed and that's a typical day.

    Is that healthy? It looks to me like a series of emotional tirades masquerading as a politics discussion.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,633 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Earlier on the thread you used the phrase "tear their own skin off with indignation" about other posters.

    You seem to be diagnosing and speaking for yourself, if that is actually how you feel about the thread yet therefore inexplicably continue to post in it and even in a thread about it.

    It is nothing for mods to be bothering themselves about. Mods are there to enforce the forum charter and site rules not engage in pop psychology of posters.

    Any poster is free to follow or unfollow as they see fit.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,244 ✭✭✭growleaves


    No I'm speaking about the posters who go into big emotional diatribes constantly. They are flipping out big-time. Not literally tearing at their skin but figuratively.

    Weird and unwholesome.

    All I posted on thread recently was a basic point of infomation about an AI video. I'm not on there night and day ranting.

    "If you can keep your head while all about you are losing theirs and blaming it on you"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,633 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    That might just be how some people 'vent' or release. It is not something for you or I or mods to judge. And really it is neither here nor there as far as the thread moderation should be concerned. Each to their own and absolutely not something for mods to be trying to second guess.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,958 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    THIS Trump thread is a joke.

    😂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,620 ✭✭✭PokeHerKing


    This is not the case. I was banned for 6 months the other day for "being a dick".

    I refered to a poster as helen lovejoy after they asked me did they need to spell something out to me with crayons.

    The poster "being a dick" to me continues to post freely. Its back to the usual one way modding we had pre bankruptcy scare.

    It is indeed a complete echo chamber. Which is fine if thats what posters want. But lets at least be honest about that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,244 ✭✭✭Sudden Valley


    Odd that there are still posters who post either neutral or pro Trump posts on the thread.

    This is reading more like a dispute resolution thread now without any the mods actually responding. Maybe the other poster was warned but to be honest posters can make any claim they want on their bans here.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,001 ✭✭✭✭Ha Long Bay


    Just to be clear for anyone else like myself reading this thread did you received a 6 month ban for a single post or accumulation of multiple warned posts?

    The way you described that single post incident does not sound like it should occur a 6 month thread ban.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,707 ✭✭✭FAILSAFE 00


    I'd have to agree with that.

    Call it the Trump rant thread or the Trump TDS thread



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,620 ✭✭✭PokeHerKing


    No culmination. Just a new mod on a power trip.

    And im not pro Trump by any stretch. I said i get a laugh out of Trumps madness at times and it was responded to by saying i laugh at children being bombed.

    Which of course i dont. I laugh at things like calling Ted Cruz wife a dog etc.

    Anyway we saw similar before bankruptcy.

    The mods very much mod based off their own povs. Creating an echo chamber. And bankrupting the site.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,620 ✭✭✭PokeHerKing


    Im not shocked. I got no response over DM to my ban amd query re the two posters "being dicks" to me who both continue to post.

    You can see the interactions in the thread themselves. I fully expect this echo chamber to be bankrupt again before my ban ends though



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,379 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    Memes and "TDS" I dont think you'd bring balance to a discussion.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,633 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    No culmination of warnings? Really? You got a 6 month ban in CA for a first offence?

    A DRP thread can be started for a lengthy CA ban, especially one that doesnt follow the declared list of number of offences = ban of longer length.

    I dont find your version of events credible and I suspect that is why you are making vague claims about it here. If you had a leg to stand on you would be in DRP.

    At the time you made the Helen Lovejoy remark, crayons had not been mentioned. But according to you thats what prompted your remark.

    Your story doesnt add up.

    So no indication of a "new mod on a power trip" as you describe it. Just a mod applying the rules.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,620 ✭✭✭PokeHerKing


    I have not been warned in any thread since the bankruptcy removing of over bearing moderation. Culmination was not mentioned as a reason for my 6 months.

    Mod has not responded to my DMs.

    My Helen lovejoy comment was made in response to another poster calling my post the dumbest thing theyd ever read. Crayon post was posted very shortly after.

    You've read the interactions based off your response. So you know exactly what was said. You can choose to believe its balanced modding but non biased people know thats bull.

    Neither poster was banned but i was for calling someone helen lovejoy in response to their rediculous bombing children comment.

    Ive seen plenty of people challenging bans to no avail. I dont really care enough to challenge it.

    I posted in here because someone quoted the post bankruptcy modding rules like they were still in operation but theyre clearly not.

    Its back to one sided echo chamber modding. Which is fine if thats what the masses on here want.

    But dont bull$hit a bull$hitter.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,633 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    So you had accumulated previous warnings in CA.

    When the new CA rules were declared, all previous thread bans were lifted. It said nothing about clearing slate of prior CA mod sanctions . And at the time I raised the query if they expired after X and admin team were clear there was no auto process to do so. It was at mod discretion how much weight they afforded to elapsed time since the previous sanctions. I felt this could be unfair to posters with a long history in the forum.

    Your stated reason for passing a remark about another poster was false, and you are already changing your justification. Regardless in a single post instead of clarifying your position you chose to slight two other posters so it is not hard to see why that led to moderator sanction.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,620 ✭✭✭PokeHerKing


    While it would still be pre bankruptcy levels of modding ive no issue with being warned and or banned if culmination is still there.

    My problem is the one sided modding. Both posters "where being dicks' but only i was warned/banned.

    And thats because the mod deemed the other guys as the "good guys" because they align more with their views.

    That is why you see an echo chamber. And again as long as thats what people are happy to have im fine with that.

    But anyone who doesnt think theyre in an echo chamber is deluded. Which is the reason I posted in this thread to begin with.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,633 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Or maybe they just skirted the 'attack the post not the poster' rule but your posts unambiguously attacked the posters.

    And the reason the thread has a large majority view critical of Trump is that that reflects the broader view of Trump in Irish society. And anyone trying to put forward an alternative view has an objectively weak hand.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,620 ✭✭✭PokeHerKing


    Heavy modding is skewing it unnecessarily further though imo. Its the slippiest of roads believing censorship is ok because you think youve got the moral high ground.

    Ah cmon now, I called a poster helen lovejoy.

    They asked me did I things spelt out in crayons and another poster said my post was the dumbest thing theyve ever read.

    Ever read like? On the internet? In dis day and age??

    All handbags stuff that needed zero moderating to begin with. But you cant argue anything is worse than the other surely? Unless ya know youre biased.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,633 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    You referred to a poster as Helen Lovejoy, repeatedly, sometimes not even in reply to them but just on the thread.
    So yeah, that's worse imo.

    Also, in the same post where you used that phrase, you also said to another poster: "I know your comprehension is sketchy".

    The crayons phrase only came out after you, instead of engaging in good faith and clarifying your position after making some frankly obtuse and open to interpretation remarks, resorted to "handbags".

    Ah cmon now yourself.

    The case presented on this thread for this supposed highly biased modding is very weak.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,620 ✭✭✭PokeHerKing


    I said helen lovejoy once, and once only.

    The comprehension is sketchy comment was in direct response to being told my post was the dumbest thing theyve ever read.

    Its wild that youve bothered to go back and read the interaction yet continue to be so obtuse.

    Anyway im out. Enjoy your day.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,379 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    I'm shocked the sudden 6 month unprovoked ban was in fact a culmination. I suppose its more dramatic for the echo conspiracy to try and claim it was a 1st offence - but as usual the reality is different.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,633 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Nope. You used the phrase twice, in posts

    #5841729-04-2026 03:28PM

    #5842029-04-2026 03:39PM

    That's the second time you've given a false account of what happened on the thread.
    I'm surprised that you thought you could be so casual with the facts of an incident that just happened. The posts are still on the first page of your post history.
    If you were making claims about something that happened months ago, your false account might have gone unchallenged.

    Am I surprised you have racked up so many warnings on CA to have a 6 month ban.
    Not at all.

    I do think a 6 month ban for one post after a long period back to previous sanction is a bit harsh, as I have previously commented, but other posters from different sides of the debate have fallen foul of that. It is not evidence of bias.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



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