Advertisement
Help Keep Boards Alive. Support us by going ad free today. See here: https://subscriptions.boards.ie/.
https://www.boards.ie/group/1878-subscribers-forum

Private Group for paid up members of Boards.ie. Join the club.
Hi all, please see this major site announcement: https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058427594/boards-ie-2026

Leinster Team Talk Thread (Love you Furlong time)

1145214531455145714581529

Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,376 ✭✭✭✭Clegg


    Leo picking up on what Joe McCarthy was talking about in the run in to last seasons URC victory.

    Think this applies to some posters here too.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 33,942 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    Leo Cullen can piss off. He has had a blessed existence with a lack of critical coverage



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,085 ✭✭✭50HX


    Think this goes all the way back to the "us against everybody " siege mentality after last years defeat.

    He has a chip on his shoulder since, we saw wrinkles of it in the interview in Thomond at xmas.

    He's under pressure...thats the gig Leo



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 94 ✭✭revth1990


    Sams clearly a shite tackler …… but its his unwillingness to put his body on the line for his team mates that pissed me off the most. Ringrose misses plenty of tackles but he dives head first like a bullet into everything.

    Sam sticks his hands out and tries to grab players instead of hitting them with his shoulder because hes afraid to get hurt. I wouldnt mind if he was just only a bad tackler but being unwilling to put your head where it hurts for your teammates is unacceptable.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,376 ✭✭✭✭Clegg


    Nah, you only have to see it in this thread before the game. No faith in the team and posters expecting Leinster to lose. Hope they're sick after this. They can't take any pleasure from the win.



  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 689 ✭✭✭user060916


    I'm torn, in a way, I can't believe it's been so long since Leinster won the champions cup / Heineken cup. But how far they've gone every year is extremely impressive.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,374 ✭✭✭bingobango12


    Don’t agree with you fully to be honest. I do think Cullen has had his time but I also think the media love making a meal about anything that will get them a column.

    I think it’s fair to call out some of the b*llshit media for what they are. The likes of Rúaidhrí O'Connor, Cian Treacy and even Burch will say anything to get them an extra column.

    You’d swear Leinster were bottom of the URC with the narrative. Same with Munster to be honest. These journalists try their hardest to make a story to put nonsense on a page. They delight In negativity.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,287 ✭✭✭✭The Iron Giant


    Absolute nonsense. He's been getting shite every year since the win in Bilbao for underachieving.

    Irrespective or whether the criticism has been right or wrong, to claim he's had a "blessed existence" is utter bóllocks.

    Any success they've had has been "expected" whereas when they lose, his head is called for.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,880 ✭✭✭leakyboots


    He was lucky Toulon knocked on at the end. Him laughing at Ringrose missing the conversion like it was the end of a Barbarians testimonial would be GIF-for-life material.

    Leinster have had a blessed run to the final but that's the luck of the draw, anything can happen in a final



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 892 ✭✭✭darkened_scrum


    Both extremely puerile and extremely false. He gets no critical coverage? What are you talking about?



  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 978 ✭✭✭PmMeUrDogs


    Leo got nothing but **** on here and in the media last year, demands for silverware etc etc.

    The team produced silverware and it wasn't good enough because it was URC.

    This year we've just made it into the finals of the champions cup and still this entire season, people have **** on the team and Leo incessantly.

    Plenty of criticism is valid but ultimately we are finalists. No, we've not played the quick, sleek, easy rugby we used to. But we're finalists and still that's not good enough for so many people? Support your team ffs



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,456 ✭✭✭FtD v2


    Lots of really good aspects of today’s performance.

    Pack were substantially better. Our scrum dominated (and they should have probably had a yellow after 5 penalties conceded).

    Our lineout was 100%. Our restarts were all 100%. Doris’ carrying into contact was immense, Josh had a big game before departing, Porter was excellent.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,376 ✭✭✭✭Clegg


    Tbf to Doris.

    He's a feckin superstar.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,608 ✭✭✭techdiver


    I'm actually sick of teams being so unprepared for these situations. It's a bloody kick a 12 year old could nail yet we've not one adult on the pitch that can do it? The acceptance of this crap in rugby annoys me. Every player should have basic skills including kicking regardless of the number of your back. To not have a single backup in the 15 on the pitch is shocking.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,085 ✭✭✭50HX


    As an outsider here i find it now laughable the sudden defense of Cullen now that ye are in a final.

    He as the head of the group is absolutely entitled to the level of criticism.

    There is a yearly high expectation for this team deliver & thats fully justified imo when you have a team stacked with Ireland internationals & a sprinkle of high end NIQ's esp last season & now test Lions as well.

    Given the success of the irish team in the past decade it would be bizarre not to think that the provincial team with the bulk of the same players should transfer that to club success also.

    How many of ye here would be defending Cullen if the result was the other way today? Coupled with some head scratching coaching decisions at times...see Jordie as sub at the top of that pile.

    Ye are right to demand success considering the squad & resources available.

    I dont think ye fully realise what's in front of ye at times....the envy of most clubs in world rugby for a very good reason.

    Somehow ye still have a head coach in charge who has delivered 1 CC in ten years & for the reasons above thats simply not good enough

    With ref to @Podge_irl post on Cullen



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 721 ✭✭✭Madeoface


    100% on Sam. His tackling and positioning was awful. Liked the look of him but not up to this level today.

    Another gripe is the non opening of the bars at the end, as usual in the Aviva, which could facilitate a relaxed exodus... And the bizzare decision to close off exiting by the dodder and having thousands of people walk through a residential area instead.

    At 29 v 11 this should have been a waltz thereafter. Poor game management. Will have to watch it back when I'm home



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 506 ✭✭✭The Macho Man


    That's absolutely not true. Was at the match. Other than a bad kicking day he played well. SPs attempt at tackling Serin I think for a try, was an absolute embarrassment. Leinster playing this brand of rugby surely will not win the final.

    Scrum was excellent, Ioane finally had a good game. Very good game. Jaminet is about the hardest player to tackle, incredible performance from him in the 2nd half.

    Leinster have become really tough to watch. There was one brief period in the 2nd half where they looked like their old selves but then they slow it down. The free flowing, strike play rugby is no more.

    Seriously, and this extends to Ireland, Sextons loss has left a performance chasm. Who's driving standards on the pitch?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,374 ✭✭✭bingobango12


    My defense was not on Cullen as a coach. It was on his response to a nonsense question/comment by a reporter. I won’t speak for people but I’d imagine many are the same.

    Irish sports journalists are dirt in my opinion. They live to create issues and problems. Listen to them on podcasts, it’s very rare they say a positive thing without it following a “but”.

    I agree with your general comment about it not being good enough since Cullen has been in charge, but he is spot on to call out journalist negativity for what it is.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 33,942 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    A bad kicking day is part and parcel of being a 10.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,456 ✭✭✭FtD v2


    That summarises my views of him too.

    I’ve been hugely critical of Cullen and the coaches for a long time. We’ve left trophies behind us and I don’t think these windows are open forever. Equally - for Nienaber, who I’ve been hugely critical of, he deserves credit as our defence was largely excellent today (well for the first 65 mins or so until Sam was introduced).

    But absolutely agreed on the criticism of Irish rugby journalism; which is by and large shite. A handful of notable exceptions, but some of them are genuinely awful.



  • Advertisement
  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 33,942 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    Can anyone point out criticism in the media of Cullen and his general lack of success prior to this season? The SF loss to NH has broken a bit of a dam, but the underperformance and lacklustre attitude to the URC has been there before then. Cullen has faced almost zero criticism for 8 years of failure at European level - and he is doing a great job at bringing through talent for Ireland but that is not the be all and end all.

    The negativity is entirely a result of the negative performances and results and it is long, long overdue.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,456 ✭✭✭FtD v2


    Nah, there has been a steady stream of criticism since they lost the first final v La Rochelle, and he got enormous criticism in 2023 when he picked a second string side and threw away the URC semi v Munster and then bottled a big lead in the European final v La Rochelle again.

    Part of the most frustrating thing about how the Irish media cover Leinster in the last 5 years or so is that they their successes are dismissed as “So what? They’ve got the best squad etc etc” and their defeats are overblown to enormous levels.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,374 ✭✭✭bingobango12


    Whatever about the bullshit negative journalists, what a great day. This isn’t a day to be negative on the coaching team to be honest.
    Really good performance, particularly by the pack.

    Brilliant to be in another final, it’s incredible to be in the top couple of teams in Europe for so long and long may it continue.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 33,942 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    I simply don't agree on this. He should have been excoriated for that URC semi final. There should have been knives out for his dismissal. There was nothing even close to this. I read a lot of Irish media and I just don't recognise this concept of consistent criticism.

    In the last 5 years Leinster have won two domestic trophies. "So what" is an entirely legitimate response when they are a club with 10+ Lions.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,456 ✭✭✭FtD v2


    Watching the game back and genuinely baffled at two decisions that weren’t even really reviewed in the space of about 2 mins, around the 19-20 min mark.

    The hit from Sinckler on JGP as he’s going to score the try: Sinckler just leans/drops the shoulder into JGP, zero attempt to wrap, knocking JGP into the post. Blatant obvious foul play.

    On the very next attack - Brex’s late hit on Tommy O’Brien after he’d grubbered through was way late and so incredibly obvious. There’s no way Brex was committed; incredibly obvious infringement.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,456 ✭✭✭FtD v2


    I’m not saying he wasn’t facing legitimate criticism a lot of the time too; I’ve been calling for him to be gone since we lost the URC semi in Pretoria the year Glasgow won it.

    But a lot of the Irish rugby journalism is just bullshit muck spreading and rumour lingering too; so would understand why Cullen isn’t a fan of a lot of the press corps.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,287 ✭✭✭✭The Iron Giant


    Absolutely laughable to suggest Leo has had almost zero criticism. Here's two but honestly, I could find loads.

    1000164146.png 1000164145.png


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,064 ✭✭✭yosser hughes




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,057 ✭✭✭johnh6767


    Agreed worked very effectively although one wink link on wing as replacement can cause proper damage



  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,057 ✭✭✭johnh6767


    Leinster are now in 5 out of 8 finals since their last win which shows a massive consistency and obliterates every other team who has come in and out of form. Toulon when they had nothing to lose were dangerously close to famous comeback. Bench selection is a real debate now as we were exposed with Sam outside of his natural habitat. Forwards were immense, Porter & Clarkson leading the charge, and Rieko to me was player of the match as he saved 14 points in defence !! Bilbao 2026



Advertisement
Advertisement