Leinster Team Talk Thread (Love you Furlong time)

.ak

“I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.”
-Harry Byrne, Muad'Dib

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bayern

Dev confirms he wants to play at least 1 more season on Luke's podcast.

Says he is currently in negotiations with Leinster about extending his contract.

Also notably said that Leo has taken a step back from forwards coach and that Robin McBryde has taken over there.

arsebiscuits1

bayern wrote: »

Dev confirms he wants to play at least 1 more season on Luke's podcast.

Says he is currently in negotiations with Leinster about extending his contract.

Also notably said that Leo has taken a step back from forwards coach and that Robin McBryde has taken over there.

Dev as well spoken as ever.

The way he phrased the negotiation question suggests to me that he's in a strong position for an extension of some sort - something I did not think would be tabled so fair play to him.

Good to see him bigging up Jack Dunne too. He's a slow burner compared to Baird or Ryan but hopefully he can start kicking on further soon. Has the attributes to be a great pro

degsie

The last thing ould Dev needs is an extension!

Sangre

degsie wrote: »

The last thing ould Dev needs is an extension!

It would be a great bit of business. He's the only type of Toner that never runs low.

Leinster Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread XII Too good for the Pro 14

sebdavis

At the moment Dev should be resigned. I expect Fardy will be released and Toner is playing decent rugby for Pro14 level. He will be a great player to have during the international windows

arsebiscuits1

sebdavis wrote: »

At the moment Dev should be resigned. I expect Fardy will be released and Toner is playing decent rugby for Pro14 level. He will be a great player to have during the international windows

Hundred percent.

Presuming Baird and Ryan will be unavailable during international windows and kept on ice with a possibility of Ryan missing most of the start of next season if/when the Lions tour goes ahead.

Having someone like Dev would help greatly with Molony and Dunne in situ.

Hopefully Charlie Ryan can make the step up next season

bayern

arsebiscuits1 wrote: »

Hundred percent.

Presuming Baird and Ryan will be unavailable during international windows and kept on ice with a possibility of Ryan missing most of the start of next season if/when the Lions tour goes ahead.

Having someone like Dev would help greatly with Molony and Dunne in situ.

Hopefully Charlie Ryan can make the step up next season

Ryan's struggled to stay healthy in his 2 years in the academy. But he is the most likely to be called upon given Deeny has missed this year with a knee injury and McCarthy is quite raw and young. Wouldn't be surprised to Josh Murphy called upon more at 4.

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pickarooney

And it's Byrnes, Byrnes, Byrnes

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shaungil

pickarooney wrote: »

And it's Byrnes, Byrnes, Byrnes

Of Byrnes, Osbournes and O'Brien's.

Dubinusa

Really am looking forward to seeing Charlie Ryan. I thought he was great at u20 level. He looks a serious l/o operator.
Maybe an extension for Dev is wise. I prefer Murphy at 6, he is better there, imo. Murphy will be putting the heat on Ruddock fairly soon.

bayern

Dubinusa wrote: »

Really am looking forward to seeing Charlie Ryan. I thought he was great at u20 level. He looks a serious l/o operator.
Maybe an extension for Dev is wise. I prefer Murphy at 6, he is better there, imo. Murphy will be putting the heat on Ruddock fairly soon.

Ryan's lack of athleticism will be his biggest issue.

Dubinusa

bayern wrote: »

Ryan's lack of athleticism will be his biggest issue.

Maybe! But Dev is unathletic and has done well. If Charlie Ryan develops into a Ross Molony or Alan O' Connor type, that'll be fine.
I did think that Deeny looks a little more athletic. But Ryan ran the l/o brilliantly.

bayern

Dubinusa wrote: »

Maybe! But Dev is unathletic and has done well. If Charlie Ryan develops into a Ross Molony or Alan O' Connor type, that'll be fine.
I did think that Deeny looks a little more athletic. But Ryan ran the l/o brilliantly.

Dev has a few more inches/kg on Ryan.

A little bit more athletic? Deeny is miles more athletic.

Deeny played 7's for ireland underage, I can't imagine what Ryan would look like trying to play 7's.

Deeny is raw though and missing out on most of his irish 20's season and tearing his acl this season won't have helped him.

scott1974

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Michael Bent for President.

Richie_Rich89

Is a Friday game? They're probably naming the team today if so. I think I would go with something like:

1. Peter Dooley
2. Dan Sheehan
3. Thomas Clarkson
4. Jack Dunne
5. Ross Molony
6. Josh Murphy
7. Scott Penny
8. Alexis Soroka
9. Luke McGrath
10. Harry Byrne
11. Rory O'Loughlin
12. Jamie Osborne
13. Max O'Reilly
14. David Kearney
15. Jimmy O'Brien

16. James Tracy
17. Marcus Hanan
18. Greg McGrath
19. Devin Toner
20. Sean O'Brien
21. Paddy Patterson
22. Tim Corkery
23. Cian Kelleher

Don't know if Frawley or Hawkshaw will be available. I think centre partnerships in order of preference would be: 12. Frawley, 13. Osborne; 12. Hawkshaw, 13. Osborne; 12. Osborne, 13. O'Reilly. I think it's better JOB gets the minutes at 15 to get comfortable there because he'll likely be needed in that position.

If the rumours of Patterson getting a contract next season are true I think they should recall him from Munster and get him involved. There's little point in investing minutes in Rowan Osborne if he won't be here long term. Maybe once Leinster and Munster can't meet each other in the league or Heineken Cup they should facilitate an early swap of Osborne and McCarthy.

It'd be good to see O'Loughlin getting in some space on the wing. Seeing Baloucoune in full flight makes me wonder where ROL could have got to if they had backed him in his better (I think) position of left wing rather than poaching Lowe from the Chiefs with a big money offer. He got capped after just one season playing with the senior Leinster side. You wonder would a NZ franchise have backed a freshly-capped AB as first choice to see where he could get to.

I think if he was playing wing you'd be more likely to get runs like that try against Ulster out of him (2:11 mark in below video).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcrqveRblUU

bayern

Richie_Rich89 wrote: »

Is a Friday game? They're probably naming the team today if so. I think I would go with something like:

1. Peter Dooley
2. Dan Sheehan
3. Thomas Clarkson
4. Jack Dunne
5. Ross Molony
6. Josh Murphy
7. Scott Penny
8. Alexis Soroka
9. Luke McGrath
10. Harry Byrne
11. Rory O'Loughlin
12. Jamie Osborne
13. Max O'Reilly
14. David Kearney
15. Jimmy O'Brien

16. James Tracy
17. Marcus Hanan
18. Greg McGrath
19. Devin Toner
20. Sean O'Brien
21. Paddy Patterson
22. Tim Corkery
23. Cian Kelleher

Don't know if Frawley or Hawkshaw will be available. I think centre partnerships in order of preference would be: 12. Frawley, 13. Osborne; 12. Hawkshaw, 13. Osborne; 12. Osborne, 13. O'Reilly. I think it's better JOB gets the minutes at 15 to get comfortable there because he'll likely be needed in that position.

If the rumours of Patterson getting a contract next season are true I think they should recall him from Munster and get him involved. There's little point in investing minutes in Rowan Osborne if he won't be here long term. Maybe once Leinster and Munster can't meet each other in the league or Heineken Cup they should facilitate an early swap of Osborne and McCarthy.

It'd be good to see O'Loughlin getting in some space on the wing. Seeing Baloucoune in full flight makes me wonder where ROL could have got to if they had backed him in his better (I think) position of left wing rather than poaching Lowe from the Chiefs with a big money offer. He got capped after just one season playing with the senior Leinster side. You wonder would a NZ franchise have backed a freshly-capped AB as first choice to see where he could get to.

I think if he was playing wing you'd be more likely to get runs like that try against Ulster out of him (2:11 mark in below video).

listing a player who is training with Munster this week to bench for Leinster tomorrow is a bold move.

can't really argue on ROL maybe being a better wing than centre.. but he hasn't played there in quite some time so won't suddenly happen tomorrow.

crisco10

I think ROL has been struck down by the utility stick to an extent. He's a great man for the 23 jersey. It's also notable how his gametime tends to grow when there is an injury crisis and/or the games are coming thick and fast.

arsebiscuits1

:pac::pac::pac:

That's a good one Rich.

What evidence is there that MOR would play at 13?

He did fine at 15 and Jimmy did fine at 13 against a locked and loaded Ulster backline. I see no reason to switch them.

Also, if you play ROL at 12, you get a try like the one in the Thumbnail....

bayern

I'm optimistic Frawley will be named at 12.

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bayern

bayern

Tim Corkery(Kilkenny RFC) sub academy outhalf on bench.

bayern

Leinster Rugby (caps in brackets):

15. Max O’Reilly (5)
14. Cian Kelleher (24)
13. Jimmy O’Brien (31)
12. Rory O’Loughlin (77)
11. Dave Kearney (162)
10. Harry Byrne (20)
9. Luke McGrath (143) CAPTAIN
1. Peter Dooley (88)
2. Dan Sheehan (8)
3. Thomas Clarkson (8)
4. Ross Molony (109)
5. Jack Dunne (13)
6. Josh Murphy (43)
7. Scott Penny (23)
8. Alex Soroka (1)

16. James Tracy (123)
17. Marcus Hanan (1)
18. Michael Bent (153)
19. Devin Toner (259)
20. Seán O’Brien (0)
21. Hugh O’Sullivan (26)
22. Tim Corkery (0)
23. Jamie Osborne (4)

arsebiscuits1

Great to see Dunne get a start - only his second. First one coming in April 2019.

Average age in that pack must be the youngest we've ever put out ha.

Dooley - 26
Sheehan - 22
Clarkson - 21
Molony - 26
Dunne - 22
Murphy - 26
Penny - 21
Soroka - 20

Great to see lads get their chance. I say this will full respect to Zebre. But the minimum standard an academy player can have at any point of their tenure is to be able to line out against Zebre or Dragons. So it's good to see here.

bayern

arsebiscuits1 wrote: »

Great to see Dunne get a start - only his second. First one coming in April 2019.

Average age in that pack must be the youngest we've ever put out ha.

Dooley - 27
Sheehan - 22
Clarkson - 21
Molony - 26
Dunne - 22
Murphy - 26
Penny - 21
Soroka - 20

Great to see lads get their chance. I say this will full respect to Zebre. But the minimum standard an academy player can have at any point of their tenure is to be able to line out against Zebre or Dragons. So it's good to see here.

Dunne missed out on starts last season due to covid, same with Dan Sheehan IMO.

Shame Charlie Ryan is injured, he'd might have gotten a cap off the bench in this.

Good to see so many young lads get rewarded for lots of training and not much rugby with limited A rugby and no club rugby.

arsebiscuits1

bayern wrote: »

Dunne missed out on starts last season due to covid, same with Dan Sheehan IMO.

Shame Charlie Ryan is injured, he'd might have gotten a cap off the bench in this.

Absolutely.

Given Sheehan was promoted to the seniors without actually getting a Senior appearance I think it's a safe assumption they were hoping to get him decent game time at the tail end of last season if it progressed normally

Can anyone provide any info on SOB v348765438.0, Hanan or Corkery? Tbh, have not heard of them. Obviously good enough to make a 23 at this stage but any real prospects there?

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Suggested before?

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FrannoFan

Liv Prickly Millipede wrote: »

Can anyone provide any info on SOB v348765438.0, Hanan or Corkery? Tbh, have not heard of them. Obviously good enough to make a 23 at this stage but any real prospects there?

Sob another blackrock 8 who's coming through in a line of jordi, timmoney, Dorris

Corkery a young 10 from kilkenny. (Tector is another 10 coming up close behind)

Must love hardship

Liv Prickly Millipede wrote: »

Can anyone provide any info on SOB v348765438.0, Hanan or Corkery? Tbh, have not heard of them. Obviously good enough to make a 23 at this stage but any real prospects there?

I think all 3 were on the Irish u 20 6 nations Team last year. With o'brien playing 6 & 7 and Hanan starting loosehead. Won 3 from 3 and then it was shut down.
Corkery was behind Jack Crawley so didn't see a lot of game time but is underage again this year.

Squidgy Black

Liv Prickly Millipede wrote: »

Can anyone provide any info on SOB v348765438.0, Hanan or Corkery? Tbh, have not heard of them. Obviously good enough to make a 23 at this stage but any real prospects there?

SOB is a decent prospect, has really good handling skills and seems to be focusing on openside at the moment. Little bit on the shorter side similar to Penney, listed at 6 foot. Back row is ultra competitive as always so time will tell if he'll break through but he's only Year 1 academy so plenty of time, and I'm sure he'll get a fair few opportunities.

Corkery was behind Crowley for the Irish U20s so it's a bit harder to gauge how he'll go, he played well for UCD in the senior cup last year and his A game performances have been solid enough.

bayern

Squidgy Black wrote: »

SOB is a decent prospect, has really good handling skills and seems to be focusing on openside at the moment. Little bit on the shorter side similar to Penney, listed at 6 foot. Back row is ultra competitive as always so time will tell if he'll break through but he's only Year 1 academy so plenty of time, and I'm sure he'll get a fair few opportunities.

Corkery was behind Crowley for the Irish U20s so it's a bit harder to gauge how he'll go, he played well for UCD in the senior cup last year and his A game performances have been solid enough.

That listing is wrong SOB is 6'3 at least.

info on Corkery

Tim Corkery is rom Kilkenny RFC, he was starting outhalf of very talented u18 club side in 2018, but didn't make an irish u18 sides that season. He failed to make the Leinster u19 summer training squad after initial selection but was brought in as an alternative after injury ruled out an outhalf, he went on to be the starting outhalf for the leinster 19's in the interpros over highly rated schools outhalves, one of whom played for ireland u18. He played minor hurling for Kilkenny and went to St. Kierans College. He played towns cup for Kilkenny while still in school, starting at scrumhalf for the club before moving to UCD where he is currently on scholarship, having started games for them at 10 and 12.

He earned a sub-academy place after his time with the 19's and a Leinster 'A' appearance while still only 18, He made last season irish 20's a year young and was the bench outhalf in the three games they played. He faces strong competition for this seasons 20's 10 jersey but he would have to be favourite for it now. Finally he is very young for his age grade, not turning 20 until December.

bayern

FrannoFan wrote: »

Sob another blackrock 8 who's coming through in a line of jordi, timmoney, Dorris

Corkery a young 10 from kilkenny. (Tector is another 10 coming up close behind)

SOB never actually played 8 for Blackrock at SCT level.

Tector went to KK college, but is actually from Enniscorthy. Future academy 10.

bayern

Corkery is the starting 10 in this highlight package, Jamie Osborne the starting 15.

.ak

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That announced team is very green and raw! But, it's great to see. I think Zebre will push them a bit and it will stand to them. Having HB back is timely. I hope we win easy so Corkery gets his feet wet. O'Brien on the bench is grand also as he was a standout last year.
This time of year is honestly fantastic. Lots of new blood introduced. Having R.O.L and DK is brilliant too as the experienced lads offer leadership. Some of the players have really filled in brilliantly. I think Dooley, Kelleher and R.O.L have been the business. They have really stepped up.
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bayern wrote: »

Tim Corkery(Kilkenny RFC) sub academy outhalf on bench.

arsebiscuits will be saying the selectors have been taking psychedelic mushrooms.